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Re: Twilight Time
Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:26 pm
by tenia
TMDaines wrote:I think a lot of the connoisseurs, the people who appreciate special features, place a lot of extra value in a lengthy booklet and special features.
I like to think I'm not only buying the movie, but a whole release full with the loving work of people dedicated to providing the most interesting stuff and care they care. That's why even if Criterion releases cost me 20% than my usual BD, they end up being the biggest chunk of my collection.
Re: Twilight Time
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:59 am
by nitin
TMDaines wrote:Gregory wrote:How can labels compete against non-invested parties making the content available for free? If they lower their prices a bit, that still doesn't make them competitive against free availability. And if TT adds more special features, those could be pirated just like the main feature, no?
Labels compete against it all the time and succeed, and have done for years. People like owning a physical copy of the media they own and like to support the companies who restore and show love to the medium that they have an interest in. People love to rip open the shrinkwrap, flick through the accompanying booklet and display their releases with gorgeous cover art. Labels compete against licensed streaming sites too, where they are essentially up against the same beast - a relatively very cheap, no thrills, barebones experience.
Special features can be pirated too, but the majority of stuff taken off the net is just a ripped film. I think a lot of the connoisseurs, the people who appreciate special features, place a lot of extra value in a lengthy booklet and special features.
I would say the one area where TT scores points with me compared to some other labels is their deal with Sony, which lets them put out 4k sourced restored transfers of some very fine films. It's a lot better, for me at least, to have that than an extras laden edition but with only an average to above average transfer from universal or mgm (recognising obviously that TT is also similar releasing MGM titles).
Also your argument is somewhat moot when you praise Arrow's work but then say even for those labor of love extra laden editions, you will only pay 8 GBP for them. In a way that suggests you dont really care about gow.much content there is, just the price point.
Re: Twilight Time
Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:03 pm
by TMDaines
nitin wrote:Also your argument is somewhat moot when you praise Arrow's work but then say even for those labor of love extra laden editions, you will only pay 8 GBP for them. In a way that suggests you dont really care about gow.much content there is, just the price point.
No, that's not true. I meant that because Arrow, or the sites selling their releases, slash their prices so quickly and consistently, it never makes sense to buy them at "full price", as they are always heavily reduced only a few months in or part of a 3 for £20 offer. It doesn't seem to happen with the same regularity and certainty for ones from MoC or the BFI or foreign labels.
Re: Twilight Time
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 5:18 pm
by vidussoni
Re: Twilight Time
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 7:31 pm
by vidussoni
LOW QUANTITY UPDATE:
OUR MAN FLINT - fewer than 75 remaining
AS GOOD AS IT GETS - fewer than 150 remaining
THE DRIVER - fewer than 300 remaining
LEAVE HER TO HEAVEN - fewer than 300 remaining
HARD TIMES - fewer than 400 remaining
BYE BYE BIRDIE - fewer than 400 remaining
BELL, BOOK & CANDLE - fewer than 500 remaining
THE BLUE MAX - fewer than 500 remaining
Re: Twilight Time
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:24 pm
by pointless
To Sir, with Love (James Clavell, 1967)
Release Date: February 10th, 2015.
Pre-order date: Wednesday, January 21st at 4 pm EST.
Special Features: TBD
Re: Twilight Time
Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:28 pm
by pointless
The St. Valentine's Day Massacre (Roger Corman, 1967)
Release Date: February 10th, 2015.
Pre-order date: Wednesday, January 21st at 4 pm EST.
Special Features:
- Isolated Score Track
Roger Corman Remembers
Movietone News
Original Theatrical Trailer
Re: Twilight Time
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 2:31 am
by chatterjees
Not sure if these have been mentioned here before, but TT has also confirmed some more upcoming title - Guess Who's Coming to Dinner (1967), Exodus (1960), Devil in a Blue Dress (1995), A Man for All Seasons (1966), Cutter's Way (1981), The Barefoot Contessa (1954), The Young Lions (1958) and "Certainly more Ken Loach in 2015."
Re: Twilight Time
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 2:36 am
by domino harvey
Hadn't heard about the Barefoot Contessa, excellent news! Exodus is already out on Blu-ray in several countries and can be imported for under $20. I was holding out to see if it was part of Kino's releasing, but now there's no sense in waiting
Re: Twilight Time
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:13 am
by What A Disgrace
Criterion missed a big opportunity with Cutter's Way, absolutely one of the best American films of the 80s. I hope the TT disc looks spectacular.
Re: Twilight Time
Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2015 7:11 am
by Valin Kenobi
I don't relish giving money to Twilight Time, but I'm afraid A Man For All Seasons is enough to break me. It's an outstanding picture, and I've been holding out for a Blu for a long, long time. (OK, more like 4 years, but for a movie with so many awards it's taken far too long to reach hi def.)
I was double-checking the DVD specs on Amazon to see if there were any supplements that might be ported (there aren't any to speak of) and for kicks I checked the
one-star reviews. I take satisfaction in the fact that three of the four aren't reviews at all, and even the fourth praises its merits as a film while ranting on about the history.
Re: Twilight Time
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:10 pm
by John Doe
TT also hinted at releasing
Mississippi Burning
Re: Twilight Time
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:36 am
by EddieLarkin
Chuck Russell signed copies of The Blob going free with qualifying orders tomorrow, Wed 14th 4pm EST. For this promotion, $150 of TT product is required to qualify, rather than the usual $100.
Re: Twilight Time
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:00 am
by swo17
Sounds like it isn't just for this promotion.
will be our first at the new $150 purchase rate
Re: Twilight Time
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:07 am
by chatterjees
I don't think that I will be interested in their promotional offers anymore now on. First, they resurface an OOP title and then hike the qualifying price tag from $100 to $150. I give up, and this is coming from a person, who owns 65 TT titles.
Re: Twilight Time
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:23 am
by swo17
Just like the $100 requirement was really a $120 requirement, 5 titles will put you a quarter short of $150, so it's effectively a 6 title or $180 requirement.
Re: Twilight Time
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:26 am
by EddieLarkin
I stopped bothering when they stopped timing the promotions with new pre-orders. For the record, TT's Facebook post regarding this did say that the $150 was a new rate, but has since been amended to remove that implication. The SAE website does still give that impression however.
Re: Twilight Time
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 7:40 am
by krnash
In comparison, I paid $150 for a copy of Shout's Herzog collection, which has 16 films and is signed by Werner fucking Herzog. Not only can I not believe Twilight Time keeps raising the level of their absurdity, but that these promotions will continue to sell out in an instant. Scary.
Re: Twilight Time
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:14 pm
by swo17
To be fair, this move makes perfect economic sense given that the promotions have been selling out in instants.
Re: Twilight Time
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:13 pm
by theflirtydozen
Via Facebook, TT has confirmed that the purchase required is now $149.75, thus only 5 titles will qualify you tomorrow.
Re: Twilight Time
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:00 pm
by What A Disgrace
Yee haw.
Re: Twilight Time
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:37 pm
by matrixschmatrix
Just to confirm, pre-orders do count towards your total, right?
Re: Twilight Time
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:43 pm
by willoneill
matrixschmatrix wrote:Just to confirm, pre-orders do count towards your total, right?
They have in the past.
Re: Twilight Time
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:51 pm
by swo17
Yes, but the only available pre-orders are the January releases.
Re: Twilight Time
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:32 am
by pointless
Stormy Weather (Andrew L. Stone, 1943)
Release Date: February 10th, 2015
Pre-order date: Wednesday, January 21st at 4 pm EST.
Special Features:
- Isolated Score Track
Audio Commentary with Dr Todd Boyd, Professor of Critical Studies, USC
