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Re: Awards Season 2009
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:39 pm
by foofighters7
Fuck the Academy
I have always loved the Oscars. I can remember back to about 5 years old watching it.
I have always put the Academy Awards on a higher level, as if they 'got it' better than other awards.
Screw them for nominating this piece of shit Avatar for Best Picture! Shame on everyone who has anything to do with nominations!
Up was nominated too! What the hell? The Blind Side? What the HELL?
Hollywood has become a den of idiots and self-obsessed bastards who barely even watch films, let alone know anything about film.
Screw them, Fuck the Academy, Go to hell you pieces of shit!
At least I'm not bitter.
Re: Awards Season 2009
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:41 pm
by Kirkinson
J Adams wrote:The only real (slight) competition is Clooney but Oscar knows that this may be Bridges' last chance.
I agree that Bridges is a lock, but why do you think it may be his last chance? He's not on his death bed or anything, and he's still widely respected, gets pretty good roles and does a great job in all of them. In fact, he probably has a pretty decent chance at another nomination next year for
True Grit.
Re: Awards Season 2009
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:53 pm
by aox
foofighters7 wrote:Fuck the Academy
I have always loved the Oscars. I can remember back to about 5 years old watching it.
I have always put the Academy Awards on a higher level, as if they 'got it' better than other awards.
Screw them for nominating this piece of shit Avatar for Best Picture! Shame on everyone who has anything to do with nominations!
Up was nominated too! What the hell? The Blind Side? What the HELL?
Hollywood has become a den of idiots and self-obsessed bastards who barely even watch films, let alone know anything about film.
Screw them, Fuck the Academy, Go to hell you pieces of shit!
At least I'm not bitter.
In 2005, a movie called
Crash won Best Picture....just sayin'
Re: Awards Season 2009
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:00 pm
by domino harvey
Kirkinson wrote: In fact, he probably has a pretty decent chance at another nomination next year for True Grit.
How hilarious would it be for two actors to win a career achievement award for the same undeserved performance?
Re: Awards Season 2009
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:07 pm
by eljacko
aox wrote:In 2005, a movie called Crash won Best Picture....just sayin'
Incidentally, 2005 was the year I stopped watching the Oscars, and the year I stopped caring about the awards beyond my basic interest in movies.
Crash winning was the destruction of my innocence, in a way, the moment I realized how naive I was.
Re: Awards Season 2009
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:08 pm
by domino harvey
American Beauty and Slumdog Millionaire were equally embarrassing, FYI
Re: Awards Season 2009
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:11 pm
by Fiery Angel
And Braveheart and Titanic and Shakespeare in Love and Chicago and....
Re: Awards Season 2009
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:12 pm
by domino harvey
But Shakespeare in Love beat Saving Private Ryan, so that was a good one
Re: Awards Season 2009
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:16 pm
by Fiery Angel
It also prevented Life Is Beautiful from winning, but it also beat out The Thin Red Line
Re: Awards Season 2009
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:17 pm
by domino harvey
Fiery Angel wrote:It also prevented Life Is Beautiful from winning
Which I believe means it actually qualifies for sainthood too
Re: Awards Season 2009
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:20 pm
by Caged Horse
Yes, Avatar has terrible dialogue and OTT acting, but has anybody (re)watched The Last Emperor recently? Gorgeous-looking for sure and arguably a logistically unprecedented production, but bloody hell -- the painfully obvious script, the really hammy performances! (Sound familiar?)
Sad fact is, Oscars get given to badly-written-and-acted epics, just so long as their mushy heart's in the right, well-meaning place. (See also: Dances with Wolves.)
On the other hand, Avatar's incredible SFX, which will doubtless win every technical award, might not automatically be an advantage when it comes to the top prize. The Jazz Singer, Becky Sharp, The Robe, etc -- technologically innovative and revolutionary in their day and some very popular, but none won Best Picture.
Re: Awards Season 2009
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:00 pm
by lacritfan
Fiery Angel wrote:It also prevented Life Is Beautiful from winning, but it also beat out The Thin Red Line
Ugh, don't remind me of Life Is Beautiful at the Oscars. Roberto Benigni winning Best Foreign Film from Sophia Loren and climbing over seats - fine. It also won Grand Prize of the Jury at Cannes from a Scorsese-led jury, so fine.
But, Roberto Benigni winning Best Actor over :
Nick Nolte - Affliction
Edward Norton - American History X
Ian McKellen - Gods and Monsters
Tom Hanks - Saving Private Ryan
is one of the worst Oscars ever given, especially if the rumors that Benigni did the most campaigning is true.
domino harvey wrote:But Shakespeare in Love beat Saving Private Ryan, so that was a good one
I have to respectfully disagree here. This was the epitome of campaigning winning the award. SiL with it's dozen producers including Harvey Weinstein pushing his way onto the list is responsible for the three person limit the Oscars have now that probably cost a few deserving producers some recongition over the past decade. So no, not a good one.
Re: Awards Season 2009
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:38 pm
by domino harvey
The Reader, Chocolat, and Cider House Rules Best Pic noms were far more embarrassing, I thought. In fact, just typing these titles out just now sent me into a bit of a tizzy
Re: Awards Season 2009
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:46 pm
by Grand Illusion
I don't think the Academy has ever awarded Best Picture to the film that I actually thought was the best picture that year (let alone best American picture.)
Nonetheless, I still like most of the stuff that wins Best Pic. As long as they don't give it to a picture that I hate, such as Crash, Slumdog, or Avatar, then I find it hard to get frustrated.
Re: Awards Season 2009
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:03 am
by RobertB
When someone takes the Oscars too seriously I try to remember which films have received the most. 11 Oscars go to..... Ben-Hur, Titanic, The Return of the King

Hollywood at it's best?
Re: Awards Season 2009
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:09 am
by domino harvey
Grand Illusion wrote:I don't think the Academy has ever awarded Best Picture to the film that I actually thought was the best picture that year (let alone best American picture.)
The Apartment?
Re: Awards Season 2009
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:16 am
by reno dakota
Grand Illusion wrote:I don't think the Academy has ever awarded Best Picture to the film that I actually thought was the best picture that year (let alone best American picture.)
All Quiet on the Western Front? (Best American, at least?)
Re: Awards Season 2009
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:27 am
by Michael
Grand Illusion wrote:I don't think the Academy has ever awarded Best Picture to the film that I actually thought was the best picture that year (let alone best American picture.)
.
All About Eve, no?
Re: Awards Season 2009
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:40 am
by reno dakota
Michael wrote:All About Eve, no?
If not for
Orphée and
In a Lonely Place, then sure!
Re: Awards Season 2009
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:52 am
by Grand Illusion
Oh, dear. What have I done? I don't want to make this all about my personal picks. Although, of course, that'd make this whole process much easier if I, alone, was sole arbiter.
Re: The Apartment
I have to cop to not being the biggest Wilder fan. I much prefer this to Sunset Blvd, but I'd still take Psycho over it. Even The Magnificent Seven. And in a year with Bergman, Fellini, and (probably my top pick) Antonioni, this is further down my list.
Re: All Quiet On The Western Front
Hmmm... Okay. I'm cool with this one, actually. Checked out some 1930 lists, and I don't think I'm missing anything I liked more. I'll amend my statement to the Academy not agreeing with me for Best Pic in the past 80 years. Before that is fair game.
Re: All About Eve
Certainly not counting foreign films as well. Orphee, as mentioned, and Rashomon. Only American? I really don't know. I'll be honest and say that I'm not terribly informed on the '50s Hollywood output. Even In A Lonely Place irks me. I couldn't really get past Bogie as a screenwriter.
Re: Awards Season 2009
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:10 am
by foofighters7
aox wrote:foofighters7 wrote:Fuck the Academy
I have always loved the Oscars. I can remember back to about 5 years old watching it.
I have always put the Academy Awards on a higher level, as if they 'got it' better than other awards.
Screw them for nominating this piece of shit Avatar for Best Picture! Shame on everyone who has anything to do with nominations!
Up was nominated too! What the hell? The Blind Side? What the HELL?
Hollywood has become a den of idiots and self-obsessed bastards who barely even watch films, let alone know anything about film.
Screw them, Fuck the Academy, Go to hell you pieces of shit!
At least I'm not bitter.
In 2005, a movie called
Crash won Best Picture....just sayin'
Hehe... Was it you or someone else who posted a quote of mine and said they too agree and said they gave up on the AA's a few years back?
Someone posted that, then it was gone a minute later..
funny because, I was posting a reply to whoever said that by saying "Yeah I know, I pretty much gave up when 'Crash' won!!
just came back to this thread and that was the first reply to it, mentioning Crash!
I am still amazed as to how it won anything?
Having said that, I don't know which is worse, Avatar or...no nevermind its Avartar.
Re: Awards Season 2009
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:49 am
by NilbogSavant
Grand Illusion wrote:I don't think the Academy has ever awarded Best Picture to the film that I actually thought was the best picture that year (let alone best American picture.)
How Green Was My Valley is the only example I can ever think of.
Re: Awards Season 2009
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:53 am
by justeleblanc
Sunrise also won best picture, no? That movie is sorta kinda the best movie ever made.
Re: Awards Season 2009
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:08 am
by reno dakota
justeleblanc wrote:Sunrise also won best picture, no? That movie is sorta kinda the best movie ever made.
Sunrise won in the
Unique and Artistic Picture category (which was never again awarded), while
Wings won in the
Outstanding Picture category (which eventually morphed into the Best Picture category). So, technically,
Sunrise did not win Best Picture, but I think it ought to be mentioned alongside
Wings when the 1927-28 winners are discussed. It is one of the Academy's finest winners, in any category.
Re: Awards Season 2009
Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:45 pm
by Caged Horse
lacritfan wrote: Ugh, don't remind me of Life Is Beautiful at the Oscars. Roberto Benigni winning Best Foreign Film from Sophia Loren and climbing over seats - fine. It also won Grand Prize of the Jury at Cannes from a Scorsese-led jury, so fine.
This is the same Cannes Film Festival that gave 1st prize to
The Knack... and How to Get it. Far from fine.
Oscar's errors are many and various -- while we're on the subject, I'll mention the inaugural Best Animated Feature going to
Shrek instead of
Monsters Inc. -- but it's not like other awards are infallible.