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CSM126 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2026 5:43 pm I wonder if the English dub lends the show some kind of coherent plot. Probably not.

That quite helpfully is where End Of Evangelion comes to the rescue! But seriously they're using the classic dub because the latest dub was funded by Netflix. I prefer the classic dub for End Of Evangelion fwiw.

Jean-Luc Garbo wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2026 6:51 pm

CSM126 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2026 5:43 pm I wonder if the English dub lends the show some kind of coherent plot. Probably not.

That quite helpfully is where End Of Evangelion comes to the rescue! But seriously they're using the classic dub because the latest dub was funded by Netflix. I prefer the classic dub for End Of Evangelion fwiw.

I am not going to watch that whole series and then a movie just to find out what the story is. I got five episodes in and nothing resembling a plot had even started to form around the random events they spammed at the screen.

My friends wonder why I dislike anime generally and it’s because most of it is like this and, I dunno, a story would be nice for so many hours of my time.

CSM -- disliking ALL anime because of seeing one notoriously impenetrable one seems a bit . . . extreme. (I've never bothered to watch it because of it -- and Anno's -- reputation). I assure MOST of anime is NOT like this. (Lots of shows may be problematic -- but not for this reason).

I wish Criterion would get hold of MTV properties Aeon Flux, The Maxx, Downtown and Liquid Television, none of which have received upgrades since getting released on DVD. I think Daria & Beavis And Butthead may have been bought up by someone since airing on MTV so they would probably be more difficult.

Michael Kerpan wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2026 7:24 pmCSM -- disliking ALL anime because of seeing one notoriously impenetrable one seems a bit . . . extreme. (I've never bothered to watch it because of it -- and Anno's -- reputation). I assure MOST of anime is NOT like this. (Lots of shows may be problematic -- but not for this reason).

That’s not what I said, but ok. I’ve tried other anime and most of what I saw was impenetrable stuff like that. There’s a lot of hyperactive nonsense, which just isn’t for me most of the time. I mean, Studio Ghibli of course has made some lovely anime films and I’m sure there’s plenty I haven’t seen that are nice.

All I said was that a large chunk of the stuff I have been exposed to was bad and confusingly plotless. Admittedly I got a bad start because my first ever anime was Akira, which is awful. But I do like some anime.

Lowry_Sam wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2026 7:56 pmI wish Criterion would get hold of MTV properties Aeon Flux, The Maxx, Downtown and Liquid Television, none of which have received upgrades since getting released on DVD. I think Daria & Beavis And Butthead may have been bought up by someone since airing on MTV so they would probably be more difficult.

Daria and B&B are doubtlessly lost in music rights hell that nobody would want to cough up the money to fix.