BD 257 The Great Silence

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ChunkyLover
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BD 257 The Great Silence

#1 Post by ChunkyLover » Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:03 am

Cover and extras:

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SPECIAL FEATURES

Limited edition of 3000 units
Limited Edition O-Card slipcase
Limited Edition reversible poster featuring the film’s original artwork
Limited Edition set of 4 facsimile lobby cards
1080p presentation on Blu-ray from a 4K restoration undertaken and completed for the 50th anniversary of the film’s original release
English and Italian audio options
Optional English Subtitles
Brand new audio commentary by Western expert Howard Hughes
Brand new audio commentary by filmmaker Mike Siegel
Brand new interview with Austin Fisher, author of Radical Frontiers in the Spaghetti Western: Politics, Violence and Popular Italian Cinema
Cox on Corbucci – filmmaker Alex Cox talks about Sergio Corbucci [15 mins]
Audio commentary by director and Spaghetti Western aficionado Alex Cox, recorded live at the Hollywood Theatre, Portland in 2021
Western, Italian Style – 1968 documentary [38 mins]
Two Alternate Endings (both fully restored in 4K), with optional audio commentaries
Trailers
Stills Galleries
A collector’s booklet featuring new writing by Western expert Howard Hughes
All Extras Subject to Change

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Re: BD 257 The Great Silence

#2 Post by Banasa » Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:22 am

Seems to have the same "Cox on Corbucci" and "Western, Italian Style" doc that.

However, Eureka says there release is a 4K scan. Film Movement says there's was a 2K scan. Is it new?

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#3 Post by yoloswegmaster » Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:26 am

According to wiki, Cineteca Nazionale had authorized a 4K restoration on its 50th anniversary that was performed by Augustus Color and Studio Cine, while the Film Movement disc utilizes a 2K restoration that was done by Compass Film SRL.

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#4 Post by Finch » Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:14 pm

Slipcase cover should have been the amaray cover. Nice to see this getting a 4k restoration. Glad I didn't go for the Film Movement disc.

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#5 Post by rapta » Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:17 pm

Very, very happy with this release for many reasons. Firstly that they made it Masters of Cinema rather than Eureka Classics (well deserved, it's definitely one of the best non-Leone Spaghetti Westerns I've ever seen), and secondly they have not held back on the extras both on-disc and physical. Couldn't have asked for a better release in all honesty!

Really hope this leads to more Corbucci and/or Leone...if they can still get MGM titles as with The Sabata Trilogy, who knows, maybe they can do The Dollars Trilogy for MoC? Perhaps my favourite trilogy of all time, in fact.

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#6 Post by L.A. » Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:30 pm

All Extras Subject to Change
Hopefully not. [-o<

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#7 Post by black&huge » Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:53 pm

Finch wrote:
Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:14 pm
Glad I didn't go for the Film Movement disc.
Me too.

So this is likely region B locked? If so no matter. This is the release that's going to make me go looking for a region free player as soon as this weekend.

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Re: BD 257 The Great Silence

#8 Post by ChunkyLover » Thu Aug 26, 2021 4:11 pm

black&huge wrote:
Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:53 pm
So this is likely region B locked? If so no matter. This is the release that's going to make me go looking for a region free player as soon as this weekend.
It will be region B locked.

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#9 Post by moviesteve » Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:06 am

This press release

https://eurekavideo.co.uk/movie/the-gre ... d-edition/

says it's a 2K restoration, not 4K.

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#10 Post by rapta » Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:22 pm

moviesteve wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:06 am
This press release

https://eurekavideo.co.uk/movie/the-gre ... d-edition/

says it's a 2K restoration, not 4K.
They've since corrected it on all previous specs and trailers. It's the same master Film Movement used, I think.

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#11 Post by andyli » Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:56 pm

Weird situation. Website of Lumiere 2021 does point to a 4K restoration done by Studio Canal.

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#12 Post by L.A. » Mon Oct 11, 2021 12:36 pm

For the avoidance of any doubt, the forthcoming release of Sergio Corbucci’s THE GREAT SILENCE will be presented on Blu-ray for the first time in the UK from a **2K restoration** in a Limited Edition Set as part of The Masters of Cinema Series from 22 November.

The presentation will NOT be from a 4K restoration, as some previous posts on this page may have suggested. Apologies for any confusion or disappointment caused.

Available to PRE-ORDER now https://bit.ly/2Y40qxf

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#14 Post by ChunkyLover » Wed Nov 24, 2021 5:26 pm

FrauBlucher wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:39 pm
Bluray.com
I can't say I'm surprised that Svet didn't point out the odd technical glitches that users were reporting in the dedicated thread.

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#15 Post by Finch » Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:43 pm

Not that I want to defend him but the two glitches might not have been on the check disc. But his review is appalling as usual.

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#16 Post by EddieLarkin » Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:03 pm

He does for once pull the disc up on its supposedly terrible compression, which is an infinitely bigger issue than a couple of split second glitches.

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#17 Post by vsski » Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:39 pm

The compression is very disappointing and I assume that Eureka will not address this, as they could have told the lab to correct it after they saw it and before they move forward with the release, but didn’t and maybe couldn’t anymore.
I never completely understand why labels go along with this, and don’t step on labs’ toes as I feel the number of avoidable technical issues not to speak of the color “correction” is increasing - but maybe it’s always been that way and with improved technology becomes more noticeable.
I was really looking forward to this release - damn!

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#18 Post by ChunkyLover » Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:29 pm

I didn't look at caps when I posted my comment earlier but yikes. I figured that FiM would of handled this release as Eureka tends to use them nowadays for extras-heavy discs. I assume this was encoded by Eureka's go-to encoder for their MoC discs. The discs he's done are usually pretty solid ("High Noon", "Rio Grande", "The Incident" to name a few) but this looks "House of Bamboo" level bad ("Johnny Guitar" was another one he did and that one was pretty underwhelming).

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#19 Post by swo17 » Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:40 am

So is this supposed to be a downgrade from the Film Movement disc, or are they about level? I've heard that release could be better too. This film was poorly served on DVD as well

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#20 Post by tenia » Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:23 am

ChunkyLover wrote:I didn't look at caps when I posted my comment earlier but yikes. I figured that FiM would of handled this release as Eureka tends to use them nowadays for extras-heavy discs. I assume this was encoded by Eureka's go-to encoder for their MoC discs. The discs he's done are usually pretty solid ("High Noon", "Rio Grande", "The Incident" to name a few) but this looks "House of Bamboo" level bad ("Johnny Guitar" was another one he did and that one was pretty underwhelming).
It's been quite some time since FiM aren't handling all Eureka's release (I don't think they ever did, though), and it's very likely the titles you're mentioning were encoded elsewhere.

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#21 Post by M Sanderson » Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:37 pm

This has really put me off buying the film. Was all set, as well.

Shocking how far it dropped on b-rdotcom’s ratings, from the US to the U.K. releases. Although that site do seem motivated by bringing up some company’s average scores while lowering others’, this release still doesn’t sound too encouraging.

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#22 Post by Orlac » Thu Nov 25, 2021 8:50 pm

Eureka is not fixing the glitches.

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#23 Post by ChunkyLover » Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:53 pm


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#24 Post by EddieLarkin » Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:26 pm

swo17 wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:40 am
So is this supposed to be a downgrade from the Film Movement disc, or are they about level? I've heard that release could be better too. This film was poorly served on DVD as well
Going by the caps above, the Eureka is much better than the FM disc owing to it using an improved version of the master. The FM disc also looks like it's a total botch job compression wise anyway, so whilst it's sad the Eureka isn't perfect, it's obviously the best release on the market.

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#25 Post by Finch » Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:12 pm

I prefer the colors on the Eureka but the contrast is too strong and detail gets lost in the blacks. Look at cap 11 for example and flick back and forth between the two. On the FM, you can make out the pattern on the black blanket under her arm but on the MoC it's gone. For all I know that may be inherent in the materials Eureka got but on balance, I find the MoC somewhat better visually and for me, the extras would swing it for MoC overall.

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