Certainly helps that life expectancy in 2019 is not 35 years old, provided this is a modern adaptation
The Tragedy of Macbeth (Joel Coen, 2021)
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Re: Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
Boo to your opinion good sir.
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Re: Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
No, that's not what I meant, and I see Domino said so himself too. We already have enough Macbeth, Hamlet, Romeo & Juliet, The Tempest, Othello and maybe even King Lear. I'm no Shakespeare expert, but it would be nice seeing some less known work being adapted.
I actually like True Grit, but The Ladykillers is awful and their worst film, irregardless of how much I love the original. Hanks aside it gets nothing right, even moreso when compared to McKendrick's original.
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Re: Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
The Coens’ True Grit is much better than the original film.
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Re: Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
Just as I loved John Wayne in True Grit, I think Orson Welles is a hell of a Macbeth, but both of those movies are quite flat on whole and that’s where Coen magic steps in. They know how to tell a story and how to build up characters. I really can’t remember that many Shakespeare adaptations that aren’t just a bunch of scenes stiched together with nice production values. Macbeth deserves better, because the character is all about living a charmed life with lurking sense of doom and how that combination is making him insane. Such a macabre consept should not be handled as one note as the 2015 adaptation. It deserves a Coen treatment.
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Re: Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
Have you watched any of Kuosawa's Shakespearian films? The only certified adaptation is Throne of Blood, but The Bad Sleep Well and Ran are brilliant as well.Slaphappy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:14 amJust as I loved John Wayne in True Grit, I think Orson Welles is a hell of a Macbeth, but both of those movies are quite flat on whole and that’s where Coen magic steps in. They know how to tell a story and how to build up characters. I really can’t remember that many Shakespeare adaptations that aren’t just a bunch of scenes stiched together with nice production values. Macbeth deserves better, because the character is all about living a charmed life with lurking sense of doom and how that combination is making him insane. Such a macabre consept should not be handled as one note as the 2015 adaptation. It deserves a Coen treatment.
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I’ve seen Ran and it was very artsy. I really should give Throne of Blood a chance even though I’m usually bored by samurai movies which involve clan intrugue.
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Re: Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
That's really surprising; I had assumed this would be a looser adaptation, somewhere between the play itself and what they did with O Brother, Where Art Thou?.Joel Coen wrote:I use the language of Shakespeare. I didn’t fuss around or change any of that. The only thing I did, as is common in these adaptations, some more of less, there’s a certain amount of editing. But I would say the movie is about 85% of the language in the play. There’s about 15% which has been cut.
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Re: The Tragedy of Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
Worth noting that Macbeth is one of Shakespeare’s shortest plays, so retaining 85% of the material will prob still make for a non-epic length adaptation
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Re: Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
It sounds like it will be pretty "period" authentic, too, taking place in the 12th century. So for better or worse it won't be Americanized or modernized. (I guess we already have the Coen-inspired Scotland, PA for that anyway.)DarkImbecile wrote: ↑Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:27 pmI had assumed this would be a looser adaptation, somewhere between the play itself and what they did with O Brother, Where Art Thou?.
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Re: The Tragedy of Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
This wrapped in August under strict COVID-related production protocols. The detailed description of these protocols is interesting, but of particular note at the bottom of the article is the information that the same unit manager will be working on Damien Chazelle's Babylon, set to film at the start of next year
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Re: The Tragedy of Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
I completely understand that is necessary, but that is insane. The people I know in the film industry (granted on a much smaller scale) and fashion photography have reported similar situations on their sets as well. It really makes for a tense set that creates a slog of a day.
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With smaller productions (i.e. less people) that have maybe a month left of shooting with their full crew, I think I can understand the gamble of resuming production, especially if they're very strict about sticking to stringent guidelines (as they did on Macbeth - dismissing those who refused to wear masks pretty much set the tone), but until a vaccine's available, personally I think it's too much of a gamble to start up a much larger and longer production from scratch, and that seems to be happening all over the place.aox wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:52 amI completely understand that is necessary, but that is insane. The people I know in the film industry (granted on a much smaller scale) and fashion photography have reported similar situations on their sets as well. It really makes for a tense set that creates a slog of a day.
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Re: The Tragedy of Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
Wasn't Paul Schrader only five days from wrapping his shoot of his latest film before it got shut down?hearthesilence wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:26 pmWith smaller productions (i.e. less people) that have maybe a month left of shooting with their full crew, I think I can understand the gamble of resuming production, especially if they're very strict about sticking to stringent guidelines (as they did on Macbeth - dismissing those who refused to wear masks pretty much set the tone), but until a vaccine's available, personally I think it's too much of a gamble to start up a much larger and longer production from scratch, and that seems to be happening all over the place.aox wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:52 amI completely understand that is necessary, but that is insane. The people I know in the film industry (granted on a much smaller scale) and fashion photography have reported similar situations on their sets as well. It really makes for a tense set that creates a slog of a day.
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Re: The Tragedy of Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
I thought it was even less than that. He finished shooting the remainder a few months ago though
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Re: The Tragedy of Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
He took the opportunity to rewrite some of the principal dialogue scenes in a way he says benefited the film (and I believe him, given how blunt and forthcoming he is about most things, and given how much First Reformed was improved by the on-set finessing of certain scenes).
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Re: The Tragedy of Macbeth (Joel Coen, 202?)
You wonder if they added cigarette burns and scratches to "make it look like" Welles'
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Re: The Tragedy of Macbeth (Joel Coen, 2021)
Must have been tough to keep everyone six feet apart during filming with all the fog machines obscuring everyone’s view.
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Re: The Tragedy of Macbeth (Joel Coen, 2021)
I know it's only a minute-long teaser, but this sure looks ponderous.