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Re: Jacques Rivette
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:52 am
by nolanoe
MichaelB wrote:nolanoe wrote:Divertimento was just a "short version", no?
No. It was sourced from the same shoot, but often uses different takes and offers a substantially different perspective on the material.
Ah, very interesting. Would you say it's worth the time, or is it merely "an alternative" to the long cut?
Re: Jacques Rivette
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:15 am
by MichaelB
Yes, absolutely - it's designed to be a companion-piece, and its major point of interest is that it's depicted much more from the perspective of the artist's wife (Jane Birkin) and model (Emmanuelle Béart), whereas La Belle Noiseuse itself focused far more on his viewpoint (unsurprisingly, given the core subject).
Re: Jacques Rivette
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:11 pm
by dda1996a
Any info on the release of the recently found Rivette shorts?
And where can one see Divertimento?
Re: Jacques Rivette
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:28 pm
by Michael Kerpan
There was an Asian DVD release (with subs) of Divertimento long long ago, not sure if this is still in print. I found Divertimento interesting -- but thought Belle noiseuse actually FELT shorter.
Re: Jacques Rivette
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:34 pm
by domino harvey
It was on the third disc of the (OOP) Artificial Eye DVD release
Re: Jacques Rivette
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:39 pm
by antnield
Also on Artificial Eye's Emmanuelle Béart DVD set - which may be OOP too.
Re: Jacques Rivette
Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:07 am
by dda1996a
dda1996a wrote:Any info on the release of the recently found Rivette shorts?
And where can one see Divertimento?
Any new info regarding the shorts?
Re: Jacques Rivette
Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:10 pm
by Petty Bourgeoisie
Not that I know of, but the restoration of Le Religieuse will premier at Cannes next month. So there is that bit of good news!
Re: Jacques Rivette
Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:39 pm
by dda1996a
It will be really good news when the shorts and Le Religieuse are all released on blu-ray
Re: Jacques Rivette
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:55 pm
by nick
Details for the Cohen La Belle Noiseuse bluray
Special Features and Technical Specs:
-BRAND NEW 4K RESTORATION OF THE FILM
-Two-disc Blu-ray set featuring the complete original four-hour version of La Belle Noiseuse
-Video interview with director Jacques Rivette
-Video interview with co-writers Pascal Bonitzer and Christine Laurent
-Audio commentary track by film historian Richard Suchenski
-4K Restoration 2017 theatrical re-release original trailer
-Optional English subtitles for the main feature
So it doesn't look like they will be including 'Divertimento' on this release.
Re: Jacques Rivette
Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 2:03 pm
by spectre
I missed the Artificial Eye 3-disc set when it was still generally available and not priced through the roof, and tried to purchase the Béart box set a while back, but my order ended up being cancelled after months of waiting. I’d thought it might be getting a re-release soon, so, now this is apparently not the case, I’ve just given up and bought a videotape of
Divertimento on Ebay for 20 bucks – better than nothing, hey?

Re: Jacques Rivette
Posted: Sat May 05, 2018 2:42 pm
by bearcuborg
furbicide wrote:I missed the Artificial Eye 3-disc set when it was still generally available and not priced through the roof, and tried to purchase the Béart box set a while back, but my order ended up being cancelled after months of waiting. I’d thought it might be getting a re-release soon, so, now this is apparently not the case, I’ve just given up and bought a videotape of
Divertimento on Ebay for 20 bucks – better than nothing, hey?

Rivette, and Von Stroheim are the main reason I haven’t completely ditched my VHS machine. That, and a ton of MTV from the 90s tapes.
Re: Jacques Rivette
Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 1:28 am
by JSC
La Religieuse coming to blu-ray in September courtesy of Studio Canal.
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/La-Religi ... ay/206579/
Re: Jacques Rivette
Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 1:29 pm
by spectre
Can’t wait! Astounding to think it’s taken this long to get an English-friendly release in any form.
Re: Jacques Rivette
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:47 pm
by soundchaser
Ahead of StudioCanal's release of The Nun, I just wanted to ask if anyone's heard anything about the Cohen or L'amour fou restoration timelines. I'm slowly working my way through Rivette's oeuvre, and I'd rather see things nicely cleaned-up if possible. (I watched Va Savoir in a non-anamorphic stream from Amazon last night and thought the generally murky picture hindered any enjoyment I could have gotten out of the film, which I found unusually drab for Rivette.)
Re: Jacques Rivette
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 8:44 pm
by Michael Kerpan
Va savoir -- when screened (or otherwise looks good) is a lot of fun. Too bad the Amazon stream is cruddy....
Re: Jacques Rivette
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:05 pm
by soundchaser
Michael Kerpan wrote: Wed Aug 29, 2018 8:44 pm
Va savoir -- when screened (or otherwise looks good) is a lot of fun. Too bad the Amazon stream is cruddy....
I was doubly disappointed because I picked the stream with the knowledge that the DVD was non-anamorphic. It could very well have been a straight rip of that disc. The film didn't do a lot for me, I hate to say, although I enjoyed it more than
Merry Go-Round. It felt very...weightless? And Balibar's performance did nothing for me - she seemed totally disconnected from the material. I should mention that I'd just come off of
Haut, Bas, Fragile, which quickly catapulted itself to my list of all-time greats. I'm sure that didn't help.

Re: Jacques Rivette
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:12 pm
by Gregory
The R1 Sony DVD is anamorphic.
Re: Jacques Rivette
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:15 pm
by soundchaser
Well, egg on my face, then. I must have been conflating it with the Image DVDs.
Re: Jacques Rivette
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:22 pm
by Michael Kerpan
I liked the whole main ensemble and their interactions with each other -- and loved the high wire climax.
It may have taken a little while initially to tune into Balibar's "grumpiness" (or whatever one might want to call it). Luckily, our initial exposure was to screening during its short theatrical run....
Re: Jacques Rivette
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 6:56 am
by Petty Bourgeoisie
I need to rewatch my Sony DVD of Va Savoir. It's been about 3 years since my initial viewing and I was hoping for Va Savoir+ to appear, but it doesn't look likely.
Re: Jacques Rivette
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:00 am
by Petty Bourgeoisie
soundchaser wrote: Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:47 pm
Ahead of StudioCanal's release of
The Nun, I just wanted to ask if anyone's heard anything about the Cohen or
L'amour fou restoration timelines.
I would like to hear some info as well. I'm patiently awaiting DVD Beaver to get a copy of Canal's new release. It will be interesting to see if the colors are correct in comparison to the teal disaster that was the trailer.
Re: Jacques Rivette
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 7:31 am
by dda1996a
What truly interests me is what's the plan with the newfound shorts
Re: Jacques Rivette
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:55 am
by domino harvey
Watched La Religieuse and while I'm not familiar with the source text, I was disappointed that it manages to shoehorn in both of the most tired ways to depict a nunnery in fiction: either as an oppressive hellhole, or a den of lascivious lesbianism. I was also dismayed at how amateurishly choppy and poorly matched the editing was, made all the more glaring since, in contrast to most of Rivette's other work, this is fairly straight forward narrative filmmaking. The movie does show that the leftist critics were right to back Rivette over his other cronies, as I can't imagine a film like this coming from anyone else at Cahiers. I haven't read the Cahiers defenses, but I can't even imagine the hoops one would have to jump through to pretend this isn't the anti-clerical film to end all anti-clerical films!
Since La Religieuse is about to be available to a wider audience due to Studio Canal's English-friendly UK Blu-ray, allow me to advocate for a superior (by every metric) French film that was released just six years prior to Rivette's, one exploring novel notions of what it might mean to be a nun and one still languishing in obscurity, even though it arguably has superior star power in Jeanne Moreau and Alida Valli: Raymond Léopold Bruckberger's Le dialogue des Carmélites. Bruckberger's depiction of the turmoil of a cloister of nuns in the midst of the French Revolution gives us actual moral dilemmas that aren't completely knowable going in, and the film ends with one of the most successfully relayed ironies ever put to film. It puts a familiar and safe (!) movie like Rivette's to shame
EDIT: And Rivette bulleted it in the Conseil! Of course he did
Re: Jacques Rivette
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:26 am
by Petty Bourgeoisie
Was it the new Studio Canal edition that you watched?
Since La Religiuse is Rivette's most straight forward film, I wonder what his thoughts were in retrospect. Did he consider it a misstep or a success?