80, 454, 1168 Lars von Trier's Europe Trilogy

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Re: 80, 454, 1168 Lars von Trier's Europe Trilogy

#101 Post by dekadetia » Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:50 pm

Some films have title cards, others are title cards.

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Re: 80, 454, 1168 Lars von Trier's Europe Trilogy

#102 Post by zedz » Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:51 pm

omegadirective wrote:
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Why the hell is the word “EPIDEMIC” in the corner of my screen the whole time?
Oh, you must have a faulty disc. :-"

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Re: 80, 454, 1168 Lars von Trier's Europe Trilogy

#103 Post by colinr0380 » Thu Feb 02, 2023 2:19 am

That was the period when DOG-tags were beginning to become a new and trendy thing to do in a multi-channel world (I remember Channel 4 ruining the only screenings of both Guy Maddin's Careful and Ron Fricke's Baraka - both extremely visual films - with their first attempts to add a logo to their programming back in the mid 90s, which still rankles. Although they have DOG-tagged their entire channel for the last decade or more now, which does not particularly matter due to the lack of interesting programming to ruin!), so I assume that Von Trier was alluding to that kind of constant and inescapable branding of a product with a copyright logo with his own logo in the corner that ties together both the 'real' world and the film within a film as both being authored works.

I was curious about the 3K restoration as well. Is that because it was an older restoration before 4K became a thing?

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80, 454, 1168 Lars von Trier's Europe Trilogy

#104 Post by MichaelB » Thu Feb 02, 2023 3:22 am

3K scans are traditionally done when the final intended resolution is 2K - it allows for things like stabilising or reframing (for instance, if the entire negative area is scanned but only a 1.66/1.85-shaped portion is ultimately desired) without losing resolution.

See also 6K scans and 4K outcomes.

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Re: 80, 454, 1168 Lars von Trier's Europe Trilogy

#105 Post by tenia » Thu Feb 02, 2023 5:27 am

Or also 5k scans for 4k outcomes (same reasons : whole area is scanned at the upper resolution, which once cropped allowed to maintain at least a 4k area).

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Re: 80, 454, 1168 Lars von Trier's Europe Trilogy

#106 Post by MichaelB » Thu Feb 02, 2023 5:52 am

And it's not just cropping but also stabilising - which inevitably involves trimming a bit round the edges if those edges aren't going to be distractingly visible (and flickering).

Which is the trade-off that has to be made if you want a perfectly stable image, but in practice those edges would most likely be cropped off by a cinema's screen masking anyway - or at least that possibility would (or certainly should) have been taken into account when shooting.

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