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Fred Holywell
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#9276 Post by Fred Holywell » Tue May 11, 2021 12:26 pm

Dancer Jacques d’Amboise (Seven Brides for Seven Brothers, Carousel)

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#9277 Post by Gaddis » Tue May 11, 2021 4:28 pm

MichaelB wrote:
Tue May 11, 2021 8:42 am
Kevin Jackson, a prolific writer and critic who could seemingly turn his hand to just about any subject, but his specifically on-topic output includes Schrader on Schrader, his Humphrey Jennings biography, his BFI monograph (and subsequent Arrow commentary) on WIthnail & I, plus innumerable shorter pieces, a selection of which is curated in the anthology Carnal to the Point of Scandal (reviewed here). He died shockingly suddenly from a pulmonary embolism yesterday, and must have been active on Facebook almost up to that very point, given that the news would have taken a few hours to go public.
That is a sad loss. I enjoyed Schrader on Schrader a lot - despite my mixed reacton to his films - but his Jennings work was key for me. He also was involved in The Man Who Listened to Britain, still fortunately available on youtube.

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#9278 Post by beamish14 » Tue May 11, 2021 5:22 pm

The man, the legend...Norman Lloyd, age 106.

Seeing him talk about working with Welles and the Works Progress Administration's theatre projects at the L.A. County Museum of Art's screening of Too Much Johnson was unbelievable. My god, he had so much control over a stage.

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knives
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#9279 Post by knives » Tue May 11, 2021 5:25 pm

Dang. That’s one I thought was immortal.

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domino harvey
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#9280 Post by domino harvey » Tue May 11, 2021 6:35 pm

He outlived literally everyone and seemed lucid and cognizant to the very end. Some people have all the luck, but we all have a hard stop eventually

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#9281 Post by captveg » Thu May 13, 2021 1:03 pm

My favorite Norman Lloyd story is how he attended two different World Series games ~90 years apart.

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JSC
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#9282 Post by JSC » Fri May 14, 2021 12:31 pm

Neil Connery, Sean's brother.

Known for his role in OK Connery, a.k.a Operation Kid Brother, which I suppose is mostly notable for
the appearance of several people to have appeared in the actual Bond movies (Bernard Lee, Lois
Maxwell, Daniela Bianchi, etc.), plus a score by Ennio Morricone. Check out the MST3K episode for it.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/tvands ... ames-bond/

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#9283 Post by swo17 » Tue May 18, 2021 3:05 pm

Charles Grodin discussion moved here

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#9284 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Wed May 19, 2021 11:52 am


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#9285 Post by beamish14 » Wed May 19, 2021 11:56 am

flyonthewall2983 wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 11:52 am
Paul Mooney

The Richard Pryor Show was an amazing program; just remarkable how that was able to be broadcast on American television. I forgot that he had published his autobiography not too long ago.

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#9286 Post by knives » Wed May 19, 2021 11:57 am

This is kind of an aside thing, but he’s one of the proofs of Chappelle’s greatness for putting these hard working comics and making sure everyone knew their face and often times name. Those Paul Mooney at the movies segments were gold.

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hearthesilence
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#9287 Post by hearthesilence » Wed May 19, 2021 12:02 pm

flyonthewall2983 wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 11:52 am
Paul Mooney
Both he and Chevy Chase claimed authorship for what may be SNL's first truly great sketch, but I'm much more inclined to believe Mooney over Chase based on their other work. A lot of what SNL did in the '70s falls a bit short of their lofty reputation, but even today this sketch remains bold and tense for how far it was willing to go. Maybe that has more to do with Pryor than SNL - his comedy albums (as well as the great film Richard Pryor: Live in Concert) still beat out SNL as my favorite comedic work from the '70s.

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#9288 Post by therewillbeblus » Wed May 19, 2021 12:11 pm

Mooney's segments on Chappelle's Show were gold, and of course he was a great writer in general across comedy. I'm normally a pretty vocal advocate of separating art from the artist, but did not realize the molestation accusations against Pryor's son until recently, which seem to be substantiated beyond mere he said/she said, and are obviously rather alarming...

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#9289 Post by dadaistnun » Wed May 19, 2021 11:12 pm

The great Yoshi Wada.

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The Elegant Dandy Fop
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#9290 Post by The Elegant Dandy Fop » Wed May 19, 2021 11:22 pm

dadaistnun wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 11:12 pm
The great Yoshi Wada.
Literally was listening to him this week. A real loss. Sort of the last of those post-Harry Partch style musicians born from the fluxus movement. I think all that really remains is Akio Suzuki, who's also up there in age. I remember buying the reissue of Off the Wall the day it came out. He'll be missed.

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#9291 Post by Big Ben » Thu May 20, 2021 5:58 am


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#9292 Post by hearthesilence » Thu May 20, 2021 1:11 pm

Bob Koester, owner of the Jazz Record Mart and founder of Delmark Records. A local Chicago legend as well as a legend among jazz enthusiasts, people all over the world would make the pilgrimage to his store. I think it moved a few times, but I remember it being very close to the Billy Goat Tavern and Michigan Avenue, and whenever I swung through I stopped by both. Great guy, very nice to talk to, I'm sad that he's gone but he lived a long and full life.

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#9293 Post by colinr0380 » Thu May 20, 2021 1:45 pm

Big Ben wrote:
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Kentaro Miura, author of Berserk.
I'm not hugely familiar with Berserk outside of the 1997 anime TV series adaptation of it which (like the later 2010s re-adaptation) covers the "Golden Age arc", but in circles where people were really into the story and Miura's manga this was one of the notorious works that people were worried would never be finished (especially when the story apparently spent seven years on a boat inspiring several "when will we get off the boat?" memes), with people speaking of it in the same worried way of what would happen if/when George R.R. Martin never finishes Game of Thrones.

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#9294 Post by Big Ben » Thu May 20, 2021 2:01 pm

colinr0380 wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 1:45 pm
Big Ben wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 5:58 am
Kentaro Miura, author of Berserk.
I'm not hugely familiar with Berserk outside of the 1997 anime TV series adaptation of it which (like the later 2010s re-adaptation) covers the "Golden Age arc", but in circles where people were really into the story and Miura's manga this was one of the notorious works that people were worried would never be finished (especially when the story apparently spent seven years on a boat inspiring several "when will we get off the boat?" memes), with people speaking of it in the same worried way of what would happen if/when George R.R. Martin never finishes Game of Thrones.
Everything you've said is true down to a tee. Miura had been writing Berserk for over thirty years and would take long breaks in between chapters which lead to it's infamous reputation. In addition to being a well known manga and anime Berserk is also known for being influential on the Soulsbourne series right down to character design and some plot points.

What's most upsetting is that he died so young. I imagine had he lived he would have had a better chance of finishing Berserk than Martin does Game of Thrones.

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#9295 Post by MongooseCmr » Thu May 20, 2021 2:12 pm

colinr0380 wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 1:45 pm
Big Ben wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 5:58 am
Kentaro Miura, author of Berserk.
I'm not hugely familiar with Berserk outside of the 1997 anime TV series adaptation of it which (like the later 2010s re-adaptation) covers the "Golden Age arc", but in circles where people were really into the story and Miura's manga this was one of the notorious works that people were worried would never be finished (especially when the story apparently spent seven years on a boat inspiring several "when will we get off the boat?" memes), with people speaking of it in the same worried way of what would happen if/when George R.R. Martin never finishes Game of Thrones.
Every time I see this thread updated there’s a part of me preparing to see Eichiro Oda has died and that One Piece will similarly never be finished.

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#9296 Post by colinr0380 » Thu May 20, 2021 2:32 pm

It is interesting to hear that Berserk itself apparently had quite a big influence on the styling of many videogames. The funniest seeming reference to Berserk (and long running manga series in general) came in the recent Yakuza 7 game when its main protagonist who has just spent eighteen years in jail finds out the manga series he was reading still has not concluded!

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Lemmy Caution
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#9297 Post by Lemmy Caution » Thu May 20, 2021 3:06 pm

hearthesilence wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 12:02 pm
flyonthewall2983 wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 11:52 am
Paul Mooney
Both he and Chevy Chase claimed authorship for what may be SNL's first truly great sketch, but I'm much more inclined to believe Mooney over Chase based on their other work. A lot of what SNL did in the '70s falls a bit short of their lofty reputation, but even today this sketch remains bold and tense for how far it was willing to go. Maybe that has more to do with Pryor than SNL - his comedy albums (as well as the great film Richard Pryor: Live in Concert) still beat out SNL as my favorite comedic work from the '70s.
That sketch reminds me of an incident which occurred when I was at the University of Chicago Law School. In 1989, a black female law student went for a follow-up interview at a big Chicago law firm. A senior partner noticed on her resume that one of her hobbies was golf, and commented that there weren't many golf courses in the ghetto. Followed that up by asking her how would she respond if an opposing attorney called her a "black bitch." She was shocked and reported the incident afterwords.

The partner was put on leave and subsequently retired/squeezed out. The law school stood by the student but was all conflicted since that particular law firm had very close ties to the law school. After much hand-wringing, they were suspended from on-campus recruiting for 3 years.
The coda: some felt that Obama's hiring two years later was partly an attempt to patch things up and repair some of the damage, partly acknowledging the way that black law students were treated and diminished (including within the law school, which I could go into further ...).

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#9298 Post by Michael Kerpan » Thu May 20, 2021 8:44 pm

I finished UC Law School in 1979. ;-)

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Lemmy Caution
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#9299 Post by Lemmy Caution » Fri May 21, 2021 5:40 pm

I imagine there were not many black law students back then, and significantly fewer female law students than my run from 1988-9, when the gender ratio was close to even.

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#9300 Post by fdm » Sun May 23, 2021 5:24 pm

Recent jazz passings: Curtis Fuller and Mario Pavone

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