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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:32 pm
by swo17
Yes, but I can't think of a more perfect title for the set than "Roman Polanski's Fallen Women."
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:50 pm
by mfunk9786
I don't think the phrase "Fallen Women" is going to be associated with Polanski for obvious reasons.
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:23 pm
by justeleblanc
A few points.
The Paramount Polanski DVDs are great as is.
Paramount will not license Rosemary to Criterion.
There is little correlation between a studio title's in print status and whether Criterion has licensed it.
The status of a director has little correlation with whether Criterion will put their films into an Eclipse set (Kurosawa, Ozu).
Question: Is the need for three similar films to be packaged together simply an OCD thing?
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:37 pm
by swo17
justeleblanc wrote:Question: Is the need for three similar films to be packaged together simply an OCD thing?
It was my understanding that the three films constituted an informal trilogy about urban alienation. Or, as
this girl calls it, the "apartment trilogy."
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:38 pm
by mfunk9786
I was only referring to the popularity of the films, which is much higher than the films contained within even the Kurosawa and Ozu sets. I wasn't slighting the filmmakers that've been featured in the Eclipse line or saying that their films are inferior to Polanski's.
Plus, I was being super-hypothetical. If Paramount gave Criterion the rights to these movies, they wouldn't use those rights to put out an Eclipse set. Of course, that wouldn't happen in the first place.
EDIT: And they're not going to name multiple sets "Fallen Women," by the way.
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:17 pm
by Cameron
That awful Repulsion release needs to be replaced. Seriously, a DVD rip from a pan and scan VHS tape. Sub-bootleg quality. I'd be more than willing to double dip on it.
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:31 pm
by swo17
mfunk9786 wrote:And they're not going to name multiple sets "Fallen Women," by the way.
Um, I was joking...

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:17 am
by reno dakota
Shemyrushmoremax wrote:I know this is a little off the train of thought going but does anyone know if Stalker, Mirror or The Sacrifice is up for a Criterion release?
In short, no. These three are licensed to Kino (more information
here).
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:19 pm
by swo17
Well, never say never. [-o<
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:15 pm
by Thomas J.
Shemyrushmoremax wrote:It's a shame those cannot have Criterion editions
Would it still be a shame if Kino were to re-release them in better editions? Or do they
have to be Criterions?
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:22 pm
by kaujot
Thomas J. wrote:Shemyrushmoremax wrote:It's a shame those cannot have Criterion editions
Would it still be a shame if Kino were to re-release them in better editions? Or do they
have to be Criterions?
It wouldn't be a shame, but what are the chances of Kino putting out a better than average product (ESPECIALLY a Tarkovsky)?
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:45 am
by justeleblanc
Their Stalker is quite good. Have you looked at it?
Also, Kino has been re-releasing some of their films when new prints are available, the Murnaus are the ones that come to mind.
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:57 am
by kaujot
justeleblanc wrote:Their Stalker is quite good. Have you looked at it?
Also, Kino has been re-releasing some of their films when new prints are available, the Murnaus are the ones that come to mind.
I own it. The transfer is not what it could or should be.
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:05 am
by domino harvey
Kino has the best Tarkovsky covers [/vom]
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:14 am
by kaujot
The Sacrifice is their masterpiece.

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:53 am
by justeleblanc
kaujot wrote:justeleblanc wrote:Their Stalker is quite good. Have you looked at it?
Also, Kino has been re-releasing some of their films when new prints are available, the Murnaus are the ones that come to mind.
I own it. The transfer is not what it could or should be.
I agree, but the transfer (not done by Kino) was all that was available and it is identical to other versions.
Keep in mind Criterion only releases films if proper "elements" of a film exist. Hence why they have not released Antonioni's La Notte yet.
Also, Criterion does not always do stellar jobs. Please director your attention to two DVDs of their from directors who are very high on their list: Ozu's Good Morning and Renoir's The Golden Coach (the ending).
I think the Kino is fine and worth getting until the BR comes out.
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:11 am
by kaujot
justeleblanc wrote:I agree, but the transfer (not done by Kino) was all that was available and it is identical to other versions.
Keep in mind Criterion only releases films if proper "elements" of a film exist. Hence why they have not released Antonioni's La Notte yet.
Also, Criterion does not always do stellar jobs. Please director your attention to two DVDs of their from directors who are very high on their list: Ozu's Good Morning and Renoir's The Golden Coach (the ending).
I think the Kino is fine and worth getting until the BR comes out.
I agree with your points. But I'd still rather see Criterion handle it (if they can get their hands on a proper print/transfer) than Kino putting barely a sigh's worth of effort into it.
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:27 pm
by nostalghic
I have the region 4 editions of Tarkovsky's first 5 films and I think their visual quality is quite good. If you guys are very disappointed with the American release you might want to have a look? I could take some images from the transfer if they aren't available on the internet somewhere?
I would like a good release of Nostalghia, the copy I have is a bit of a shame. Especially when all the intricate details of the Italian buildings look murky. I thought I might email Madman here to ask if they would consider releasing it in region 4 too.
One particular movie I have always thought is in line with the type of movies that Criterion release is The Cook the Thief the Wife and his Lover, and I do believe I read somewhere that it is in the running! One of my favourites!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:07 pm
by kaujot
nostalghic wrote:One particular movie I have always thought is in line with the type of movies that Criterion release is The Cook the Thief the Wife and his Lover, and I do believe I read somewhere that it is in the running!
Criterion has confirmed that they're releasing the film.
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:05 pm
by mfunk9786
It'd be great to know who holds the rights to
Entre Nous, and whether Criterion has considered putting it out. The old non-anamorphic Fox Lorber disc has been out of print for almost a decade and it still sells for way too much. It's a great film that's worthy of a quality release.
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:37 pm
by AfterTheRain
mfunk9786 wrote:It'd be great to know who holds the rights to
Entre Nous, and whether Criterion has considered putting it out. The old non-anamorphic Fox Lorber disc has been out of print for almost a decade and it still sells for way too much. It's a great film that's worthy of a quality release.
Yes, and they should also put out Cocktail Molotov (which had been a sure-fire release from Criterion years ago) and Peppermint Soda. Together with Entre Nous - all three are directed by Diane Kurys - they could make a box set. Whether it's Eclipse or CC, just get them out! They deserve to be seen by a much wider audience.
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:28 pm
by psufootball07
Truffaut's The Last Metro has been playing on IFC recently and it has Janus films logos, any chance this will be coming to Criterion?
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:59 pm
by domino harvey
I believe Criterion has the rights to a ton of Truffaut movies but it's anyone's guess as to why they're sitting on them