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Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:58 pm
by swo17
Amores perros has a slightly different cover than pictured on Criterion's website

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:01 pm
by Pavel
The unstoppable force (bad covers) vs the immovable object (great titles).
Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:06 pm
by senseabove
The precise moment the C&JGB cover uses is probably the most succinct, single-moment representation of the willed collective madness and elation that are the movie's heart, even if it's at the expense of the mystical and ominous tone. The balance between those is what makes the movie as special as it is, but the former is probably the more memorable element—few movies revel with as much pleasure in the joyous explorations made possible by friendship, so I get why they'd highlight that, even if I think it's a little misleading to the first-time viewer. The BFI blu-ray cover captures the balance of tones better, though it's also a much more bland cover, more for the folks who've seen it than the folks who haven't... I can't say I'm crazy about the Criterion cover, but I don't dislike it, and it at least makes sense to me.
Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:08 pm
by therewillbeblus
Well I think Defending Your Life's cover is hilarious. Tacky, absolutely, but that billboard's inclusion -that looks more like a clickbait pop-up than a billboard- is so audacious I kinda respect it as a bit.
Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:22 pm
by aox
Not counting the WKW box, this is the first month in a long time I have seen none of the announced releases. How are the other films? What is essential?
And specifically, how is that Mike Leigh film? I just watched Life is Sweet this morning which I mostly enjoyed. The only Leigh I have been absolutely enamoured by so far is Vera Drake, but I am new to his filmography.
Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:31 pm
by therewillbeblus
aox wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:22 pm
Not counting the WKW box, this is the first month in a long time I have seen none of the announced releases. How are the other films? What is essential?
And specifically, how is that Mike Leigh film? I just watched
Life is Sweet this morning which I mostly enjoyed. The only Leigh I have been absolutely enamoured by so far is
Vera Drake, but I am new to his filmography.
All of these releases (other than the WKW box) are essential, except
Touki Bouki is already in Scorsese's WCP vol 1. However, your mileage will vary based on how you feel about Brooks and Rivette.
Secrets and Lies is one of my favorite Leigh films, top three easily, but I also think
Life is Sweet gets close to cracking the top and find
Vera Drake to be middling Leigh, so maybe don't listen to me
Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:53 pm
by knives
aox wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:22 pm
Not counting the WKW box, this is the first month in a long time I have seen none of the announced releases. How are the other films? What is essential?
And specifically, how is that Mike Leigh film? I just watched
Life is Sweet this morning which I mostly enjoyed. The only Leigh I have been absolutely enamoured by so far is
Vera Drake, but I am new to his filmography.
That seems very me-ish on Leigh. In which case run don’t walk to Peterloo which given your expressed interest in history, if I am remembering correctly, should be double the good for you. I also favor Mr. Turner, Topsy Turvy, and A Sense of History.
Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:58 pm
by Shrew
Celine and Julie is terrific and absolutely essential. I also think it's one of the best places to start with Rivette's work; it is far more accessible than Out 1 or the other films in the Arrow box, and far more developed and confident that Paris a tout appartient. (I'm also fine with the cover art--the Berto as magician image has always felt a bit gazey, and I do think the Criterion cover better captures the fun inherent in the film.)
And similarly, Secrets and Lies is top-tier Leigh. It may be the single best showpiece of his strengths in their most digestible form, even if certain other films of his might be more beloved or more interesting to individual taste.
Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:29 pm
by The Pachyderminator
swo17 wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:58 pm
Amores perros has a slightly different cover than pictured on Criterion's website
[images snipped]
I don't see any difference?
Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:46 pm
by therewillbeblus
The Pachyderminator wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:29 pm
swo17 wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:58 pm
Amores perros has a slightly different cover than pictured on Criterion's website
[images snipped]
I don't see any difference?
The background on the disc is tan and there's white outlines in paint-like brushstrokes for the lettering and image, as opposed to just white on the image posted above
Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:48 pm
by swo17
It even carries over to logos and such on the spine and back cover. It half looks like a mistake, but kinduva cool one
Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:22 pm
by therewillbeblus
Yeah I like it a lot more
Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:21 pm
by Michael Kerpan
My first 2 Rivette films were Va savoir and Gang of Four, both of which I loved right from the start. On the other hand, it took at least three viewings of Celine and Julie for me to begin to fall in love with it as a whole (as opposed to enjoying only parts). So, I can't say -- from my own experience -- that it would have been a great starting place for someone unacquainted with Rivette's work. Will I buy my fifth or so version of C&J? Probably, but not if the color is botched.
Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:25 pm
by The Pachyderminator
therewillbeblus wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:46 pm
The Pachyderminator wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:29 pm
swo17 wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:58 pm
Amores perros has a slightly different cover than pictured on Criterion's website
[images snipped]
I don't see any difference?
The background on the disc is tan and there's white outlines in paint-like brushstrokes for the lettering and image, as opposed to just white on the image posted above
Oh, that's pretty cool, actually. I thought the color difference was just due to the lighting in swo's picture.
Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7
Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:47 pm
by swo17
I actually stole that picture from someone else's eBay listing, as I was too lazy to take my own. But no more!

(Note the three objects on the bottom row with the printing also off.)

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:33 am
by Finch
Marianne Jean-Baptiste and Brenda Blethyn's reactions to the other March covers are perfect.
Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:28 am
by barbarella satyricon
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Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:51 pm
by acroyear
There is something about the haphazard kerning of the letters in "Secrets" for the Leigh cover that is really gnawing at me. Haven't slept since.
Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:56 pm
by soundchaser
acroyear wrote: Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:51 pm
There is something about the haphazard kerning of the letters in "Secrets" for the Leigh cover that is really gnawing at me. Haven't slept since.
It's like a Rorschach test: I see "SE C RET S"
Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:09 pm
by therewillbeblus
Huh, the letters are also a little elevated or lowered as well as spaced out without rhyme or reason (including the font for Mike Leigh's credit underneath). Maybe this is to signify that something is 'off' about this picture we're seeing of these two women:
Who chooses to sit on the same side of the table when anxiously getting to know someone?
Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:13 pm
by The Pachyderminator
I was about to point out the same thing about the vertical alignment. I think the discombobulating effect is intentional, but I agree it's kind of painful to look at.
Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:17 pm
by therewillbeblus
A lot of the secrets and lies are barely obvious until Spall's climactic speech, just like this font until you look a bit closer. Gotta love super deep thematic typeface
Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:35 am
by cdnchris
Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7
Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:40 pm
by justeleblanc
aox wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:22 pm
Not counting the WKW box, this is the first month in a long time I have seen none of the announced releases. How are the other films? What is essential?
And specifically, how is that Mike Leigh film? I just watched
Life is Sweet this morning which I mostly enjoyed. The only Leigh I have been absolutely enamoured by so far is
Vera Drake, but I am new to his filmography.
I'd say
Secrets and Lies is pretty essential. I'm a big fan of
Vera Drake as well, if that's of any help.
Celine and Julie is also essential. And if you are curious to explore more Rivette, then I highly recommend Mary Wiles's book. It's less of a critical/literary reading of the themes in his films, and instead an archival research based study of each films' production histories, contextualized by Rivette's personal life and his growth as a director. Might be worth watching his short film
Coup du berger first, though.
Defending Your Life is just an extraordinarily funny high concept comedy from the 1990s. Rip Torn's amazing in it.
Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7
Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:44 pm
by black&huge
justeleblanc is this book you're referring too?
https://www.press.uillinois.edu/books/c ... 36651.html
if so, you just gave me some new reading!