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Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:37 pm
by zedz
I don't know if any of those are quite so urgent a recovery project as Yellow Earth. Has that ever had a decent home video release? For such a seminal film, it's certainly disappeared pretty thoroughly. How about a Fifth Generation box including that, Red Sorghum and Horse Thief, for a start?
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:15 am
by Shrew
I think the problem is that so many of the 80s Chinese films had complicated financial backing from different sources, which complicates the rights issues for home release. Same trouble with 80s Taiwan films. By the 90s Zhang and Chen had enough of a cache to get regular distribution, hence the better availability and quality (save perhaps poor Ju Dou), even if the extras are nil.
But a decent release is a nice dream. (I'd also love a good release of Platform, complete with the longer original cut, but I'm not Tim Tebow.)
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:52 am
by Numero Trois
stroszeck wrote:Any chance of a boxset, (at this point I would even take an Eclipse set) of Raise the Red Lantern, The Story of Qiu Ju, Ju Duo and Red Sorghum? Zhang Yimou's chinese films are shockingly underrated
Yes, that would be great. But is he underrated? Twenty years ago he was regularly in conversation as one of the top directors worldwide.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:32 am
by Wu.Qinghua
zedz wrote:I don't know if any of those are quite so urgent a recovery project as Yellow Earth. Has that ever had a decent home video release?
I don't think so. As far as I remember Yellow Earth has only been released without subtitles in China some years ago. But there's at least a new DVD release of Zhang's 'Red Sorghum' which came out last year in Germany and which, as far as I remember, is pretty decent although it's not english-friendly.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:08 pm
by stroszeck
Yes I still consider him to be underrated, and he's certainly not a household name at this point. Underrated and underseen in particular are those late 80s early 90s pieces, not the recent....er, i hate to say it but Crouching Tiger wannabe glossy epics he's been churning out (although I know many many people love those). I miss the beauty of Gong Li's performances in those movies, and certainly Ju Dou and Red Sorghum should be at least available in pristine prints if only to provide a context for his later work for both cinephiles and the masses to appreciate. Remember, in the early 90s he was THE director of Chinese dramas (maybe one of the few handful whose films were regularly shown in arthouse American theaters), and its strange to see those films are largely ignored on home video.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:23 pm
by ptatler
(Courtesy of
iTunes.)
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:43 pm
by CSM126
I NEVER WOULD HAVE GUESSED THAT WAS GOING TO BE A CRITERION
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:44 pm
by ptatler
CSM126 wrote:I NEVER WOULD HAVE GUESSED THAT WAS GOING TO BE A CRITERION
I KNOW. SHOCKING.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:13 pm
by zeroman987
I was disappointed with Le Havre. I love both of the Eclipse sets but for whatever reason Le Havre never felt right outside of a couple scenes (the refugee camp scene for example). The tone of the film did not really fit the story is the only way I feel like I can put it into words. Anyone else have the feeling?
Maybe it was because I saw it on one of the worst dates ever and my feelings about the woman I saw it with bled through to the movie.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:14 pm
by Matt
Grey Gardens blu upgrade coming,
per the newsletter.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:37 pm
by duck duck
I may be really late on this one but in regards to the New Year's picture, the two tiered car carrier is also an "Eating Raoul" reference.
It's actually a major plot point and leads to the eating of Raoul
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:24 pm
by stroszeck
By the way, with the recent highly successful retrospective of his work at the Film Forum, are we set to see any of the newly restored Bresson's enter the collection soon?
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:58 pm
by FerdinandGriffon
L'argent had the Janus logo in front. And it's about time for Proces de Jeanne d'Arc.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:26 pm
by jwd5275
FerdinandGriffon wrote:L'argent had the Janus logo in front. And it's about time for Proces de Jeanne d'Arc.
In the Berkeley BAM/PFA Bresson series, L'argent, Le Proces de Jeanne d'Arc, and A Man Escaped are all listed as coming from Janus and Lancelot of the Lake is listed as coming from Gaumont, so it also is a possibility. The Devil Probably is listed as coming from Film Desk and Olive films.
Les anges du péché, Une femme douce, and Four Nights of a Dreamer are presented by names that I am not familiar with (...or in the case of Une femme douce, nobody at all).
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:42 pm
by Gregory
Four Nights of a Dreamer says "permission Gian Vittorio Baldi." Anyone know what this might imply about a possible release on disc?
He was a producer of the film, so could the rights be negotiated with him?
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:46 pm
by zedz
jwd5275 wrote: (...or in the case of Une femme douce, nobody at all).
I don't know if things have changed, but it used to be that you could only obtain this film by going through Mylene (and meeting with her personal approval). Which is why it's so hard to see.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:56 am
by stroszeck
Crap, I only had enough time to attend either a screening of Devil Probably or Une Femme Douce and I chose the former....wish they would've screened the latter for one extra week....
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:37 am
by duck duck
a woman washes?
Une femme douce
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:15 am
by Jeff
duck duck wrote:a woman washes?
Une femme douce
You are mixing up douce and douche. Douce means soft or gentle.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:33 pm
by colinr0380
Also as in Truffaut's La peau douce/The Soft Skin
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:00 pm
by nolanoe
Argh, posted this in the wrong thread... here goes:
How big are the chances we'll see HEAVEN'S GATE from Criterion in 2012?
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:24 pm
by Brian C
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:04 pm
by JPJ
"Chances are slim and none and slim just left town."(Rudy Ray Moore)
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:12 pm
by swo17
Actually, some people think they saw it in the blurry 2012 clue photo Criterion posted on Facebook last year, but only time will tell if they're right.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:28 pm
by nolanoe
So in other words - no word at all. Or do we know Criterion is onto this one?
That's all I want to know, as I am unsure whether or not to buy the DirCut DVD which, really, looks abysmal judging from single frames.