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Re: Michael Mann

#201 Post by L.A. » Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:07 am

The soundtrack for Manhunter is fantastic. I bought the CD which was issued on this format for the first time in 2010 with an extra track "Jogger's Stakeout" by The Reds, seems very hard to find now. Shriekback’s ”This Big Hush” is a great tune (I understand Mann was a big fan of the band), not to forget ”Graham’s Theme”. Unfortunately this is still not the complete soundtrack.

Doing some research another CD came out as well labeled Special Limited Fanclub Edition including all the songs heard in the film.

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#202 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Tue Dec 31, 2019 12:24 pm

Sounds like it was a bootleg but I'll be happy to be wrong. All of Mann's soundtracks are frustratingly incomplete.

A vinyl version was released, featuring two tracks including "Seiun / Hikari No Sono" by Kitaro which is featured very prominently when we first see Will Graham and his family.
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Re: Michael Mann

#203 Post by L.A. » Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:46 pm

According to this The Keep DVD coming from Vision Entertainment in Australia.

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#204 Post by Orlac » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:18 pm

I wonder how old the transfer will be. Last time I saw it on UK TV, the transfer looked very laserdiscy.

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#205 Post by beamish14 » Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:09 pm

It amazes me how Mann, who doesn't have an office at Paramount, can still get them to suppress this film in the States. Paramount won't even loan out 35mm prints of The Keep-if you want it in celluloid, you have to borrow the BFI's copy, which has a lot of sprocket damage on the first two reels that causes a lot of buzzing.

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#206 Post by Orlac » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:59 am

Maybe Wilson DOES have a curse on him...

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#207 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:09 pm

I heard that Paramount hasn't kept the best care of their prints. Peter Segal said when he was looking for prints of Tommy Boy recently, the one Tarantino had a personal copy of was better than the one in their vault. And that movie was a hit.

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#208 Post by Orlac » Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:14 pm

Paramount always seemed non-commital to their back catalogue.

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#209 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:05 am

Looks like Collateral is getting a 4K UHD release this year, in line with all of the other Tom Cruise catalog titles coming out this year

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Re: Michael Mann

#210 Post by Ribs » Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:51 am

The first studio movie that was shot entirely digitally at 1080p - which should make how much better it can look an interesting test case...

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#211 Post by Oedipax » Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:28 pm

Ribs wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:51 am
The first studio movie that was shot entirely digitally at 1080p - which should make how much better it can look an interesting test case...
Not entirely, but very close to it. According to the American Cinematographer article about Collateral, the night club sequence was shot on 35mm, so if nothing else, that section should improve at 4K. I would guess the HD stuff will look a little bit better too, with better color fidelity and less (added) compression.

As an aside, I was under the impression that Miami Vice was 100% digital, but that too had a couple shots made on film to counter extreme contrast/backlighting in some locations.

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Re: Michael Mann

#212 Post by L.A. » Tue May 12, 2020 8:32 am

L.A. wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:46 pm
According to this The Keep DVD coming from Vision Entertainment in Australia.
DVDFreak.

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Re: Michael Mann

#213 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Sun May 17, 2020 1:11 pm

Michael on his Corona routine
Oedipax wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:28 pm
Ribs wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:51 am
The first studio movie that was shot entirely digitally at 1080p - which should make how much better it can look an interesting test case...
Not entirely, but very close to it. According to the American Cinematographer article about Collateral, the night club sequence was shot on 35mm, so if nothing else, that section should improve at 4K. I would guess the HD stuff will look a little bit better too, with better color fidelity and less (added) compression.

As an aside, I was under the impression that Miami Vice was 100% digital, but that too had a couple shots made on film to counter extreme contrast/backlighting in some locations.
There's a funny easter egg on the Collateral DVD where it shows one of the 35mm cameras jamming up.

Public Enemies was the first to be entirely shot digitally, a decision in retrospect he isn't so keen on or so I've heard in interviews.

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Re: Michael Mann

#214 Post by hearthesilence » Sun May 17, 2020 3:05 pm

flyonthewall2983 wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 1:11 pm
Public Enemies was the first to be entirely shot digitally, a decision in retrospect he isn't so keen on or so I've heard in interviews.
The logic behind the concept is pretty simple - imagine if you can look at that era as if it could be captured visually the way everything is today - but for a variety of reasons it felt like a terribly misguided idea, and the results speak for themselves. It simply looked like shit.

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#215 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Sun May 17, 2020 5:26 pm

In a weird way it reflects certain dilemmas the main characters face regarding progress and innovation in their own fields. The way Hoover was leading the FBI is increasingly isolating Melvin Purvis, and Dillinger is being left twisting in the wind by organized crime when new technology comes along, and disregarding their need for outlaws.


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#217 Post by bluesforyou » Sun Sep 06, 2020 10:21 pm

I thought this would never see the light of day after the Mangold went ahead but that is good news. I do wonder if the masses will come out to watch another Ferrari film (although the Mangold is a more a Ford film) after having seen one so recently.

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#218 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:44 pm

It sounds like Amazon could be involved, so it could (at least in the US) wind up going straight to Prime Video. Too early to tell, but hopefully by the time it's released the current theatrical situation will be relieved.

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#219 Post by Always Points North » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:51 am

beamish14 wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:09 pm
It amazes me how Mann, who doesn't have an office at Paramount, can still get them to suppress this film in the States. Paramount won't even loan out 35mm prints of The Keep-if you want it in celluloid, you have to borrow the BFI's copy, which has a lot of sprocket damage on the first two reels that causes a lot of buzzing.
It's a real shame about the issues with The Keep — the sound mainly as far as I recall. In any case I particularly enjoyed Jürgen Prochnow's performance and, at the time, I was just realizing how many film scores Tangerine Dream had notched up. Sorcerer being another one I saw about 5 years ago at the same time. I much prefer their score for Legend as I think it fits the film better than Jerry Goldsmith's, which is great but too classical.

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#220 Post by colinr0380 » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:35 am

Always Points North wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:51 am
...and, at the time, I was just realizing how many film scores Tangerine Dream had notched up. Sorcerer being another one I saw about 5 years ago at the same time. I much prefer their score for Legend as I think it fits the film better than Jerry Goldsmith's, which is great but too classical.
It was great to get introduced to their title track for the 1985 Street Hawk show recently too! The show itself looks terribly cheesy but that's another wonderful Tangerine Dream track ("Le Parc")
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Re: Michael Mann

#221 Post by beamish14 » Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:48 am

Tangerine Dream's score for The Keep is soon to be readily available

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#222 Post by Always Points North » Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:10 pm

colinr0380 wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:35 am
It was great to recently get introduced to their title track for the 1985 Street Hawk show recently too! The show itself looks terribly cheesy but that's another wonderful Tangerine Dream track ("Le Parc")
Funnily enough they ran Street Hawk again recently here in the UK and I watched most of it — not sure the Pilot was shown though. The funniest part had to be George Clooney, just on every level :lol: . Same again, I didn't know that Tangerine Dream had done the music for this show and I liked it because it felt very different to other shows that were around at the time that are more fresh in my memory. Another very interesting thing was that Rex Smith was the original Daredevil, in The Trial of the Incredible Hulk.
beamish14 wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:48 am
Tangerine Dream's score for The Keep is soon to be readily available
That's good to know.

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#223 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:12 am

beamish14 wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:48 am
Tangerine Dream's score for The Keep is soon to be readily available
I don't think it is explicitly mentioned, but I think it will be exclusive to the box set and not released separately on CD and digital like some of the others are from this.

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