Killers of the Flower Moon (Martin Scorsese, 2023)

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Re: Killers of the Flower Moon (Martin Scorsese, 2021)

#51 Post by Never Cursed » Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:53 pm

In a move that would surely leave Cassavetes absolutely embarrassed, if not furious, this will indeed be budgeted to the tune of $200 million, and will tentatively start shooting in February of next year

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#52 Post by knives » Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:58 pm

I didn't know Cassevetes was against having a budget. That's definitely new information.

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#53 Post by Never Cursed » Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:59 pm

Check the first few posts on the previous page of this thread

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#54 Post by knives » Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:02 pm

I was involved with them so I know what they say. Still an absurd on its face argument placing words into someone's mouth who never would have said them.

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#55 Post by The Narrator Returns » Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:03 pm

Cassavetes would be made absolutely embarrassed, if not furious, by this because he was noteworthy for hating both flowers and moons.

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#56 Post by knives » Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:06 pm

In that case shouldn't he love a killer? My point proven. :D

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#57 Post by therewillbeblus » Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:17 pm

knives wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:02 pm
I was involved with them so I know what they say. Still an absurd on its face argument placing words into someone's mouth who never would have said them.
I took Never Cursed's post as a joke in parroting a post doing just that verbatim, so the opposite of supporting this "on its face" argument and highlighting your very point

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#58 Post by domino harvey » Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:23 pm

I’m sure Cassavetes is down in Hell having a good laff about all of this

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#59 Post by knives » Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:25 pm

therewillbeblus wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:17 pm
knives wrote: I was involved with them so I know what they say. Still an absurd on its face argument placing words into someone's mouth who never would have said them.
I took Never Cursed's post as a joke in parroting a post doing just that verbatim, so the opposite of supporting this "on its face" argument and highlighting your very point
One of those no difference possible with a parody situations then with accompanying apologies.

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#60 Post by Never Cursed » Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:28 pm

therewillbeblus wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:17 pm
knives wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:02 pm
I was involved with them so I know what they say. Still an absurd on its face argument placing words into someone's mouth who never would have said them.
I took Never Cursed's post as a joke in parroting a post doing just that verbatim, so the opposite of supporting this "on its face" argument and highlighting your very point
I was indeed doing this

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Re: Killers of the Flower Moon (Martin Scorsese, 2021)

#61 Post by therewillbeblus » Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:29 pm

domino harvey wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:23 pm
I’m sure Cassavetes is down in Hell having a good laff about all of this
Cassavetes has a sense of humor?

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#62 Post by domino harvey » Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:33 pm

Of course he did! People always forget that the second Z in ZAZ stood for Cassavetes

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#63 Post by Persona » Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:10 pm

Sounds like Leo has been fighting the good fight on this one based on the articles on Deadline, Collider, and Indiewire about his arguments with Eric Roth on the screenplay. I am assuming Scorsese has the final say on what Eric does and doesn't have to change in the script.

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#64 Post by hearthesilence » Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:29 pm

Persona wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:10 pm
Sounds like Leo has been fighting the good fight on this one based on the articles on Deadline, Collider, and Indiewire about his arguments with Eric Roth on the screenplay. I am assuming Scorsese has the final say on what Eric does and doesn't have to change in the script.
Metro.co.uk mistakenly identifies the writer multiple times as Eli Roth in their report. Imagine that movie.

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#65 Post by Persona » Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:11 pm

Reading the book, which is all kinds of excellent, and in my opinion it's not difficult to see why this is so expensive. The massive cast and Scorsese-level art direction for a period piece with this kind of scope... those two elements alone are gonna cost a ton.

I am thrilled Leo is playing Ernest Burkhart. That is going to be so much more interesting than him playing Tom White, who I imagine they will now try to get another big name for that role. But I think this cast is going to be stacked.

There will need to be a lot of Native American casting and I hope they handle that well. Mollie Burkhart is going to be a major character and sadly the only casting popping to my mind as perfect for it is Q'orianka Kilcher.

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#66 Post by Persona » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:15 pm

Wondering if Scorsese might reunite with McConaughey for the Tom White role. A 40-something Texas Ranger turned dutiful FBI operative? He'd almost be too perfect for that.



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#69 Post by domino harvey » Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:00 pm

Nice. She was easily the best thing about Reichardt’s movie. Also, I don’t think I’d heard Apple had picked this up

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#70 Post by allyouzombies » Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:55 pm

It's been a while since I read the book, but I believe Mollie Burkhart was in many ways the protagonist of the story.

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#71 Post by DandyDancing » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:08 pm

Didn't Apple sign a deal with Scorsese's production company?

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#72 Post by Persona » Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:09 pm

allyouzombies wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:55 pm
It's been a while since I read the book, but I believe Mollie Burkhart was in many ways the protagonist of the story.
She is pretty central in the first section. Not as present during the section about the FBI investigation but has some key moments at the end of that part.

Will be interesting to see how the movie treats the character. Gladstone is excellent casting for it and somehow completely escaped my mind as a possibility.

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Re: Killers of the Flower Moon (Martin Scorsese, 2021)

#73 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian » Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:15 pm

DandyDancing wrote:
Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:08 pm
Didn't Apple sign a deal with Scorsese's production company?
They signed a first-look deal last August, a few months after Apple grabbed this from Paramount. Paramount wanted to go back to the Eric Roth draft and also got antsy about the budget, but they'll still be distributing it theatrically.

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#74 Post by TheKieslowskiHaze » Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:14 pm

If there is one downside to First Cow (and that's a big if), it's that Gladstone's tiny role felt like a tease. She's too brilliant. I've wanted to see more of her since Certain Women, and I'm really happy to hear this news.

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Re: Killers of the Flower Moon (Martin Scorsese, 2021)

#75 Post by Big Ben » Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:35 pm

Lily is from Montana and her father Jack is a famous musician here. I've met him personally and was in a music video he made when I was younger. It should be interesting to see what kind of discussions this brings about Native Americans around the time of release. Looking forward to seeing Lily in this!

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