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L.A.
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#9928 Post by colinr0380 » Tue May 24, 2022 3:56 pm

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Colin Cantwell.
Interesting to find out that according to imdb he was also a consultant for the design of the computer graphics for WarGames.

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#9929 Post by MichaelB » Thu May 26, 2022 7:59 am

Director Lívia Gyarmathy, best known outside Hungary for her 1969 debut feature Do You Remember Sunday-Monday?.

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#9931 Post by domino harvey » Thu May 26, 2022 12:21 pm

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Ray Liotta
Damn, RIP

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#9932 Post by swo17 » Thu May 26, 2022 12:33 pm

It looks like he was in the middle of filming a few things too. Very sad. Instead of merely being typecast after Something Wild and Goodfellas, he often got to play roles that took your preconceived notions of him in interesting directions, and he was always a pleasure to watch

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#9933 Post by Mr Sausage » Thu May 26, 2022 12:55 pm

One of my favourite performances of his was as the weary, beaten down cop taking his bad conscience out on the world in Narc. A forceful, unglamorous performance.

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#9934 Post by hearthesilence » Thu May 26, 2022 1:05 pm

It's not a very good movie, but Liotta's performance is a pleasant surprise in Corrina, Corrina, a good example of him breaking through the typecasting that could have plagued his entire career. But he's so good in Something Wild and GoodFellas, and both film are so great, it's no surprise lesser talents wanted to replicate that element in whatever they were putting out.

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#9935 Post by L.A. » Thu May 26, 2022 1:09 pm

R.I.P. Ray Liotta and Yes drummer Alan White.

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#9936 Post by hearthesilence » Thu May 26, 2022 1:31 pm

L.A. wrote:
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R.I.P. Yes drummer Alan White.
Going for the One was pretty good, probably the only Yes I'd listen to after the "holy trinity" of The Yes Album, Fragile and Close to the Edge (all with Bill Bruford on drums before he moved on to greater things with King Crimson).

But "Instant Karma," Imagine and All Things Must Pass are even greater, some of my favorite records by any of the Beatles.

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#9937 Post by swo17 » Thu May 26, 2022 1:40 pm

I don't even generally like prog but Tales from Topographic Oceans is incredible in my book

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#9938 Post by soundchaser » Thu May 26, 2022 1:41 pm

Alan was a classic powerhouse drummer, no doubt about it. He and Squire made for a hell of a rhythm section.

(And as someone whose username comes from the album, it will surprise no one that I think Relayer is an astonishing achievement, especially rhythmically.)

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#9939 Post by therewillbeblus » Thu May 26, 2022 1:47 pm

swo17 wrote:
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I don't even generally like prog but Tales from Topographic Oceans is incredible in my book
This. The album was the standout recommendation for the band my my friend’s dad (who is still the most knowledgeable audiophile I’ve ever met and a huge Yes fan) and I’ve never understood why it didn’t top more lists of their ranked albums

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#9940 Post by soundchaser » Thu May 26, 2022 1:57 pm

I think Tales can be kind of a meandering album at times, even among Yes’s discography. Certainly I’ve wavered on it over the years. But the middle section of “Ritual” is a fantastic showcase for White’s talents as a driving force.

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#9941 Post by hearthesilence » Thu May 26, 2022 2:02 pm

I forgot about Marriage Story - as soon as I saw Liotta at that desk in that suit, he actually reminded me of quite a few partners and employers my friends in the legal and corporate world worked under.

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#9942 Post by soundchaser » Thu May 26, 2022 2:04 pm

For anyone interested in hearing Alan White stretch his chops, I'd highly recommend the album Levin Torn White, which is full of intense instrumental tracks that never let up.

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#9943 Post by colinr0380 » Thu May 26, 2022 2:11 pm

Very surprising news about Liotta. He had a great run of crazy characters in the mid 90s with his roles in Unlawful Entry, his starring role in Unforgettable (which was infamously the film that brought John Dahl's career back down to earth as the too-hyped film following the impossible to follow up The Last Seduction. It is a bit absurdly fantastical in its high concept premise, but not entirely deserving of all the negativity) and especially the escaped lunatic in Turbulence, in which Liotta seems to be having a ball. In terms of 1997 airplane hijack thrillers, I remember much preferring it at the time to the more po-facedly serious (and therefore more politically iffy) Air Force One, and about as much as Con Air.

There's also Liotta's very amusing performance in the dinner scene of Hannibal (NSFW)!
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#9944 Post by beamish14 » Thu May 26, 2022 2:15 pm

colinr0380 wrote:
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There's also Liotta's very amusing performance in the dinner scene of Hannibal (NSFW)!


My sister had to run out of the theatre when we saw that. She came very close to passing out!

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#9945 Post by colinr0380 » Thu May 26, 2022 2:20 pm

Its amazing to think that the final scene is actually toned down (if just in a moral sense) from the same scene in the original novel, in which:
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Clarice shares the meal with Lecter before they go off on the run together!
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#9946 Post by L.A. » Thu May 26, 2022 3:07 pm

Andrew Fletcher of Depeche Mode.

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#9947 Post by beamish14 » Thu May 26, 2022 3:17 pm

L.A. wrote:
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Andrew Fletcher of Depeche Mode.
My god. The glue holding the band together over 4 decades

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#9948 Post by hearthesilence » Thu May 26, 2022 3:17 pm

Jesus, what the hell is happening this week.


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#9950 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Thu May 26, 2022 3:35 pm

hearthesilence wrote:
Thu May 26, 2022 1:31 pm
L.A. wrote:
Thu May 26, 2022 1:09 pm
R.I.P. Yes drummer Alan White.
Going for the One was pretty good, probably the only Yes I'd listen to after the "holy trinity" of The Yes Album, Fragile and Close to the Edge (all with Bill Bruford on drums before he moved on to greater things with King Crimson).
I prefer Going for the One over Fragile, which is hampered a little by those short solo tracks, good as they are it makes the whole experience a little mushy for me even if in between those are some of their best songs ever. I think I even prefer the aforementioned Relayer over it, for just how wild the instrumentation is.

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