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Re: 300-311 Columbia Noir #1 and #2

#51 Post by MichaelB » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:07 am

Bumped to mark the announcement of Columbia Noir #2, to be released on 15 February 2021 - I've added artwork and specs to the first post in this thread.

Pre-order here.

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Re: 300-311 Columbia Noir #1 and #2

#52 Post by KJones77 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:20 am

Another awesome set that is a day 1 pre-order. Murder by Contract is excellent and I'm a fan of The Mob too.

Affair in Trinidad was a little underwhelming but Ford + Hayworth is a winning combo. Tight Spot is at least alright.

Excited to see Framed and 711 Ocean Drive!

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Re: 300-311 Columbia Noir #1 and #2

#53 Post by Calvin » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:52 am

Looks like another sensational set. Particularly excited to upgrade Murder By Contract and it's great to see Swedes in America on there. Hopefully the 'more extras to be announced' will include more Lerner shorts, I'd particularly like to see A Place to Live and Muscle Beach make it on there.

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Re: 300-311 Columbia Noir #1 and #2

#54 Post by swo17 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:20 pm

For those with the Columbia DVD sets, here are the redundancies currently filled by UK boutiques:

I
The Sniper
The Big Heat (Indicator)
5 Against the House (Indicator)
The Lineup (Indicator)
Murder by Contract (Indicator)

II
Human Desire (MoC)
Pushover
The Brothers Rico
Nightfall (Arrow)
City of Fear

III
My Name Is Julia Ross (Arrow)
The Mob (Indicator)
Drive a Crooked Road (Indicator)
Tight Spot (Indicator)
The Burglar

IV
So Dark the Night (Arrow)
Johnny O'Clock
Walk a Crooked Mile
Between Midnight and Dawn
Walk East on Beacon

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Re: 300-311 Columbia Noir #1 and #2

#55 Post by Ribs » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:14 pm

Love Indicator throwing these Three Stooges shorts on top of mostly unrelated sets - it’s kind of wonderful that they’ll have put out 14 shorts this way, and it seems likely to continue into further volumes too.

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Re: 300-311 Columbia Noir #1 and #2

#56 Post by swo17 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:18 pm

Where else are they besides Mad Magician?

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Re: 300-311 Columbia Noir #1 and #2

#57 Post by Boosmahn » Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:01 am

They're just in the Columbia Noir box-sets (6 per set) and The Mad Magician (2) so far.

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Re: 300-311 Columbia Noir #1 and #2

#58 Post by MichaelB » Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:31 am

When the first Columbia Noir set was announced, I created a separate Three Stooges section in the Indicator Thread Index, because I knew that more were on the way and there was a real risk of the Supporting Films section getting overrun by the Stooges.

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Re: 300-311 Columbia Noir #1 and #2

#59 Post by swo17 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:25 am

Thank you for keeping that index up-to-date!

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#60 Post by MichaelB » Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:27 am

No problem! I do it within minutes of each announcement as a regular monthly routine.

Same goes for the Region B list, which is especially important as it ensures complete accuracy.

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Re: 300-311 Columbia Noir #1 and #2

#61 Post by rapta » Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:00 pm

swo17 wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:20 pm
For those with the Columbia DVD sets, here are the redundancies currently filled by UK boutiques:

I
The Sniper
The Big Heat (Indicator)
5 Against the House (Indicator)
The Lineup (Indicator)
Murder by Contract (Indicator)

II
Human Desire (MoC)
Pushover
The Brothers Rico
Nightfall (Arrow)
City of Fear

III
My Name Is Julia Ross (Arrow)
The Mob (Indicator)
Drive a Crooked Road (Indicator)
Tight Spot (Indicator)
The Burglar

IV
So Dark the Night (Arrow)
Johnny O'Clock
Walk a Crooked Mile
Between Midnight and Dawn
Walk East on Beacon
I'd be very happy with any of those, especially The Sniper and The Brothers Rico. I guess Indicator might add another three to make two more volumes; I figured elsewhere that they could do a Bogart-themed set at some point, but that'd only be five films (Dead Reckoning, Knock on Any Door, Tokyo Joe, Sirocco, The Harder They Fall).

They've already confirmed Between Midnight and Dawn specifically, and essentially confirmed The Sniper (Dmytryk), Knock on Any Door (Ray) and Johnny O'Clock (Rossen), so that could cover four of the films in the next volume (or at least three if my Bogie theory did turn out to be correct).

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Re: 300-311 Columbia Noir #1 and #2

#62 Post by KJones77 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:53 pm

They've had a pretty good overlap with those Kit Parker sets and even the Columbia Noir feature on the Criterion Channel, too, so I wouldn't be surprised to see titles like Pushover, Fortune Is a Woman/She Played with Fire, and The Long Haul pop up on future sets as well (those last two being on the Kit Parker sets & British too, so would be shocked if they aren't on Indicator's radar). I'd love some of the western noir hybrids Columbia put out at this time to find a spot in a set too, especially The Violent Men.

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Re: 300-311 Columbia Noir #1 and #2

#63 Post by MichaelB » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:25 pm

A typically massive review of Columbia Noir #1 from CineOutsider.

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Re: 300-311 Columbia Noir #1 and #2

#64 Post by therewillbeblus » Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:36 pm

Caught up with The Garment Jungle and was surprised by how much I liked it. I'm often wary of sociopolitical message movies, but Sherman and his crew give this one a grisly edge that soaks up visual details like a sponge and sticks our face in violence with equal measure as rhetorical philosophical and psychological questions. The thematic explorations certainly find comfort in devolved moral spaces, but there are also plenty of opportunities to hold conflicting rationales: self-preservation and fear vs. acting heroically and for a cause; looking the other way to provide for 'me and mine' vs. examining the rippling consequences on the bigger picture. Cobb isn't shamed until he has all the info and the push to see it, and I admire that attitude of social responsibility stemming from the progressive groups' tactics at inspiring, as well as the conservative traditonalists to make the ethical change, rather than a 'Shoulda' finger-wag in one direction. Even when the narrative beats hit expected routes, the process is executed with precision, and I found myself totally invested in typically throwaway suspenseful moments like running up stairs to make sure a child is okay, or a meager glance out the window at the bad guys, or of an object dropping from a skyscraper. The film can't rise too far above its limited-ranged source material, but it's immaculately shot and spliced together and tries its darnedest.

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Re: 300-311 Columbia Noir #1 and #2

#65 Post by Boosmahn » Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:29 pm

The Powerhouse listing for the second set has been updated, with two new extras added: Ernest Borgnine in Conversation for The Mob and The Senate Crime Investigations for Tight Spot.

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Re: 300-311 Columbia Noir #1 and #2

#66 Post by MichaelB » Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:29 pm

Final specs for volume 2:

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Framed (1947):

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711 Ocean Drive (1950):

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The Mob (1951):

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Affair in Trinidad (1952):

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Tight Spot (1955):

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Murder by Contract (1958):

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Re: 300-311 Columbia Noir #1 and #2

#67 Post by domino harvey » Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:48 pm

Lots of cool shorts in this set, and also the Three Stooges. I assume/hope Sony just threw the latter in for free or next to nothing?

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Re: 300-311 Columbia Noir #1 and #2

#68 Post by tenia » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:54 pm

Maybe it's because we're now in 2020, I'm not used to their humor and/or it's a cultural thing, but I watched all 6 vol. 1 Stooges shorts and god I couldn't bear them. It sure looked fun to subtitle though, but while it was interesting to see how they were tied in to the movies they were included with, I found their jokes unsufferable (and soooooo quickly dumbingly repetitive).

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Re: 300-311 Columbia Noir #1 and #2

#69 Post by Boosmahn » Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:28 am

I'm so thankful to Indicator for this project. I've only seen a handful of film noirs, most of which are considered to be the best, so I don't have a firm grasp on the genre. These films seem more indicative of it as a whole. I wonder how many volumes the project will be? I've seen some announcements say it "will comprise multiple releases across numerous volumes over the coming years," which I assume is from Indicator's newsletter.

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Re: 300-311 Columbia Noir #1 and #2

#70 Post by MichaelB » Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:05 am

Since only one of the titles they teased at the time of #1's announcement ended up in #2 (Murder by Contract), I don't think I'd be breaking any confidences to confirm that #3 is definitely on the horizon.

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Re: 300-311 Columbia Noir #1 and #2

#71 Post by yoloswegmaster » Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:06 am

MichaelB wrote:
Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:05 am
Since only one of the titles they teased at the time of #1's announcement ended up in #2 (Murder by Contract), I don't think I'd be breaking any confidences to confirm that #3 is definitely on the horizon.
According to someone on blu forum, you apparently also confirmed that Johnny O'Clock was going to appear in the 3rd set

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Re: 300-311 Columbia Noir #1 and #2

#72 Post by MichaelB » Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:31 am

Unsurprisingly, that's a distortion of what I actually said.

It's certainly reasonable to infer that Johnny O'Clock is an upcoming title (Indicator has already confirmed a Robert Rossen title, it's clearly got to be either made for or distributed by Columbia, it can't be Lilith because that's already out on Indicator, and it's unlikely to be All the King's Men, The Brave Bulls or They Came to Cordura), but I never explicitly linked it to Volume 3 or indeed said anything that wasn't already in the public domain.

This is why I wish people wouldn't just lift stuff from one forum (and a private one in this case) and post it in another without checking upfront with me first. I don't mind other people posting potentially inaccurate rumours off their own bat (not least because the wilder ones are often so entertaining), but I'd appreciate it if they didn't attach my name to them.

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Re: 300-311 Columbia Noir #1 and #2

#73 Post by Aspect » Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:39 am

I apologize if I missed it elsewhere, but is there a reason these Columbia titles are region-locked? Just curious because other Indicator Columbia titles have been region-free, right? Thanks in advance for any insight.

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Re: 300-311 Columbia Noir #1 and #2

#74 Post by MichaelB » Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:55 am

Sony now requires everything to be region-locked, whereas they didn't before. The changeover was roughly a year ago, although the edges are a bit blurred because older region-free licenses like Hammer Volume 4 had their releases delayed, and the mostly region-locked John Ford box has a region-free title on account of Gideon's Day being licensed earlier with a separate release in mind.

There will still be some region-free releases going forward - in fact, I believe this is true of half of April's slate - but although Indicator's policy on this hasn't changed since the label was founded, it's ultimately not their call. Or rather, they could exclusively license titles whose rightsholders are willing to let them be region-free, but this would so drastically change the label's entire image (for starters, it would spell the end of all major studio licenses, including British majors repped by StudioCanal) that it's not a path worth going down.

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Re: 300-311 Columbia Noir #1 and #2

#75 Post by Aspect » Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:15 pm

Thanks for the thorough information (as always), MichaelB. Makes sense. Sony’s previous policy was nice while it lasted.

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