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It's on my list, surely someone else will rank it so it'll place. A 70s list without Network would just be a joke.

Let me just state that my ballot will help out Network's chances very, VERY well.

Suspiria, Celine and Julie Go Boating, Pink Narcissus, Lisa and the Devil, Grey Gardens, Cria Cuervos, All That Jazz, Female Convict Scorpion Jailhouse 41, 3 Women - pretty much make up my top ten of 70s.

A few of the rest: Stroszek, Female Trouble, Halloween, Carrie, The Exorcist, Cries and Whispers, Eraserhead, Cabaret, The Honeymoon Killers, Fox and His Friends

Avanti! was cute, but it won't be making my list.

davidhare wrote:So the two movies seem to promote a bridge between Bresson's former belief, and his final atheism in L'Argent.

L'Argent is the most Catholic movie I've ever seen. Of course, Catholicism has more atheists than any other religion, so you may have a point.

I still can't get the masterlists thread to load for me (surely I can't be the only one), but if I'm right, wasn't there an earlier incarnation of a 70s list before on the board (one I didn't participate in)? If so, could someone post the old list in this thread please?

domino harvey wrote:I still can't get the masterlists thread to load for me (surely I can't be the only one), but if I'm right, wasn't there an earlier incarnation of a 70s list before on the board (one I didn't participate in)? If so, could someone post the old list in this thread please?

First, you're not my friend for omitting Avanti!. Second, I can access that thread on Safari, but not Firefox. Here's the '70's list:

The 1970s List (compiled in September 2005):

1. Annie Hall (Allen, 1977), 522
2. Nashville (Altman, 1975), 512
3. Barry Lyndon (Kubrick, 1975), 446
4. Taxi Driver (Scorsese, 1976), 442
5. Cries and Whispers (Bergman, 1972), 432
6. Chinatown (Polanski, 1974), 429
7. Aguirre the Wrath of God (Herzog, 1972), 407
8. The Godfather II (Coppola, 1974), 395
9. The Conformist (Bertolucci, 1970), 388
10. Mirror (Tarkovsky, 1975), 387
11. The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie (Bunuel, 1972), 380
12. The Marriage of Maria Braun (Fassbinder, 1979), 364
13. A Clockwork Orange (Kubrick, 1971), 361
14. The Godfather (Coppola, 1972), 353
15. Days of Heaven (Malick, 1978), 348
16. Ali: Fear Eats the Soul (Fassbinder, 1974), 321
17. Apocalypse Now (Coppola, 1979), 307
18. Don't Look Now (Roeg, 1973), 292
19. The Conversation (Coppola, 1974), 289
20. Amarcord (Fellini, 1973), 286
21. McCabe & Mrs. Miller (Altman, 1971), 283
22. Eraserhead (Lynch, 1977), 279
23. Stalker (Tarkovsky, 1979), 271
24. Manhattan (Allen, 1979), 261
25. Badlands (Malick, 1973), 256
26. Star Wars (Lucas, 1977), 251
27. The Exorcist (Friedkin, 1973), 248
That Obscure Object of Desire (Bunuel, 1977), 248
29. Le Cercle Rouge (Melville, 1970), 247
30. Last Tango in Paris (Bertolucci, 1972), 242
31. Alien (Scott, 1979), 217
32. A Woman Under the Influence (Cassavetes, 1974), 216
33. 3 Women (Altman, 1977), 204
34. Autumn Sonata (Bergman, 1978), 199
35. Solaris (Tarkovsky, 1972), 197
36. Mean Streets (Scorsese, 1973), 195
37. Walkabout (Roeg, 1971), 194
38. The Deer Hunter (Cimino, 1978), 186
39. Grey Gardens (Maysles, 1975), 174
Spirit of the Beehive (Erice, 1973), 174
41. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (Forman, 1975), 173
42. Death in Venice (Visconti, 1971), 168
43. Salo (Pasolini, 1976), 164
44. Scenes From A Marriage (Bergman, 1973), 163
45. Jaws (Spielberg, 1975), 157
46. The French Connection (Friedkin, 1971), 156
47. Gimme Shelter (Maysles, 1970), 154
The Yakuza Papers: Battles Without Honor & Humanity (Fukasaku, 1973), 154
49. Carrie (DePalma, 1976), 150
The Last Picture Show (Bogdanovich, 1971), 150
51. F For Fake (Welles, 1974), 141
52. Desperate Living (Waters, 1977), 131
53. In a Year of 13 Moons (Fassbinder, 1978), 121
54. Lancelot du Lac (Bresson, 1974), 118
55. Picnic at Hanging Rock (Weir, 1975), 117
56. All That Jazz, (Fosse, 1979), 116
57. Casanova (Fellini, 1976), 113
58. M*A*S*H (Altman, 1970), 111
59. The Outlaw Josey Wales (Eastwood, 1978), 110
60. Close Encounters of the Third Kind (Spielberg, 1977), 105
The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser (Herzog, 1974), 105
Paper Moon (Bogdanovich, 1973), 105
63. The Devils (Russell, 1971), 101
The Emigrants (Troell, 1971), 101
65. Straw Dogs (Peckinpah, 1971), 100
66. The Tenant (Polanski, 1976), 98
The Tin Drum (Schlondorff, 1979), 98
68. Dog Day Afternoon (Lumet, 1975), 95
Halloween (Carpenter, 1978), 95
70. Celine and Julie Go Boating (Rivette, 1974), 93
71. All the President's Men (Pakula, 1976), 93
Arabian Nights (Pasolini, 1974), 93
A Walk Through H (Greenaway, 1978), 93
74. Dawn of the Dead (Romero, 1978), 92
75. Two English Girls (Truffaut, 1971), 90
76. The Long Goodbye (Altman, 1973), 88
77. The Mother and the Whore (Eustache, 1973), 88
78. Two-Lane Blacktop (Hellman, 1971), 87
79. Hearts and Minds (Davis, 1974), 86
80. Zabriskie Point (Antonioni, 1970), 84
81. Effi Briest (Fassbinder, 1974), 81
82. The Passenger (Antonioni, 1975), 79
83. Suspiria (Argento, 1977), 76
84. Young Frankenstein (Brooks, 1974), 73
85. Chloe in the Afternoon (Rohmer, 1972), 72
86. Performance (Roeg and Cammell, 1970), 71
87. Hypothesis of the Stolen Painting (Ruiz, 1979), 70
Killing of a Chinese Bookie (Cassavetes, 1976), 70
89. The Bitter Tears of Petra von Kant (Fassbinder, 1972), 69
Life of Brian (Jones, 1979), 69
Love and Death (Allen, 1975), 69
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre (Hooper, 1974), 69
93. Blazing Saddles (Brooks, 1974), 68
Claire's Knee (Rohmer, 1970), 68
It's Alive (Cohen, 1974), 68
Nosferatu (Herzog, 1976), 68
97. Being There (Ashby, 1979), 67
98. 1900 (Bertolucci, 1976), 66
99. Monty Python and the Holy Grail (Jones, 1975), 64
Small Change (Truffaut, 1976), 64

Thanks, and remember, it's our differences that make us special.

domino harvey wrote:They All Laughed and Paper Moon are my two favorites, so especially for the purposes of this thread, Paper Moon. I've placed Paper Moon, Nickelodeon, and The Last Picture Show on my 70s list, and They All Laughed is all but assured to be my number one for the 80s list.

And for those who delight in blasphemy, I'll just confess that I'd rather watch What's Up Doc than Bringing Up Baby.

With the Altman titles being tossed around some more (as they should), I'll just pip in with a little love for California Split - when you've soaked up all the Elliott Gould goodness you can out of Long Goodbye, just hop over to California Split, where he's Elliott Gould-ing up a storm.

Even Dwarfs Started Small is my #1 with Home From the Sea, The Mother and the Whore, Trash, and The Meetings of Anna not far behind. I would say everyone should go see these immediately, but I'd think that everyone is already well-aware of them...

It's tough to see The Mother and the Whore, and also to some extent Even Dwarfs Started Small (unless you have netflix, which I don't). The other films you've cited I haven't seen.
Anyway I'll second your recs of both of those movies, though I don't know where they'd fall on my 70s list, which I'm not compiling because I just haven't seen enough movies all around!

Jonathan Rosenbaum's favorite films of the 1970s (if anyone cares--I think it's a fascinating list):

- Out 1 (Rivette)
- La region centrale (Snow)
- Avanti! (Wilder)
- Out 1: Spectre (Rivette)
- F for Fake (Welles)
- Parade (Tati)
- Celine and Julie Go Boating (Rivette)
- Barry Lyndon (Kubrick)
- Providence (Resnais)
- Doomed Love (de Oliveira)
- Percival le gallois (Rohmer)
- Stalker (Tarkovsky)

I'll be voting for the following Abbas Kiarostami films:

- Bread and Alley
- The Experience
- The Traveller
- The Wedding Suit
- Solution No. 1

Also, let's not forget Makk's Love.

Hopscotch wrote: I'll second your recs of both of those movies, though I don't know where they'd fall on my 70s list, which I'm not compiling because I just haven't seen enough movies all around!

Tho I don't encourage voting for Even Dwarfs..., you should still submit a list. If you feel you haven't seen enough films, just submit a top ten or top fifteen or whatever. Who says you have to go the full fifty?

I'm curious as to what your proble with Dwarfs is. Its always been one of my favorite Herzogs, and I'm disappointed it wasn't included in a current retrospective in town.

Cold Bishop wrote:I'm curious as to what your proble with Dwarfs is. Its always been one of my favorite Herzogs, and I'm disappointed it wasn't included in a current retrospective in town.

It's not that I dislike the film. It's that I hate, despise, and loathe the film on a base, fundamental level. But I'm not really interested in pissing all over the film in a thread where people have professed to loving it to the extent that it tops their list, so let's just say (to put it mildly) I'm not a fan.

denti alligator wrote:Jonathan Rosenbaum's favorite films of the 1970s (if anyone cares--I think it's a fascinating list):

- Out 1 (Rivette)
- La region centrale (Snow)
- Avanti! (Wilder)
- Out 1: Spectre (Rivette)
- F for Fake (Welles)
- Parade (Tati)
- Celine and Julie Go Boating (Rivette)
- Barry Lyndon (Kubrick)
- Providence (Resnais)
- Doomed Love (de Oliveira)
- Percival le gallois (Rohmer)
- Stalker (Tarkovsky)

Somebody get Rosenbaum to submit a list here - that's 48 potential points for Avanti! falling by the wayside.

denti alligator wrote:Jonathan Rosenbaum's favorite films of the 1970s

That's a really good list. In my eyes it especially deserves kudos for Doomed Love, and also to a lesser extant Parade (though I may be alone in preferring Trafic). I'm not sure I really have a favorite film from the '70s. Maybe Garrel's L'Enfant secret, if that counts. Or any one of Pialat's four works of that decade.

souvenir wrote:Somebody get Rosenbaum to submit a list here - that's 48 potential points for Avanti! falling by the wayside.

I feel like I should pencil in Avanti! at number fifty just to reward your pluck.

denti alligator wrote:I'll be voting for the following Abbas Kiarostami films:

- The Traveller

Also, let's not forget Makk's Love.

I would love to be able to see The Traveller. Are there any DVDs of this around? Also I second the recommendation for Love, which will probably be quite high on my list. I haven't seen the Second Run dvd, but have heard it's very good, and in any case the movie's a must-see.

domino harvey wrote:

Hopscotch wrote: I'll second your recs of both of those movies, though I don't know where they'd fall on my 70s list, which I'm not compiling because I just haven't seen enough movies all around!

Tho I don't encourage voting for Even Dwarfs..., you should still submit a list. If you feel you haven't seen enough films, just submit a top ten or top fifteen or whatever. Who says you have to go the full fifty?

I might be wrong, but I believe in the past only lists with fifty numbered entries were counted. I mean, I suppose dude could make a top ten for th fun of it but I dunno.

The thing that always surprises me when I'm making these lists (and I;m younger and certainly not as cinematically experienced as many on this board) is how big a number 50 seems at the beginning of the project and how small it seems by the end, with established classics perceived as longtime favorites ending up on the cutting-room floor. The result is that a more intimate list emerges, a true personal canon. Granted, my ballot won't be as esoteric as many of yours' but I find this project highly educational for myself as I whittle away at my list of unseen movies (and things to rewatch).

Oh, and guys, please vote for Resnais' Providence, Albert Brooks' Real Life and Akerman's News From Home amongst others whose fate on the aggregate list I question. And don't forget Sweet Sweetback's Baaaadaaasssss Song although I think it's a foregone conclusion that that will be a darling for me to defend.

(psst, anyone got a subtitles file for India Song? PM me if you do.)

mikeohhh wrote:I might be wrong, but I believe in the past only lists with fifty numbered entries were counted. I mean, I suppose dude could make a top ten for th fun of it but I dunno.

I can understand not allowing lists with more than 50, but not accepting less than 50 makes no sense. Just count their 1-10 like anyone else's...

domino harvey wrote:

mikeohhh wrote: I might be wrong, but I believe in the past only lists with fifty numbered entries were counted. I mean, I suppose dude could make a top ten for th fun of it but I dunno.

I can understand not allowing lists with more than 50, but not accepting less than 50 makes no sense. Just count their 1-10 like anyone else's...

This limits diversity, leaving it open for lists with both Godfathers, Taxi Driver, and Star Wars, or whatever. (Not that these movies are bad.)

Here's another vote for Brooks's Real Life.

denti alligator wrote:

domino harvey wrote:

mikeohhh wrote: I might be wrong, but I believe in the past only lists with fifty numbered entries were counted. I mean, I suppose dude could make a top ten for th fun of it but I dunno.

I can understand not allowing lists with more than 50, but not accepting less than 50 makes no sense. Just count their 1-10 like anyone else's...

This limits diversity, leaving it open for lists with both Godfathers, Taxi Driver, and Star Wars, or whatever. (Not that these movies are bad.)

But it also forces the listmaker to list movies they might not like in order to reach fifty. Movies like Taxi Driver and Star Wars...

If you're struggling to find 50 films you like A LOT, you shouldn't be participating. It should be the other way around: you should be having a hard time because you've got to knock films you love off the list in order to keep it to 50.