33-35, 67-69, 100-102 World Noir
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 7:18 pm
Reminds me how I only got into movies because I was a big fan of Thomas Edison's other invention the lightbulb
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If he had, you may not have gotten Michel Deville! I believe Deville got his start working as an assistant on Decoin's sets.domino harvey wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 7:50 pm I have not seen this film but considering I hated the three Decoin films I have seen, he was probably better served staying in the water
I discovered this maybe two days ago and put it in my queue, weird timingryannichols7 wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 10:05 pm I legitimately had no idea Peter Lorre directed a movie, that shows me!

The Molinaro is okay, the Gabin movie is awful, but it doesn’t matter, we’re getting the Bluwal!domino harvey wrote: Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:18 am Le monte-charge (Marcel Bluwal 1962)
We finally solve the mystery of what happened to Lea Massari in L’avventura— she got picked up by Robert Hossein in a French movie theatre! What happens next and why (or perhaps more correctly, how) in this Christmas-set tale is best left discovered from the film. While it’s hard to discuss in detail when the film's pleasures are best revealed by going in blind, I can safely say that for much of the running time this film made me so uncomfortable in how it relayed an unexpected situation with unerring tension, gave no obvious markers for what would happen next for the totality of the first two acts, and then utterly delighted me in revealing a logical and brilliant explanation for everything that came before. This is an incredible movie, a wonderful noir that develops and maintains a consistent level of dread throughout. Hossein deserves special credit for his performance here— he takes a role that could so easily be misplayed and turns it into a subtle portrayal of a not great guy in a not great situation who maintains the precise right amount of audience sympathy/empathy once things move beyond Le notti bianche territory. And of course Hossein had quite a career behind the camera during this time directing film noirs in addition to starring in them! Not that I’ve really seen that many films yet since the project started, but this is handily the best so far. Highly recommended.
Conversely...
senseabove wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:03 am Razzia sur la chnouf (Henri Decoin, 1955) The third 50s feature in this year's Noir City is a kind of inverse procedural, following, instead of the cops piecing together a drug cartel, Jean Gabin as a mob boss brought in to take over and overhaul one. It's very lightly motivated, just sort of drifting through the entire production line, from the train the raw opium arrives on, to the lab where it's cooked, to the distributors who get it to dealers, to the dives where it's sold and consumed, and the various mobsters who need to take people out or be taken out in the process. The highlight is a sequence of entrancing street-level scenes, carried by a wonderfully broken-down performance from Lila Kedrova, who leads Gabin through a series of shady bars: classy lesbian, upscale dance hall, back-room Arab, divey gay (where a young man gives Gabin the most overt "fuck me, Daddy" eyes I've ever seen in black and white). My first, hesitant instinct is that this deserves to be mentioned alongside Touchez Pas au Grisbi, and I'm very much looking forward to picking up the Kino Lorber release to give it another spin as a double-feature with it.
Did a quick search to see if anyone else has talked about this one, and barryconvex was as enthusiastic about it as I am.
Well, I guess fourth lap was the charm as I quite enjoyed Non coupable. Part of that is because the film goes in the opposite direction a set up like this typically goes, and indeed the film only starts to falter in the last fifteen minutes by almost arbitrarily deciding that Simon must finally feel some form of guilt for what he’s doing. But that turn is an error in construction here, because the great joy of the film when it is working is found in the novel reversal of the detective story— here instead of a detective who figures things out far quicker than anyone possibly could, now we have a murderer who executes perfect murders with the same degree of impromptu and improbable prowess. Guilt or introspection doesn’t enter into it at all, and this is where the interest lies. If this film had ended after the final murder, it might have been a great film (and we’d be spared the moralistic and cheap final gag). As is, it must settle for it being a merely good one. But that is much more than I expected from Decoin, so this is still a big W.domino harvey wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 7:50 pm I have not seen this film but considering I hated the three Decoin films I have seen, he was probably better served staying in the water
Having caught up with it, I enthusiastically agree with your assessment of the film’s noir bonafides— if this is a noir, then so is something like the Song of Bernadette. But I understand “noir” is just marketing these days for home video releases, so I won’t belabor the point. That said, I have to be the dissenting voice on the film, which I hated for the broadness of its performances (everyone the writer meets on his journey is playing to the back rows, especially key roles like the painter) and for the cheap “deep” resolution to the central non-mystery. Perhaps this film would be better served if it did try to show us the fundamental unknowability of those we meet or even think we know in our day to day life, but that’s not ultimately what transpires here. Instead we get fashionable miserablism and an ending twist that reinforces modern mores and what an audience today wants to hear (and the road to get there is occupied by dull scenes and scenarios and, again, bad acting). Hard pass from me, though, unfortunately.Red Screamer wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:41 am I love Girl with Hyacinths (as twbblus’ link attests) but — and I feel like I say this once a week now — it’s not really a noir, just a dark melodrama. Though in its Swedish way, it’s quite a bit bleaker than many classic noirs, so I imagine many viewers will get their feelbad money’s worth anyhow.
I had Paris Pick-Up (Le Monte-Charge) lined up for a while to watch near Christmas, and while it delivered on the Christmas trappings, I wasn’t prepared for the kind of film it was. As Domino says, in the interest of not spoiling anything, it’s difficult to describe in any depth, but let’s just say that it’s a noir in the same way that Vertigo and Mulholland Dr are noirs. I’m surprised it didn’t get a standalone release.domino harvey wrote:My god, they did it! If I had a list, this would have been one of my top ten most wanted subbed French films on disc, so this is obviously news of the year for me
The Molinaro is okay, the Gabin movie is awful, but it doesn’t matter, we’re getting the Bluwal!domino harvey wrote: We finally solve the mystery of what happened to Lea Massari in L’avventura— she got picked up by Robert Hossein in a French movie theatre! What happens next and why (or perhaps more correctly, how) in this Christmas-set tale is best left discovered from the film. While it’s hard to discuss in detail when the film's pleasures are best revealed by going in blind, I can safely say that for much of the running time this film made me so uncomfortable in how it relayed an unexpected situation with unerring tension, gave no obvious markers for what would happen next for the totality of the first two acts, and then utterly delighted me in revealing a logical and brilliant explanation for everything that came before. This is an incredible movie, a wonderful noir that develops and maintains a consistent level of dread throughout. Hossein deserves special credit for his performance here— he takes a role that could so easily be misplayed and turns it into a subtle portrayal of a not great guy in a not great situation who maintains the precise right amount of audience sympathy/empathy once things move beyond Le notti bianche territory. And of course Hossein had quite a career behind the camera during this time directing film noirs in addition to starring in them! Not that I’ve really seen that many films yet since the project started, but this is handily the best so far. Highly recommended.
Hoping to get this for Christmas, so will keep that in mind!reaky wrote: Sun Dec 14, 2025 9:11 amI had Paris Pick-Up (Le Monte-Charge) lined up for a while to watch near Christmas, and while it delivered on the Christmas trappings, I wasn’t prepared for the kind of film it was. As Domino says, in the interest of not spoiling anything, it’s difficult to describe in any depth, but let’s just say that it’s a noir in the same way that Vertigo and Mulholland Dr are noirs. I’m surprised it didn’t get a standalone release.domino harvey wrote:My god, they did it! If I had a list, this would have been one of my top ten most wanted subbed French films on disc, so this is obviously news of the year for me
The Molinaro is okay, the Gabin movie is awful, but it doesn’t matter, we’re getting the Bluwal!domino harvey wrote: We finally solve the mystery of what happened to Lea Massari in L’avventura— she got picked up by Robert Hossein in a French movie theatre! What happens next and why (or perhaps more correctly, how) in this Christmas-set tale is best left discovered from the film. While it’s hard to discuss in detail when the film's pleasures are best revealed by going in blind, I can safely say that for much of the running time this film made me so uncomfortable in how it relayed an unexpected situation with unerring tension, gave no obvious markers for what would happen next for the totality of the first two acts, and then utterly delighted me in revealing a logical and brilliant explanation for everything that came before. This is an incredible movie, a wonderful noir that develops and maintains a consistent level of dread throughout. Hossein deserves special credit for his performance here— he takes a role that could so easily be misplayed and turns it into a subtle portrayal of a not great guy in a not great situation who maintains the precise right amount of audience sympathy/empathy once things move beyond Le notti bianche territory. And of course Hossein had quite a career behind the camera during this time directing film noirs in addition to starring in them! Not that I’ve really seen that many films yet since the project started, but this is handily the best so far. Highly recommended.
Agreed on all this: it's a superb film. It unfolds like a weird dream that you know will turn out to be some kind of a trap, but, like Hossein's character, you have to stick it out because you need to solve the puzzle. The film plays absolutely fair by keeping our level of knowledge exactly the same as Hossein's throughout, which makes him a great focal character even though he's not especially prepossessing.domino harvey wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 10:38 am My god, they did it! If I had a list, this would have been one of my top ten most wanted subbed French films on disc, so this is obviously news of the year for me
The Molinaro is okay, the Gabin movie is awful, but it doesn’t matter, we’re getting the Bluwal!domino harvey wrote: Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:18 am Le monte-charge (Marcel Bluwal 1962)
We finally solve the mystery of what happened to Lea Massari in L’avventura— she got picked up by Robert Hossein in a French movie theatre! What happens next and why (or perhaps more correctly, how) in this Christmas-set tale is best left discovered from the film. While it’s hard to discuss in detail when the film's pleasures are best revealed by going in blind, I can safely say that for much of the running time this film made me so uncomfortable in how it relayed an unexpected situation with unerring tension, gave no obvious markers for what would happen next for the totality of the first two acts, and then utterly delighted me in revealing a logical and brilliant explanation for everything that came before. This is an incredible movie, a wonderful noir that develops and maintains a consistent level of dread throughout. Hossein deserves special credit for his performance here— he takes a role that could so easily be misplayed and turns it into a subtle portrayal of a not great guy in a not great situation who maintains the precise right amount of audience sympathy/empathy once things move beyond Le notti bianche territory. And of course Hossein had quite a career behind the camera during this time directing film noirs in addition to starring in them! Not that I’ve really seen that many films yet since the project started, but this is handily the best so far. Highly recommended.