Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:53 pm
Wow, this might be the first month in several years where I buy every release. Happy birthday to me!
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Amen!! i could not agree more-The Rapture is a masterpiece..i was talking about it and The New Age on the 90s list thread the other day...high time for fresh or first look for everyone......a film with ridiculous balls? For me, it's on a short list with other narratives like Bigger Than Life or Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia that have the undiluted courage of their convictions, that follow their own ideas so much further than you think they will go -- all the way to the end if not beyond.
Agreed on the pricing model. A Blu re-issue with just a commentary is not a premium $40.00 release. It sucks that they do this. At minimum, they should develop more robust supplements when re-issuing older titles if they want a $40.00 price.Criterion really needs to drop Sword of Doom down to $30 - as this is becoming absurd at this point (commentary+trailer does not equal Lonesome or My Darling Clementine levels of supplements).
It would definitley be nice. For someone like me who owns and really likes Sword of Doom, bare bones pricing would be enough to to get me to purchase the upgrade. As is unless it goes on sale or I find a used copy at some point I'll probably just stick with the dvd.Minkin wrote: . Criterion really needs to drop Sword of Doom down to $30 - as this is becoming absurd at this point (commentary+trailer does not equal Lonesome or My Darling Clementine levels of supplements). That said, I'm very happy Sword of Doom actually has extras now (did it even have a leaflet before?). It is annoying when they put out a bluray with 30mins or less of content, and then charge premium prices for it (See The Uninvited for a top level $30 release).
A commentary, fairly or not, has traditionally been justification for a higher-tier release (see the American Jules Dassins). Many 1-disc DVDs were higher-tier. If you recall, Criterion initially released The Uninvited as a higher-tier and then quickly changed it after the resulting outcry.Minkin wrote:Extras are rather disappointing, hopefully more stuff will be added (Petra von Kant is the only two disc dvd set- which indicates that for the others- we're not getting much in terms of special features overall).
Criterion really needs to drop Sword of Doom down to $30 - as this is becoming absurd at this point (commentary+trailer does not equal Lonesome or My Darling Clementine levels of supplements). That said, I'm very happy Sword of Doom actually has extras now (did it even have a leaflet before?). It is annoying when they put out a bluray with 30mins or less of content, and then charge premium prices for it (See The Uninvited for a top level $30 release).
Was something specifically said about Universal titles? Or is this just lamenting that no Universal films were mentioned? If the latter, most of Criterion's 2015/16 releases weren't mentioned either, so it seems a silly complaint. Universal is likely Criterion's strongest major studio partner (since Universal barely releases anything, and a Universal release doesn't exclude a future Criterion release-like Brazil, etc, etc - which isn't even a luxury to be had with Sony!) and I expect titles to keep rolling inbeamish13 wrote:Very disappointing that there was no mention of any more forthcoming Universal properties.
It would make me very happy if Little Odessa, The Cell and Birth were under consideration.flyonthewall2983 wrote:Hopefully a lot of New Line titles will be part of the deal too.
What it boils down to (for most of us here) is whether or not we're willing to pay $5 for a feature-length commentary. Am I? In this case, absolutely. After my first encounter with this film several years ago (via the Criterion DVD), I recall being particularly frustrated by the paucity of extras for a film I felt was crying out for contextualizing, not least because it's adapted from a relatively small portion of a famously lengthy serial novel (about which at the time I was able to find very little in English on the web). I'm confident that Stephen Prince will make good use of the two hours he has to work with here.Noiradelic wrote:A commentary, fairly or not, has traditionally been justification for a higher-tier release (see the American Jules Dassins). Many 1-disc DVDs were higher-tier. If you recall, Criterion initially released The Uninvited as a higher-tier and then quickly changed it after the resulting outcry.Minkin wrote:Criterion really needs to drop Sword of Doom down to $30 - as this is becoming absurd at this point (commentary+trailer does not equal Lonesome or My Darling Clementine levels of supplements). That said, I'm very happy Sword of Doom actually has extras now (did it even have a leaflet before?). It is annoying when they put out a bluray with 30mins or less of content, and then charge premium prices for it (See The Uninvited for a top level $30 release).
We may very well get more than that, but yeah, definitely this brings to an end the short-lived hopes and dreams of a complete Sturges set or even "Universal title-complete"warren oates wrote:I feel like the individual release of The Palm Beach Story puts to bed the idea that Criterion would somehow be issuing a fully loaded Blu-ray version of the Universal Sturges set. We can likely expect Sullivan's Travels, The Lady Eve and perhaps someday Unfaithfully Yours to be upgraded, but maybe not much more.
I could see them maybe breaking out Hail the conquering Hero or Christmas in July from the Universal set, or after updating Sullivans Travels and the Lady Eve issuing an Etaix like set on bluray with the other films.warren oates wrote:I feel like the individual release of The Palm Beach Story puts to bed the idea that Criterion would somehow be issuing a fully loaded Blu-ray version of the Universal Sturges set. We can likely expect Sullivan's Travels, The Lady Eve and perhaps someday Unfaithfully Yours to be upgraded, but maybe not much more.
As far as I know the John Waters singles are still in print on DVD, though the double feature packs have been gone for some time now. Both Pink Flamingos and Polyester were released by Criterion on laserdisc and have still-exclusive commentaries, so these seem likely candidates, if nothing else. Not to mention the fact that Waters just had that high profile, complete retrospective at Lincoln Center a month ago. (Tricky/impossible rights aside, think of the glut of unreleased early Waters stuff out there! Mondo Trasho and Multiple Maniacs haven't surfaced since VHS, and his early shorts have rarely been seen by anyone under any circumstances. Getting these onto a Criterion disc, either as standalones or special features to other things, would make me so happy...)warren oates wrote:What about all of those New Line John Waters' titles? Only Hairspray has been upgraded to Blu. Are the rest of them even in print on DVD?
It's my understanding that the only film that the music rights are a real issue with is Mondo Trasho. That said, I've been led to believe that it'll be near-impossible to get the proper music rights for that one again.Drucker wrote:Wouldn't it be really difficult to get the Waters' films on Blu-Ray because of music rights clearance?
I bought Polyester/Desperate Living and Pink Flamingos/Female Trouble off Amazon a couple of months ago.Raymond Marble wrote:As far as I know the John Waters singles are still in print on DVD, though the double feature packs have been gone for some time now.
Provided they do the right version, i.e. the 1988 Turner preview version, and not that monstrosity of a 2005 special edition.flyonthewall2983 wrote:Pat Garrett & Billy The Kid would be incredible. One of my favorite Westerns.
Unless you count Black Orpheus.albucat wrote:I believe it's not only that, but the first from South America period.