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Re: Dissent & Disruption: Alan Clarke at the BBC

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:01 am
by Orlac
I just had a wonderful dream where Alan Clarke directed The Daemons instead of Barry Letts...

No offence Barry.

Re: Dissent & Disruption: Alan Clarke at the BBC

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:57 am
by NABOB OF NOWHERE
Barry died 7 years ago but I'll pass the message on.

Re: Dissent & Disruption: Alan Clarke at the BBC

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:25 am
by What A Disgrace
We're getting a new commentary on Christine by Corin Campbell Hill and Sam Dunn, according to Amazon.

Re: Dissent & Disruption: Alan Clarke at the BBC

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:38 am
by MichaelB
I didn't know about that one, which makes the three new extras that I referred to above (including another commentary) still unannounced!

Re: Dissent & Disruption: Alan Clarke at the BBC

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:25 am
by jlnight
Are those Leland intros from the Clarke season on BBC2 from 1991?

Re: Dissent & Disruption: Alan Clarke at the BBC

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:35 pm
by AidanKing
With regard to Penda's Fen, a few years ago, Nick James, the editor of Sight and Sound, wrote here about being invited to the Telluride Film Festival and being asked to bring an example of what he regarded as being an underseen and underappreciated (particularly outside Britain) British film for presentation at the festival and that he chose to take Penda's Fen. He reported that opinion on the film was divided with some viewers regarding it as a masterpiece and some seeing it as being akin to a student film.

It seems to me as if Penda's Fen is a bit of an outlier in Alan Clarke's filmography. Is there anything else like it in his work? I remember seeing Artemis 81, which was also written by David Rudkin and made by the BBC, but unfortunately can't remember all that much about it to enable me to compare it to Penda's Fen.

We were previously discussing Clarke's films with regard to the kind of social realism that doesn't get made for British TV any more, which made it particularly interesting to me that, in this interview on Radio 4's Film Programme (which starts about 5 minutes in), Phil Davis argues that, although Clarke tackles social realist subjects, his films are not social realism in the usual sense as they are too strange. The item also features some touching reminiscences about Alan Clarke from David Leland.

Re: Dissent & Disruption: Alan Clarke at the BBC

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:38 pm
by nosy lena
Finally pre-ordered this from Amazon UK, £94.74 incl. shipping to the U.S. is quite the deal. So excited :)

Re: Dissent & Disruption: Alan Clarke at the BBC

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 5:49 pm
by Robin Davies
nosy lena wrote:Finally pre-ordered this from Amazon UK, £94.74 incl. shipping to the U.S. is quite the deal. So excited :)
Which set did you order?

Re: Dissent & Disruption: Alan Clarke at the BBC

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 6:11 pm
by Rev.Powell
£99.99 at MovieMail. And even less if you use the codes floating around - BONUSVIP10 (10% of everything) and FILM70 (£10 off anything over £70, expires at the end of the month). £79.99...

Re: Dissent & Disruption: Alan Clarke at the BBC

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 6:43 pm
by EddieLarkin
Wow, that's actually quite a fair bit cheaper than I expect it'll ever get at Amazon before release day.

Re: Dissent & Disruption: Alan Clarke at the BBC

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:40 pm
by nosy lena
Robin Davies wrote:Which set did you order?
Dissent & Disruption: Alan Clarke at the BBC (1969 - 1989) (Limited Edition 13 disc Blu-ray Box Set)

Re: Dissent & Disruption: Alan Clarke at the BBC

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:43 pm
by Graham
Thanks. Just preordered. Quick question - does MovieMail take money for preorders immediately or at shipment?

Re: Dissent & Disruption: Alan Clarke at the BBC

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:44 pm
by nosy lena
Rev.Powell wrote:£99.99 at MovieMail. And even less if you use the codes floating around - BONUSVIP10 (10% of everything) and FILM70 (£10 off anything over £70, expires at the end of the month). £79.99...
wow. nice deal.

Re: Dissent & Disruption: Alan Clarke at the BBC

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:54 pm
by domino harvey
Only a 5 pound difference from Amazon for US shoppers, and I'd rather stick with Amazon's CS and the chance of a price drop in the next month while pre-ordered for five pounds' worth of reassurance

Re: Dissent & Disruption: Alan Clarke at the BBC

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:44 am
by Kauno
Graham wrote:Thanks. Just preordered. Quick question - does MovieMail take money for preorders immediately or at shipment?
MovieMail wrote:If payment is paid by credit/card using the Pay with Card option, then payment will only be taken at the point your order is dispatched, so you will be charged after you've completed your order with us.

Re: Dissent & Disruption: Alan Clarke at the BBC

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:48 am
by Graham
Kauno wrote:
Graham wrote:Thanks. Just preordered. Quick question - does MovieMail take money for preorders immediately or at shipment?
MovieMail wrote:If payment is paid by credit/card using the Pay with Card option, then payment will only be taken at the point your order is dispatched, so you will be charged after you've completed your order with us.
Thanks.

Re: Dissent & Disruption: Alan Clarke at the BBC

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:28 am
by MichaelB
Full and final specs announced - including the last-minute additions:
Dissent & Disruption: Alan Clarke at the BBC (1969–1989)
13-disc Blu-ray box set
Alan Clarke at the BBC, Vol 1: Dissent (1969–1977) 6-disc DVD
Alan Clarke at the BBC, Vol 2: Disruption (1978–1989) 6-disc DVD
Release date 30 May 2016


‘Clarke had it all – he had range, he had vision. He remains, in my eyes, quite simply the greatest British director of my lifetime.’ Paul Greengrass

‘The absence from the cultural landscape of a true giant like Alan is immeasurable. No one has replaced him. I feel privileged to have been associated with him.’ Gary Oldman

Following on from BFI Southbank’s current retrospective season celebrating the work of the great director/producer/writer Alan Clarke (1935–1990), 30 May will see the BFI’s release of Dissent & Disruption: Alan Clarke at the BBC (1969-1989), a mammoth 13-disc Limited Edition Blu-ray box set, and two DVD volumes – Alan Clarke at the BBC, Volume 1: Dissent (1967-1977) and Volume 2: Disruption (1978–1989). Also released, one week prior to the box sets, will be The Firm Director’s Cut (1989) and Penda’s Fen (1974); each on Limited Edition Blu-ray and on DVD.

Although best remembered for three controversial and groundbreaking dramas – the notorious Scum, Made in Britain and The Firm – the breadth of Alan Clarke’s radical, political, innovative, inspirational work, with actors including Gary Oldman, Philip Davis (The Firm), Ray Winstone, Phil Daniels (Scum), Tim Roth (Made in Britain) and even David Bowie (Baal), and his influence on directors like Gus Van Sant, Paul Greengrass, Harmony Korine, Clio Barnard and Shane Meadows should see him rightly regarded as one of Britain’s greatest ever filmmaking talents. While much of his work was documentary-like in its gritty realism, and in the way he focused on society’s marginal groups and underdogs, Clarke’s versatility saw him turn his hand to comedy (Rita, Sue and Bob Too), minimalism (Elephant, Christine) and adaptations of writers as diverse as Bertolt Brecht and Georg Büchner.

These truly magnificent Blu-ray and DVD collections, the most comprehensive packages ever produced by the BFI for a single filmmaker, feature newly remastered presentations of all surviving Alan Clarke BBC TV productions, including Penda’s Fen, Diane, Scum, Nina, Baal, Christine, Road, The Firm and Elephant, along with lesser-known work and previously unseen rarities.

In addition to these enthralling films, there are over 25 special features in the Blu-ray box set. Highlights include a newly recorded commentary by Gary Oldman for The Firm Director’s Cut, five filmed introductions by writer David Leland, extracts from BBC discussion shows Tonight and Open Air, the new multi-part documentary Alan Clarke: Out of His Own Light, nine audio commentaries and a 200-page book containing new essays and full credits. The Blu-ray set also contains a bonus DVD of six long-unseen episodes from Rediffusion’s Half Hour Story strand from the late 1960s. Full details on all special features are below.

After beginning his career at ATV and Rediffusion, Alan Clarke joined the BBC in 1969 and made his mark in the weekly feature-length drama strands The Wednesday Play and Play for Today, with a new and highly distinctive directorial style. He developed a cult following for his hard-hitting work which dissected the darker side of British life, telling stories about neglected or despised groups in contemporary society, like skinheads and football hooligans, and he focused on the troubles in Northern Ireland for his groundbreaking works Contact and Elephant. Clarke worked with a regular team of high-calibre writers that included David Leland, David Rudkin, Roy Minton, Alun Owen and Edna O’Brien. In 1977, Scum, his violent exposé of shockingly brutal conditions in a borstal, was banned by a nervous BBC and not shown for 14 years. Determined to see the story told, Clarke then made the film version released in 1979 to great acclaim.

Working in television during a significant period in the evolution of TV drama, Clarke’s peers were the likes of Mike Leigh, Ken Loach, Dennis Potter and Stephen Frears, who said, in the Foreword to Alan Clarke (Ed: Richard Kelly, Faber & Faber, 1998): “He was sceptical, cynical of authority, rebellious but not ideological, instinctively principled but also practical and canny, solitary but the best company, authoritative but not in search of power…as serious and as funny as anyone I’ve ever met”. Interviewed in Corin Campbell Hill’s documentary Director: Alan Clarke (1991) made the year after Clarke’s death, Frears simply said: ”He was the best of all of us.”
Dissent & Disruption: Alan Clarke at the BBC (1969-1989) – Limited Edition 13-disc Blu-ray box set
Includes all surviving BBC TV productions directed by Alan Clarke, extensive extra features (as detailed below), a 200-page book with new essays and full credits, and an exclusive bonus DVD containing six of the seven surviving Half Hour Story episodes directed by Clarke:

The Last Train Through Harecastle Tunnel (1969) / Sovereign’s Company (1970) / The Hallelujah Handshake (1970) / To Encourage the Others (1972) / Under the Age (1972) / Horace (1972) / The Love-Girl and the Innocent (1973) / Penda’s Fen (1974) / A Follower for Emily (1974) / Diane (1975) / Funny Farm (1975) / Scum (1977) / Nina (1978) / Danton’s Death (1978) / Beloved Enemy (1981) / Psy-Warriors (1981) / Baal (1982) / Stars of the Roller State Disco (1984) / Contact (1985) / Christine (1987) / Road (1987) / The Firm: Director’s Cut (1989, previously unreleased) / The Firm: Broadcast version (1989) / Elephant (1989)

Special features
• Exclusive bonus DVD with six Clarke-directed Rediffusion Half Hour Story episodes: Shelter (1967, 27 mins); The Gentleman Caller (1967, 25 mins); Goodnight Albert (1968, 26 mins); Stella (1968, 26 mins); The Fifty-Seventh Saturday (1968, 26 mins); and Thief (1968, 26 mins)
George’s Room (1967, 25 mins): Clarke’s colour production for Rediffusion, written by Alun Owen, and starring Geraldine Moffatt and John Neville
Alan Clarke: Out of His Own Light (2016, 230 mins approx): twelve-part documentary featuring interviews with fifty of Clarke’s collaborators, family and friends
Alan Clarke at The Questor’s Theatre: stills gallery documenting Clarke’s time as a theatre director in Ealing
• David Leland introduces To Encourage the Others (1991, 3 mins)
Diane audio commentary with Janine Duvitski and Richard Kelly (2016)
• David Leland introduces Scum (1991, 7 mins)
Scum audio commentary with David Threlfall, Margaret Matheson, Phil Daniels and Nigel Floyd (2004)
Tonight: Scum discussion (1978, 11 mins)
Arena: ‘When is a play not a play?’ (1978, 46 mins): fascinating documentary examining the then-new trend in TV plays which combined elements of documentary and drama to create gritty, and often brutal, work
Bukovsky (Alan Clarke, 1977, 50 mins): Alan Clarke’s never-before-seen documentary
Bukovsky outtakes (50 mins): location footage, including sections featuring Clarke himself
Bukovsky audio commentary with Jehane Markham, Grenville Middleton and Sam Dunn (2016)
• David Markham interview with Alan Clarke (20 mins, audio only): recorded during the production of Bukovsky
• Alan Clarke’s letters to the Markhams: stills gallery, with readings by Jehane Markham
• David Leland introduces Contact (1991, 4 mins)
Contact audio commentary with Sean Chapman and Allan Bairstow (2016)
AFN Clarke on Contact (2016): the writer of Contact recalls the production and working with Alan Clarke
Christine audio commentary with Corin Campbell Hill and Sam Dunn (2016)
• David Leland introduces Road (1991, 3 mins)
Road audio commentary with Corin Campbell Hill, Stuart Walker and Sam Dunn (2016)
Open Air: Road discussion (1987, 26 mins): audience feedback programme featuring Road star Mossie Smith, co-producer Andrée Molyneux and Alan Clarke
Alan Clarke on location: gallery of previously-unseen photographs
• David Leland introduces The Firm (1991, 3 mins)
The Firm (Director’s Cut) audio commentary with Gary Oldman
The Firm (Broadcast version) audio commentary with Lesley Manville, Phil Davis, David Rolinson and Dick Fiddy (2007)
Elephant audio commentary with Danny Boyle and Mark Kermode (2004)
Open Air: Elephant discussion (1989, 21 mins)
• Alan Clarke interview (1989): Clarke discusses Elephant and The Firm in an interview shot in LA
• Fully illustrated 200-page book with a foreword by Molly Clarke, an introduction by Danny Leigh and new essays by David Rolinson, Lisa Kerrigan, Alex Davidson, Mark Duguid, Nick Wrigley, Kaleem Aftab, Sukhdev Sandu, Lizzie Francke, Ashley Clark, Sam Dunn, Allan Bairstow, Richard T Kelly and Nick James; and full production credits

Product details
RRP: £149.99/ Cat. no. BFIB1250 / Cert 18
UK / 1969-1989 / colour, black and white / 1995 mins (+ extras) / original aspect ratios 1.33:1 / English language with optional hard-of-hearing subtitles / 25fps/1080p/50i / 2 x BD50, 9 x BD25 + 2 x DVD9 / BD: LPCM 2.0 mono audio (48kHz/24-bit) / DVD: Dolby Digital 2.0 mono audio (320 kbps)
Alan Clarke at the BBC, volume 1: Dissent (1969-1977) – 6-DVD box set
Includes newly remastered presentations of all surviving Alan Clarke BBC TV productions up to 1977, as well as filmed introductions by writer David Leland, extracts from BBC discussion shows Tonight and Arena, parts 1–6 of new multi-part documentary Alan Clarke: Out of His Own Light, audio commentaries and a 100-page book containing new essays and full credits.

The Last Train Through Harecastle Tunnel (1969) / Sovereign’s Company (1970) / The Hallelujah Handshake (1970) / To Encourage the Others (1972) / Under the Age (1972) / Horace (1972) / The Love-Girl and the Innocent (1973) / Penda’s Fen (1974) / A Follower for Emily (1974) / Diane (1975) / Funny Farm (1975) / Scum (1977)

Special features
Alan Clarke: Out of His Own Light (2016): parts 1-6 of a new documentary featuring interviews with fifty of Clarke’s collaborators, family and friends
George’s Room (1967, 25 mins): Clarke’s colour production for Rediffusion, written by Alun Owen, and starring Geraldine Moffatt and John Neville
Alan Clarke at The Questor’s Theatre: stills gallery documenting Clarke’s time as a theatre director in Ealing
• David Leland introduces To Encourage the Others (1991)
Diane audio commentary with Janine Duvitski and Richard Kelly (2016)
• David Leland introduces Scum (1991, 7 mins)
Scum audio commentary with David Threlfall, Margaret Matheson, Phil Daniels and Nigel Floyd (2004)
Tonight: Scum discussion (1978)
Arena: ‘When is a play not a play?’ (1978): fascinating documentary examining the then-new trend in TV plays which combined elements of documentary and drama to create gritty, and often brutal, work
• Fully illustrated 100-page book with a foreword by Molly Clarke and new essays by Alex Davidson, Mark Duguid, Nick Wrigley, Kaleem Aftab, Sukhdev Sandu, Lisa Kerrigan, David Rolinson, Lizzie Francke and Ashley Clark; and full production credits

Product details
RRP: £69.99/ Cat. no. BFIV2065 / Cert 18
UK / 1969-1977 / colour, black and white / 978 mins (+ extras) / original aspect ratio 1.33:1 / English with optional hard-of-hearing subtitles / 25 fps / 6 x PAL DVD9 / Dolby Digital 2.0 mono audio (320 kbps
Alan Clarke at the BBC, volume 2: Disruption (1978-1989) – 6-DVD box set
Includes newly remastered presentations of all Alan Clarke BBC TV productions from 1978 to 1989, as well as three filmed introductions by writer David Leland, extracts from BBC discussion show Open Air, parts 7-12 of new multi-part documentary Alan Clarke: Out of His Own Light, footage from Alan Clarke’s unbroadcast documentary Bukovsky (1977), two versions of The Firm, five audio commentaries and a 100-page book.

Nina (1978) / Danton’s Death (1978) / Beloved Enemy (1981) / Psy-Warriors (1981) / Baal (1982) / Stars of the Roller State Disco (1984) / Contact (1985) / Christine (1987) / Road (1987) / The Firm: Director’s Cut (1989, previously unreleased) / The Firm: Broadcast version (1989) / Elephant (1989)

Special features
Alan Clarke: Out of His Own Light (2016): parts 7-12 of a new documentary featuring interviews with fifty of Clarke’s collaborators, family and friends
Bukovsky (Alan Clarke, 1977, 50 mins): Alan Clarke’s never-before-seen documentary
Bukovsky outtakes (50 mins): location footage, including sections featuring Clarke himself
Bukovsky audio commentary with Jehane Markham, Grenville Middleton and Sam Dunn (2016)
• David Markham interview with Alan Clarke (20 mins, audio only): recorded during the production of Bukovsky
• Alan Clarke’s letters to the Markhams: stills gallery, with readings by Jehane Markham
• David Leland introduces Contact (1991, 4 mins)
Contact audio commentary with Sean Chapman and Allan Bairstow (2016)
AFN Clarke on Contact (2016): the writer of Contact recalls the production and working with Alan Clarke
Christine audio commentary with Corin Campbell Hill and Sam Dunn (2016)
• David Leland introduces Road (1991, 3 mins)
Road audio commentary with Corin Campbell Hill, Stuart Walker and Sam Dunn (2016)
Open Air: Road discussion (1987, 26 mins): audience feedback programme featuring Road star Mossie Smith, co-producer Andrée Molyneux and Alan Clarke
• Alan Clarke on location: gallery of previously-unseen photographs
• David Leland introduces The Firm (1991, 3 mins)
The Firm (Director’s Cut) audio commentary with Gary Oldman
The Firm (Broadcast version) audio commentary with Lesley Manville, Phil Davis, David Rolinson and Dick Fiddy (2007)
Elephant audio commentary with Danny Boyle and Mark Kermode (2004)
Open Air: Elephant discussion (1989, 21 mins)
• Alan Clarke interview (1989): Clarke discusses Elephant and The Firm in an interview shot in LA
• Fully illustrated 100-page book with an introduction by Danny Leigh and new essays by Kaleem Aftab, Sam Dunn, Lisa Kerrigan, David Rolinson, Mark Duguid, Ashley Clark, Allan Bairstow, Lizzie Francke, Richard T Kelly and Nick James; and full production credits

Product details
RRP: £69.99/ Cat. no. BFIV2066 / Cert 18
UK / 1978-1989 / colour / 861 mins (+ extras) / original aspect ratio 1.35:1 / English language with optional hard-of-hearing subtitles / 25fps / 6 x PAL DVD9 / Dolby Digital 2.0 mono audio (320 kbps)
I still can't get over quite how staggering this package is.

Re: Dissent & Disruption: Alan Clarke at the BBC

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:48 am
by NABOB OF NOWHERE
Well what with this and the Euros that's Summer taken care of.

Re: Dissent & Disruption: Alan Clarke at the BBC

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:27 pm
by peerpee
MichaelB wrote:I still can't get over quite how staggering this package is.
Me neither! It's absolutely shocking. I've dreamt about such a set for a long time, but never imagined it would actually be this thorough. Talk about grasping the nettle! The amount of effort that's gone into it is off the charts, never known anything like it.

Note: the release date has slipped a week to 30 May 2016.

Re: Dissent & Disruption: Alan Clarke at the BBC

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:37 pm
by EddieLarkin
MichaelB wrote:2 x BD50, 9 x BD25 + 2 x DVD9
Presumably the use of so many BD25s is to artificially inflate the size of the set, to help justify the price? A practice I'm completely fine with of course in unique cases like these. Still, that means each layer will be holding an average of around 135 minutes of content before special features, which seems unusually high (assuming the listed 1,980m runtime includes the films which will be DVD only). How many of the main features are video sourced?

Re: Dissent & Disruption: Alan Clarke at the BBC

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 1:50 pm
by dda1996a
So does anyone know a better place to buy this? Moviemail's isn't much cheaper Im afraid even with the coupons compared to Amazon, and Zavvi doesn't ship to where I live.
BTW am I clear to blind buy this? I haven't watched a single Clarke film

Re: Dissent & Disruption: Alan Clarke at the BBC

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:52 pm
by Werewolf by Night
dda1996a wrote:BTW am I clear to blind buy this? I haven't watched a single Clarke film
Do you like British New Wave films like Saturday Night and Sunday Morning, The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner, or This Sporting Life? Much of Clarke's work (at least the more famous work I've been able to see) feels like an extension of that aesthetic, updated to the '70s and '80s. I guess I can easily imagine someone not liking Clarke's work, but I don't feel like they'd have a good reason not to (and I certainly wouldn't want to be friends with them).

Re: Dissent & Disruption: Alan Clarke at the BBC

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:03 pm
by MichaelB
He's also broadly on the same side of the fence as Ken Loach in terms of both left-wing politics and a general fondness for a social-realist approach (although he was capable of far more stylised work than Loach, and his use of the Steadicam in his later films is a stylistic signature uniquely his own), but much tougher and more directly confrontational, with his characters far less inclined to mount obvious soapboxes. And Clarke was also a big influence on Danny Boyle, who was his producer on Elephant before turning to directing himself.

Here's an excerpt from Made in Britain - which is not in the box, but it's the strongest Clarke clip I can find on YouTube. The language is spectacularly NSFW - it's hard to believe that this was broadcast on a mainstream TV channel (even weirder that it was ITV) 33 years ago! It's also an excellent example of another Clarke trademark - extreme sympathy for people normally marginalised or caricatured, in this case a violent neo-Nazi skinhead complete with swastika tattoo. Unbelievably, this was Tim Roth's first performance - Clarke was a phenomenal talent-spotter.

Re: Dissent & Disruption: Alan Clarke at the BBC

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:31 pm
by peerpee
EddieLarkin wrote:
MichaelB wrote:2 x BD50, 9 x BD25 + 2 x DVD9
Presumably the use of so many BD25s is to artificially inflate the size of the set, to help justify the price? A practice I'm completely fine with of course in unique cases like these. Still, that means each layer will be holding an average of around 135 minutes of content before special features, which seems unusually high (assuming the listed 1,980m runtime includes the films which will be DVD only). How many of the main features are video sourced?
The bit budgets on the discs seemed to be changing daily. Those figures may not end up being accurate. I think it's pretty safe to say that nothing was done to "artificially inflate" the size of the set, it was for safety – to allow for more content to be added, which it was. Last week, I think it was 8x BD50s, but even that wasn't locked down.

Re: Dissent & Disruption: Alan Clarke at the BBC

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 3:48 pm
by tenia
I have to admit, if a 13-BD set like this was to contain lots of BD-25, I'd feel a bit "cheated" somehow because I'd tend to think "they put more discs to increase the price" too. However, if it turns out it's not the case and most of these are BD-50, then, problem solved.