One big problem I have with it is that when you put VO on a movie you're sort of implying that the movie is being narrated by the VO character. But Blade Runner is decidedly not only from Deckard's perspective; he isn't even a part of the opening scene, but then he shows up narrating right after it. Obviously it's a different matter when you have multiple narrators, but of course that's not the case here.djproject wrote:When I first heard the initial VO attempts - and there was a bit of it still toward the end after Batty's death - I maintained that that was the correct way if VO was going to be used. The big problem I have with the VO they ended up using for the initial 1982 theatrical release is that it belongs not only in another movie but for another character. The VO sounds way too confident and too cocky* and there's nothing really in the film that justifies Deckard sounding like that, even Deckard biting back at Bryan or him bluntly telling Rachel she's really a replicant. Then there's the final VO for Batty's death, which sounds *way* too OTN (Frank Darabont described it best). This also indicates that the VO was initially thought of as fulfilling stylistic convention rather than serving another purpose (Scott's initial frustration with it; Ford's disgust of it).
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I read that the soundtrack wasn't released along with the film, because it didn't fit some of those stylistic conventions. That's surprising considering it's Vangelis, who was just coming off Chariots of Fire which was big for him and also a Warner Brothers movie. But one wouldn't come out until the '92 DC.
For what it's worth, The New American Orchestra release is good, but quite the curiosity. It came out a year later I believe, so it wasn't really meant to promote it properly.
For what it's worth, The New American Orchestra release is good, but quite the curiosity. It came out a year later I believe, so it wasn't really meant to promote it properly.
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Happy incept date.
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Is it true that there were no prints struck of the final cut release? That it was only shown digitally?
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I don't think so. I'm pretty sure - about 85% so - that I saw a 35mm print in Dallas in 2007. I don't believe the Inwood had digital projection yet back then.
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I saw the final cut in 35mm in 2007, and again in a now-weathered 35mm print just last year.
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I think "Final Cut" negatives were scanned at 4K, but was the DI finished at 4K or 2K? I guess one advantage of optical and in-camera VFX is that, at least in theory, they would transfer over with a 4K DI, unlike most of the digital VFX done nowadays, which have been rendered at 2K originally, and would need to be re-rendered at 4K for a true 4K restoration.
"Final Cut" looks amazing at 1080p, that's for sure.
"Final Cut" looks amazing at 1080p, that's for sure.
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I prefer the "Final Cut". I'd only seen the '92 cut just the year before so I didn't have the long-term attachment some here do which is understandable. I've not really ever been too tempted to look at the other cuts. I'm not a big fan of seeing multiple cuts of the same movie, I'd much rather see the extra footage as deleted scenes.
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Thank you. Someone in the Facebook thread insisted there were no prints of the Final Cut, just digital projection, which sounded absurd for 2007. I'll happily hold out and wait for it to come around!solaris72 wrote:I saw the final cut in 35mm in 2007, and again in a now-weathered 35mm print just last year.
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I don't like the ridiculous teal tint that Scott put on the Final cut. It totally ruins the gorgeous golden look to some of the scenes in the film (e.g. the scenes with Rachael in the Tyrell building at sunset) and generally de-saturates and dampens the colorful and rich palette that was originally there. I'd much rather watch the Director's Cut or even one of the original Theatical cuts, "happy" ending and all. I was lucky enough to see a good 35mm print of the International Theatrical cut in Dec 2014 and it looked fantastic. I actually kind of like the original ending in a weird way, if only for the beauty of the footage -- it's not that much weaker than the ending of the Director's or Final cuts, which always seemed too abrupt to me. But the main flaw of the Theatrical versions is simply the unnecessary and lifeless narration from Ford.
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This is a very informative, 3+ hour-long podcast about Blade Runner from the Projection Booth. Even for those with significant knowledge about the picture, you will likely still get something out of it.
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Thanks for the shout out!
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The first time I saw Blade Runner was some years ago, back in the mid-2000's. I was a high school teenager back then, and the film caught my attention for some reason, maybe it was the amazing visuals for its time, maybe I thought the concept was interesting or the characters, but I decided one Saturday to rent it and watch it that night.
The first time I saw it, there were some things I didn't understand, and it didn't really excite me or made me feel anything too deep, so back then, it wasn't my favorite, though I still kind of liked it due to its very sci-fi and even mystical feel to it.
I re-watched it again some years later, and it finally grew on me, to the point that I understood it better and liked it even more.
I think my favorite scene and the one that makes me feel some emotion from the movie is the "Like tears in rain" scene.
Not sure if I should post the SPOILER warning at this point, but just the way Roy Batty jumped over the building with ease and decided to save Deckard, the final speech Roy gave him, the music playing in the scene and the way he finally accepted death, it kind of speaks to me.
Over time, it has become a special scene to me.
The first time I saw it, there were some things I didn't understand, and it didn't really excite me or made me feel anything too deep, so back then, it wasn't my favorite, though I still kind of liked it due to its very sci-fi and even mystical feel to it.
I re-watched it again some years later, and it finally grew on me, to the point that I understood it better and liked it even more.
I think my favorite scene and the one that makes me feel some emotion from the movie is the "Like tears in rain" scene.
Not sure if I should post the SPOILER warning at this point, but just the way Roy Batty jumped over the building with ease and decided to save Deckard, the final speech Roy gave him, the music playing in the scene and the way he finally accepted death, it kind of speaks to me.
Over time, it has become a special scene to me.
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Happy Leon incept date
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Bill Hunt at thedigitalbits.com wrote that he heard from several sources that this will be released on 4K UHD by the end of the year, likely coinciding with the release of 2049
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Does anyone know why The Final Cut didn't get a larger theatrical release? One at the time, on the level of something like the one Apocalypse Now Redux did several years earlier, could have been a good gauge for Warner Brothers if a sequel is something that could have been warranted.
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Paul Sammon's making-of book Future Noir, which was recently re-released in time with 2049, is on sale on Kindle for 1.99
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I wonder how different Deckard winds up if Dustin Hoffman played the role. I wonder if he would have rejected the notion of him being a Replicant the same as Ford has.