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Re: Criterion Facebook and Twitter

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:27 pm
by AquaNarc
google agrees with you.

Re: Criterion Facebook and Twitter

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:31 pm
by swo17
To be clear, they also said that this is something being announced Monday. My avatar approves.

Re: Criterion Facebook and Twitter

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:36 pm
by The Elegant Dandy Fop
On a side note, the people on the Criterion Facebook page are scavengers for what ever info we post here, huh? A few minutes after posting what I thought was the answer, everyone mentions the bee scene in Rushmore or is it just a coincidence?

Anyways, I think we should start posting erroneous info just so everyone could share wrong info on the Facebook page.

Re: Criterion Facebook and Twitter

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:41 pm
by Finch
Rushmore and Renoir Blu upgrades (maybe a Renoir double bill even, Boudu with Rules?) on top of the Kieslowski set almost makes me wish for the sake of my wallet that the two or three as yet unannounced Monday titles won't be of interest to me.

Re: Criterion Facebook and Twitter

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:54 pm
by domino harvey
Wes Anderson Blu-ray upgrades are such no-brainers that I wonder what took so long. Bring on Tenenbaums goddammit

Re: Criterion Facebook and Twitter

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:56 pm
by knives
Maybe they were doing some major resto work? If I remember correctly Rushmore wasn't even mixed in HD.

Re: Criterion Facebook and Twitter

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:23 pm
by Gary Gnu
I told my friend just two weeks ago that it's only a matter of time before Rushmore gets an upgrade... He went ahead and bought it anyway.

Re: Criterion Facebook and Twitter

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:26 pm
by Oedipax
Gary Gnu wrote:
Tom Hagen wrote:A month or so back, I seem to remember Criterion asking on Facebook "which would you rather see, Decalogue or "The Three Colors?" This was after we knew that the trilogy would be coming out. Is it too much to dream that both could come out?
Holy Hell! When did this go OOP??
Sweet, I can get a $1 Amazon giftcard for my set.

Re: Criterion Facebook and Twitter

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:31 pm
by flyonthewall2983
Gary Gnu wrote:I told my friend just two weeks ago that it's only a matter of time before Rushmore gets an upgrade... He went ahead and bought it anyway.
I'm kinda surprised. They haven't released (to my knowledge, anyway) any Disney titles since Life Aquatic which made me think their deal with them was up.

But VERY glad to see this upgrade coming. Rushmore is one of my all-time favorites and is arguably Wes' best work.

Re: Criterion Facebook and Twitter

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:31 pm
by Gary Gnu
Oedipax wrote:Sweet, I can get a $1 Amazon giftcard for my set.
Wow, that sucks. I'd think the value would go up upon it going OOP. I came close to buying it around the time it was pulled. :(
flyonthewall2983 wrote:I'm kinda surprised. They haven't released (to my knowledge, anyway) any Disney titles since Life Aquatic which made me think their deal with them was up.

But VERY glad to see this upgrade coming. Rushmore is one of my all-time favorites and is arguably Wes' best work.
I know, it wasn't very logical of me to have thought that, but I just had a visceral sort feeling that it was coming up. I'm excited, as well!

They're probably going to re-release the two-disc set of Life Aquatic in a clear case, too. They've been doing that with their other two-disc titles from the pre-crazy C years.

Re: Criterion Facebook and Twitter

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:38 pm
by dwk
I think Rushmore, The Royal Tenenbaums, and The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou all need(ed) new transfers for Blu-ray releases, that may be one reason why it has taken so long to get any of them. We should be happy that Disney renewed the deal with Criterion and didn't license these titles to Mill Creek.

Re: Criterion Facebook and Twitter

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:43 pm
by Gary Gnu
Is The Royal Tenenbaums rumored for Monday's announcement? It's going to be a very Wes Anderson Thanksgiving...

Re: Criterion Facebook and Twitter

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:45 pm
by swo17
Gary Gnu wrote:Is The Royal Tenenbaums rumored for Monday's announcement?
Only subjectively.

Re: Criterion Facebook and Twitter

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:50 pm
by Gary Gnu
swo17 wrote:
Gary Gnu wrote:Is The Royal Tenenbaums rumored for Monday's announcement?
Only subjectively.
Alright, fuck this.

Re: Criterion Facebook and Twitter

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 8:58 pm
by Jeff
Criterion posted these images over a year ago, and nothing ever came of it. If it implied Tenenbaums, as was assumed, there must have been some major production delays. Perhaps it will come alongside Rushmore.

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Re: Criterion Facebook and Twitter

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:10 pm
by ianungstad
I would imagine that Criterion has licensed the rights to Rushmore and the other Wes Anderson titles owned by Disney this time around. The previous editions were work for hire done for Buena Vista. If this is the case, hopefully that means they'll have the custom blu ray cases, drop the slipcovers and the studio mandated featurettes (Starz on Set! etc)

It could explain why it's taken longer than most people thought to upgrade these titles and the stock issues with Rushmore that has plagued the title for the last few years.

Re: Criterion Facebook and Twitter

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 10:35 pm
by flyonthewall2983
Maybe this means we'll get more than the Anderson titles too. I can think of at least two Touchstone titles that would be perfect additions, The Insider and The Color Of Money.

Re: Criterion Facebook and Twitter

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:48 am
by mfunk9786
Yessssss yes yes. I want more Anderson upgrades, please.

Re: Criterion Facebook and Twitter

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:10 am
by dwk
Jeff wrote:Criterion posted these images over a year ago, and nothing ever came of it. If it implied Tenenbaums, as was assumed, there must have been some major production delays. Perhaps it will come alongside Rushmore.
They used that art for The Darjeeling Limited. The Indian, snake, and cactus are in the booklet and the sleeping dog is on the Bengal Lancer menu.

Re: Criterion Facebook and Twitter

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:47 am
by Tom Hagen
Rushmore and The Royal Tenenbaums have to be the two biggest no-brainer upgrades in the catalog from a pure sales standpoint. The fact that we haven't seen them yet suggests that there are distribution/rights issues behind the delays.

Re: Criterion Facebook and Twitter

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:57 pm
by agnamaracs
Criterion titles owned by Disney.
I'm pretty sure Chasing Amy and Chungking Express are the only two from Miramax.
Straw Dogs and the Hitchcocks are either owned by, or licensed to, MGM.

So this leaves the Wes Andersons, the Michael Bays, and for some reason, Terminal Station? (How did they get it? What branch?)

Re: Criterion Facebook and Twitter

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:16 pm
by Jeff
dwk wrote:They used that art for The Darjeeling Limited. The Indian, snake, and cactus are in the booklet and the sleeping dog is on the Bengal Lancer menu.
Ah. I guess that puts the kibosh on the notion that The Royal Tenenbaums is necessarily coming soon, but with the path cleared by Rushmore, I still suspect we'll see it eventually.

I know that Buena Vista collaborated and handled the distribution of the Tenenbaums release, but didn't Criterion do Rushmore themselves (with distribution via Image)? It doesn't have the studio-friendly slipcase or Buena Vista price point.
agnamaracs wrote:I'm pretty sure Chasing Amy and Chungking Express are the only two from Miramax.
Straw Dogs and the Hitchcocks are either owned by, or licensed to, MGM.

So this leaves the Wes Andersons, the Michael Bays, and for some reason, Terminal Station? (How did they get it? What branch?
You are correct that those two are the only Miramax titles. The Andersons and Bays came about due to lobbying by their directors. Straw Dogs, the Hitchcocks, and Terminal Station were all David O. Selznick productions. The Selnick library was purchased ABC, whose library was later purchased by Disney. In the past 15 years, Disney has licensed the ABC library to Anchor Bay, then Criterion, and now MGM. Terminal Station remains in print because, although Criterion worked with Disney to get original elements, the film has actually fallen into the public domain.

Re: Criterion Facebook and Twitter

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:06 pm
by ianungstad
Not that it really matters but the Image website only lists The Darjeeling Limited and Bottle Rocket. The lack of slipcover and higher price point is probably more a result of Buena Vista keeping the cheaper mass retail version of Rushmore in print and keeping Criterion's pricing structure for the "collector's" edition. Anyone remember when the Criterion version of Armageddon was available in Canada and they priced it at msrp 99.99? Amazon used to have it for sale for $70. (Still doesn't beat In the Mood For Love which originally had a Canadian MSRP of $110)

Re: Criterion Facebook and Twitter

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:31 pm
by cdnchris
Jeff wrote:
dwk wrote:They used that art for The Darjeeling Limited. The Indian, snake, and cactus are in the booklet and the sleeping dog is on the Bengal Lancer menu.
Ah. I guess that puts the kibosh on the notion that The Royal Tenenbaums is necessarily coming soon, but with the path cleared by Rushmore, I still suspect we'll see it eventually.

I know that Buena Vista collaborated and handled the distribution of the Tenenbaums release, but didn't Criterion do Rushmore themselves (with distribution via Image)? It doesn't have the studio-friendly slipcase or Buena Vista price point.
Even though Rushmore had an Image UPC number I think Buena Vista handled distribution. It was available on the Disney web store (where they only sold their stuff) and was briefly packaged with High Fidelity (for whatever reason) as one of those combo deals way back when. Also, to get super geeky, all of the contents (the cover, the booklet, the map, and the disc) have Buena Vista item numbers hidden in the corners. I think Criterion ultimately did these editions but Disney handled the manufacturing and distribution (with the ABC films, Terminal Station and Chungking being the exceptions.)

Re: Criterion Facebook and Twitter

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 6:41 pm
by andyli
Criterion just said they will tweet the releases individually.