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Re: Passages
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:39 am
by Grand Illusion
Good bye. Nothing to make you think about your own mortality like the death of a prominent atheist thinker. Now, I'm depressed.
Re: Passages
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:30 pm
by dx23
This is really sad news to wake up to. Like many of you, I really loved his debates on religion. Today we lost one of the good ones.
Re: Passages
Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:47 am
by perkizitore
Re: Passages
Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:58 pm
by kinjitsu
Re: Passages
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:57 am
by MichaelB
Václav Havel - only a few months after
his film directing debut, though of course his wider cultural influence on his native country is pretty much incalculable.
Re: Passages
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 2:50 pm
by Minkin
MichaelB wrote:Václav Havel
Rather sad. I'll remember him best for
Citizen Vaclav Havel goes on vacation
Re: Passages
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:40 pm
by jbeall
Havel and Masaryk tower over the Czech twentieth century. Havel was flawed man (who isn't?), but an utterly remarkable man, too. He's pretty much the opposite of every politician we have in the US.
I imagine the state funeral will draw crowds that rival even the legendary turnout for Masaryk's funeral.
Re: Passages
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:50 pm
by colinr0380
During some interviews on the BBC News earlier there was some discussion of the way that Havel was on 'shakier ground in the modern era of realpolitik'. I think that they meant it as a criticism but it actually seemed like quite a compliment!
Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:14 am
by mfunk9786
Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:23 am
by knives
Have I just been 'rick-rolled'?
Edit:
Legit news source
Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:35 am
by mfunk9786
Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:24 am
by Cinephrenic
Expect war anytime.
Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:44 am
by Saturnome
Who's going to look at things now?
And now maybe a 27(?) years old dictator will help the country go over the communist-bloc synth disco it's stuck in.
Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:32 am
by Duncan Hopper
Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:35 am
by Polybius
At least Havel's safe from ever being visited by Norman Podhoretz again.
Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:45 am
by MichaelB
Saturnome wrote:Who's going to look at things now?
Kim Jong-Un.
And now maybe a 27(?) years old dictator will help the country go over the communist-bloc synth disco it's stuck in.
Or maybe not. Since China has a very strong interest in North Korea remaining as a functioning entity (since they neither want a flood of refugees over the border or a unified and US-backed Seoul-run Korea), the chances are very strong indeed that next to nothing will happen.
I remember when Kim Jong-Il took over in 1994, to the same speculation about reform. If anything, he's been far worse than his father.
Obviously, I've rarely been keener to be proved wrong, but pessimism would seem to be the sensible reaction for now.
Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:30 am
by Saturnome
I meant
the actual music if I wasn't clear. I don't think anything else will happen. Except spend whatever 2$ is left in their bank for some gigantic funerals.
Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:35 am
by colinr0380
Come on everyone, lets get to the real issues - what might become of his reputedly enormous collection of films?
Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:02 am
by MichaelB
Sky News had a rather effective bit of editing - they showed the puppet Kim Jong-Il singing "I'm so ronery" for just long enough for us to have a good laugh, and then cut to visibly starving North Korean children. Which made the point that he really wasn't that funny better than any number of finger-wagging verbal lectures.
That said, I'd have preferred it if my six-year-old daughter hadn't been in the room at the time.
Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:01 pm
by ellipsis7
Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:20 pm
by MyNameCriterionForum
Wait, which Kardashian was he married to again?
Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:48 pm
by Antares
Re: Passages
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:24 pm
by whaleallright
There's more to Kim Jong-Il's cinema connection than his huge video collection.
He also had one of South Korea's major directors kidnapped, so that he could make films that would earn North Korea glory. Here's an excerpt from one of the movies he made there, before escaping his handlers in Europe.
Re: Passages
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:01 am
by yoshimori
The greatest director of the past thirty years --
Morita Yoshimitsu -- has died at age 61.
Re: Passages
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:12 pm
by Michael Kerpan
I was surprised at how young Morita was -- I always assumed he was a good bit older than I was....
Only moderately liked his work, but still a very sad thing.
I'm still grieving the loss of Shinji Somai (who died too young over 10 years ago) and Jun Ichikawa (who died too young 3 years ago).