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Do Martin Scorsese's Personal Journey Through American Movies and My Voyage to Italy qualify?

scotty wrote:Do Martin Scorsese's Personal Journey Through American Movies and My Voyage to Italy qualify?

"My voyage to Italy" is great but I believe that it does not count as a feature film since more than 95% of the films are comprised of footage of the works of the 5 great Italian directors. A collection of great works from Rosellini, De Sica, Visconti, Antonioni, and Fellini will easily push it to #1 ranking of the 90s list, or even possibly the greatest movie of all time.

So does that disqualify Godard's Histoire(s) du cinéma?

I think either Scorsese doc should qualify for inclusion. Even if they use footage from other films, Scorsese is using the footage in a different context and for different purposes. The work thus becomes a distinct entity of its own, very much separate from the works of the directors he is referencing.

Personal Journey Through American Movies and My Voyage to Italy are absolutely eligible. So is Histoire(s) du Cinema.

I have a question about Histoire(s) du Cinema since I've never seen it. According to IMDB, it comes in pieces so should all the pieces be counted separately or should Histoire(s) du Cinema be counted as whole? I recieved a list that listed just Une Vague Nouvelle which is a part of Histoire(s) du Cinema.

Michael wrote:I have a question about Histoire(s) du Cinema since I've never seen it. According to IMDB, it comes in pieces so should all the pieces be counted separately or should Histoire(s) du Cinema be counted as whole? I recieved a list that listed just Une Vague Nouvelle which is a part of Histoire(s) du Cinema.

Is that different from Godard's Nouvelle Vague? Nouvelle Vague is definitely a film on its own.

I did a bit research. Lets treat Histoire(s) du Cinema (1997-98) as a whole and Godard also did a film called Nouvelle Vague (1990) which is to be treated as a different film.

BLASPHEMY!......Where is SANTA SANGRE?!!!!!!!!!

stroszeck wrote:BLASPHEMY!......Where is SANTA SANGRE?!!!!!!!!!

I only wish I knew what religion the blasphemy was against.

You have two more weeks from today to submit your 90s list.

Up to now:

myself, pauling, flyonthewall2983, yoshimori, kieslowski_67, lord_clyde

Also many new "vote-for" films added to the list on the previous page.

For your consideration:

Beau Travail

Please.

I will try to lobby for:

Techine's "Wild Reeds"

There is a reason that this film was able to beat out a masterpiece like "Three colors: Red" for the top honor at the Cesars in early 1995. It's truly a remarkable film, and Studio Canal gets two thumbs up for providing a pristine transfer of this marvelous film.

kieslowsk_67, thanks for reminding me about Wild Reeds. I will check it out sometime this weekend.

And before I shut up, please also consider "The Double Life of Veronique".

The movie has been released on DVD in Italy. MK2 2D9 version is coming next February. For those who vote for "three colors", please also consider "double life of Veronique".

Haven't seen Wild Reeds yet, and unfortunately, I probably won't have time to before the lists are due. Hopefully I can catch Thieves though.

backstreetsbackalright wrote:Haven't seen Wild Reeds yet, and unfortunately, I probably won't have time to before the lists are due. Hopefully I can catch Thieves though.

Techine made 3 master films in the 90s, and wild reeds>thieves>my favorite season.

Also want to make a special recommendation on his rarely seen "J'embrasse pas". Wonderful character development. Got to see Beart play a sultry prostitute. The ending is powerful and truly unfogettable.

Michael wrote:For your consideration:

Beau Travail

I'm seriously considering it and I think I will try and watch it again before handing in my list. Check out The Work of Director: Jonathan Glazer - I kept wondering when watching Beau Travail why Denis Lavant looked so familiar and found out why seeing him in the Stella Artois Jean de Florette-styled ads and the Radiohead video! It seemed that for a few years you couldn't get away from those adverts on UK television!

colinr0380 wrote:I kept wondering when watching Beau Travail why Denis Lavant looked so familiar and found out why seeing him in the Stella Artois Jean de Florette-styled ads and the Radiohead video! It seemed that for a few years you couldn't get away from those adverts on UK television!

At this very moment, we can't esacpe them in Seattle (and maybe the rest of the States - I dunno). Landmark Theaters presently run them before almost every feature.

*looking at the music videos listed so far that have been voted*

No "November Rain"???

flyonthewall2983 wrote:No "November Rain"???

There were moments when I actually considered it. I do have very powerful memories of it, I'm not ashamed to admit, but it's far too overwrought to justify serious consideration on my list in the here and now. Unlike Express Yourself (which I can't stop mentioning made my 80s list). Björk figures heavily in my 90s list considerations. Both Bachelorette and All Is Full Of Love are gloriously realized music videos that bring much to the table not contained in the song's themselves. Really I seperate those music videos (music + video, not just the visual aspect) from the songs they promoted.

backstreetsbackalright wrote: I do have very powerful memories of it, I'm not ashamed to admit ...

I'm not ashamed to admit I have powerful memories of Stephanie Seymour's legs.

I'm a bit surprised Radiohead's Karma Police and Just haven't been mentioned at all. Surprised, but not shocked.

There are a few Nine Inch Nails I could think of too, Closer and The Perfect Drug would be perfect choices.

The two music videos on my list at the moment (things change fast around here) are The Chemical Brothers' "Let Forever Be" (Michel Gondry) and Brian Eno's "Ali Click" (Lefdup / Flash / Eno). I guess I must have been frightened by a kaleidoscope as a small child.

zedz wrote:The two music videos on my list at the moment (things change fast around here) are The Chemical Brothers' "Let Forever Be" (Michel Gondry) and Brian Eno's "Ali Click" (Lefdup / Flash / Eno). I guess I must have been frightened by a kaleidoscope as a small child.

I'm not familiar with the Eno video, but I love Eno. What's it like?

Looking at the titles voted for so far, I am a little stunned that none of the Wallace & Gromit shorts are on there. I was trying to limit myself to just one of them and it seems that, going just on the submitted lists, no one else feels any are worthy.

souvenir wrote:Looking at the titles voted for so far, I am a little stunned that none of the Wallace & Gromit shorts are on there. I was trying to limit myself to just one of them and it seems that, going just on the submitted lists, no one else feels any are worthy.

A good point well raised. To the contributors' defense(s), those films are so timeless that it's difficult to remember that they emerged from a particular decade. I forgot about them myself....