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swo17 wrote:How do you get "mediocre" from phrases like "very impressive," "a revelation," "extremely more detailed," and "may swoon at the image quality"?

Pretty easily! My internet connection is quick.

swo17 wrote:How large are you projecting the image?

104" and sitting about 12 feet away.

Just watched 'The Sacrifice' today, and to my inexpert eye, it looked fantastic. Anyone else have problems with the subtitles? Mine didn't kick on until the 5-minute mark, and I was only able to see them for the first 5 minutes by rewinding from that point.

According to Blu-ray.com poster, a new edition of Metropolis is in the works.

eerik wrote:According to Blu-ray.com poster, a new edition of Metropolis is in the works.

Wow. Kind of unnecessary. And 3 versions of the film? Even with the latest edit that brings it to 98% (my rough estimation), who is going to bother watching two even more incomplete cuts? Or did they discover more footage since Argentina?

Actually, this will be very useful for scholars of the film, film scores, or for people are interested in films with variant versions, all at one time considered "official" or "definitive." It's just as necessary as MoC's Touch of Evil BD with 6 versions of the film.

Matt wrote:scholars of the film, film scores, or for people are interested in films with variant versions, all at one time considered "official" or "definitive." It's just as necessary as MoC's Touch of Evil BD with 6 versions of the film.

I suppose I can see that. I guess I was just thinking about average consumer consumption. You could almost pull a semester class on this film alone with this edition by examining:

I) Wiemar Republic/Post WWI Germany/Lang
II) History/Production of the film
III) Reaction and Aftermath
IV) spend several weeks viewing and examining the first two cuts
V) Argentina Discovery and the "Final" cut
VI) Modern context of film itself and its discovery and other lost films.
VII) Aftermath - Final Papers

About 11 weeks

It's only a year since the last "complete" edition came out. How long have they known they were going to do this? While I'd like to have a blu-ray version that doesn't have the 16" MM shots put in (so everything is the same size/general cleanliness), I am feeling a little taken advantage of. Will MoC also put this out, as well?

Drucker wrote:It's only a year since the last "complete" edition came out. How long have they known they were going to do this? While I'd like to have a blu-ray version that doesn't have the 16" MM shots put in (so everything is the same size/general cleanliness), I am feeling a little taken advantage of. Will MoC also put this out, as well?

What you get with the version that doesn't have the 16mm footage is more explanatory intertitles, so I'm not sure it's really worth the trade-off.

The Moroder-scored version is quite a bit different, so I can easily see that being of interest. It would even be fun to note the differences in editing between the last two restorations (in additional to the 16mm footage being interpolated, the most recent restoration corrected some shot placements that were only guessed at in the previous edition). All the same, I'm happy enough with the stand-alone COMPLETE METROPOLIS.

Roger Ryan wrote:All the same, I'm happy enough with the stand-alone COMPLETE METROPOLIS.

I still haven't bought it. Mostly because it is streamable in HD on Netflix. But if nothing else, it would be cool if this boxset drove down the price of the single disc edition. I would love to pick it up around $12.99 or whatever. Still, I will reserve judgement until I see the specs.

aox wrote:

Roger Ryan wrote:All the same, I'm happy enough with the stand-alone COMPLETE METROPOLIS.

I still haven't bought it. Mostly because it is streamable in HD on Netflix. But if nothing else, it would be cool if this boxset drove down the price of the single disc edition. I would love to pick it up around $12.99 or whatever. Still, I will reserve judgement until I see the specs.

Actually, Kino's current Metropolis Blu-ray is on sale at Best Buy for $14.99 and if you can find a copy in-store, they have a $5 off any DVD/Blu-ray $14.99 & up coupon that expires on the 31st to bring it down to $9.99.

damn

nothing left in NYC. Thanks though

Yeah, that is why I said if you can find a copy in-store. Rumor is Best Buy is deleting Metropolis from their B&M stores, which is why it is $14.99 and sold out nearly everywhere. Still, it might be worth calling and/or visiting the stores since their website only shows an item being available in-store if they have 3 copies.

eerik wrote:According to Blu-ray.com poster, a new edition of Metropolis is in the works.

Are we sure this is legit? It almost seems to good to be true (about the Moroder version finally making it to DVD/Blu). I certianly hope it is. I know the Moroder version is largely disparaged, and I understand why, but I do have a soft spot for it. It was my introduction to the film (as it was for many), and at times the film has a kind of proto-80s aesthetic, what with the smoke, heavy eye makeup, and sleek architecture. Plus I'm just a sucker for cheesy 80s synth.

aox wrote:I guess I was just thinking about average consumer consumption. You could almost pull a semester class on this film alone with this edition by examining:

I) Wiemar Republic/Post WWI Germany/Lang
II) History/Production of the film
III) Reaction and Aftermath
IV) spend several weeks viewing and examining the first two cuts
V) Argentina Discovery and the "Final" cut
VI) Modern context of film itself and its discovery and other lost films.
VII) Aftermath - Final Papers

About 11 weeks

You forgot :

VIII) The socio-political implications of the use of Pat Benatar's Here's My Heart and the way that the piece helps underline the interpersonal relationships across the class divide taking place in that particular scene.

So we need to add at least another five to ten weeks to your estimate to fully appreciate the nuances of the Giorgio Moroder score! 8-[

blu-ray.com review of David Holzman's Diary. Timesaver, it looks superb.

I just wish blu-ray and DVD reviewers would take captures of supplementary films.

Bright Lights Film Journal on the Keaton shorts.

dwk wrote:KINO to release the Giorgio Moroder version of METROPOLIS on Blu-ray

Two weeks ago.

To be fair, the AICN article I linked to is an official announcement (and only for the Moroder version)

dwk wrote:To be fair, the AICN article I linked to is an official announcement (and only for the Moroder version)

No, it's not. Press release from Kino would be an official announcement, this is just a poorly written news article.

Fine. I linked to a poorly written news article in which Kino officially said they are releasing the Moroder version of Metropolis on Blu-ray, but made no comment one way or another on the multi-disc set rumored on the Blu-ray.com forums.

eerik wrote:

dwk wrote:To be fair, the AICN article I linked to is an official announcement (and only for the Moroder version)

No, it's not. Press release from Kino would be an official announcement, this is just a poorly written news article.

No need to act like a douchebag, though.

Rage and disgust is a typical reaction to reading something written by Harry Knowles.

med wrote:Rage and disgust is a typical reaction to reading something written by Harry Knowles.

Ha. I guess I should've though twice before linking to AICN. Alas, if only I'd known the terror, the irrevocable damage such action would cause.