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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:07 pm
by therewillbeblus
I could see a Desperate Living release, which is probably the last one I'd really want. Hairspray would be the obvious choice to sell well.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:00 pm
by dda1996a
Please no Desperate Living. One of the worst movies I've ever seen. Which fits almost all the other Waters films ive seen
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:06 pm
by swo17
If you wanted to hurt his feelings, you'd have called it one of the best movies you've ever seen
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:19 pm
by therewillbeblus
If you don't like Waters, you don't like Waters, and that's hardly something anybody can hold against you! I'm mixed on his work and any pleasures I find in them are because they hit an Achilles' heal of ridiculous humor and a satirical embrace of the moral model against marginalized populations, made by those populations, that is so cheeky and self-aware in its absurdity I can't help but be amused. Multiple Maniacs is far and away by favorite, which is not an opinion I hear often, and while Desperate Living is hardly going to win you over if you haven't liked Waters' other work, the opening 5-10 minutes are so insane in their social inappropriate commentary, that this chunk is on the shortlist of his directorial highlights.
I had the pleasure of seeing the new restoration of Multiple Maniacs at the Coolidge Corner theatre a few years ago and watch at least half the theatre walk out at various intervals. This was the restoration shown just a month or so after Chimes at Midnight so the regular Janus/Criterion typically elderly crowd probably saw the company and went in blind, which is likely something they never did again.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:30 pm
by senseabove
Looks like Criterion picked up rights to
Jane B. par Agnes V. after the Cinelicious disc went OoP:
https://www.sfmoma.org/event/jane-b-par-agnes-v/
Presumably they also picked up Kung-Fu Master, though it is (not very surprisingly) absent from both institutions participating in that retrospective.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:31 pm
by kcota17
At long last, Come and See has been added to Janus’s website.
http://www.janusfilms.com/films/1968
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:36 pm
by TwoTecs
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:38 pm
by therewillbeblus
Those stills look absolutely stunning
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:43 pm
by black&huge
Come and See, Great Escape and hopeful for After Hours, Chungking Express and Pierrot le Fou reissues, Eyes Wide Shut and a Fellini box.... Criterion 2020 could be absolutely insane
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:46 pm
by TwoTecs
Hopefully Warner does Eyes Wide Shut. They did the 4K restoration for it.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:10 pm
by swo17
black&huge wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:43 pm
Come and See, Great Escape and hopeful for After Hours, Chungking Express and Pierrot le Fou reissues, Eyes Wide Shut and a Fellini box.... Criterion 2020 could be absolutely insane
Frankly I'm a lot more excited for Indicator to release a bunch of films I've never heard of before
Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:39 pm
by FrauBlucher
Now folks can start guessing Come and See each month
I can’t wait to see all the Fellini 4k restorations. Juliet of the Spirits should look magnificent
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:01 am
by Luke M
TwoTecs wrote:Hopefully Warner does Eyes Wide Shut. They did the 4K restoration for it.
Being able to get $10 4K releases on Black Friday hasn't quite made me a converter but I think I'd prefer a Warner 4K to a Criterion blu-ray.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:17 pm
by jedgeco
Luke M wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:01 am
TwoTecs wrote:Hopefully Warner does Eyes Wide Shut. They did the 4K restoration for it.
Being able to get $10 4K releases on Black Friday hasn't quite made me a converter but I think I'd prefer a Warner 4K to a Criterion blu-ray.
At last count I'd purchased Eyes Wide Shut in 5 different releases, so, sure, a 4K disc, why not?
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:54 am
by barryconvex
senseabove wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:30 pm
Looks like Criterion picked up rights to
Jane B. par Agnes V. after the Cinelicious disc went OoP:
https://www.sfmoma.org/event/jane-b-par-agnes-v/
Presumably they also picked up Kung-Fu Master, though it is (not very surprisingly) absent from both institutions participating in that retrospective.
Great news! Even though I own the Cinelicious blu I'm always happy when Criterion adds more Varda. Hopefully they obtained the rights to
Kung-Fu Master, one of her best films and maybe the best film ever about an adult woman smitten with a teenage boy.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:11 pm
by FrauBlucher
This was Eddie Muller's reply to someone on twitter when they were tweeting about Disney holding back the Fox catalog from theaters.
eddie muller wrote:It gives Disney a huge catalog from which to pull remakes while burying the original films. Not kidding. I know writers and directors who have been approached to “pick a project from the catalog.” For a new generation, the original will not be available for comparison.
Makes me think that Fox, before Disney deal was finalized, may have licensed titles out to Criterion that they may not have been licensed out before. Such as
All About Eve. Hoping there are other significant titles otherwise once the Fox discs disappear so will the films, unless Criterion has them.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:15 pm
by domino harvey
This is how Hollywood worked ~80 years ago: release the remake, bury the original (keep in mind the 1932 Jekyll & Hyde was once thought lost because MGM destroyed every copy when they released the 1940s version). Absolutely horrifying prospect, especially given the vastness and richness of the Fox studio era catalog
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:53 pm
by FrauBlucher
Oh yeah, that's true, never thought about that. Scary
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:25 pm
by soundchaser
Looks like the Salesman page has been updated with some HD pictures and a new clip.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:29 pm
by agnamaracs
domino harvey wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:15 pm
This is how Hollywood worked ~80 years ago: release the remake, bury the original (keep in mind the 1932
Jekyll & Hyde was once thought lost because MGM destroyed every copy when they released the 1940s version).
Ditto
Gaslight, and RKO tried to erase
Le jour se leve in favor of
The Long Night. It's an absolutely frightening prospect that a major corporation can, and may, hold our cultural heritage hostage. But hey, Disney's gotta make that money somehow, right?
Maybe they can remake Star Wars and end the version debate once and for all...
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:34 pm
by phoenix474
soundchaser wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:25 pm
Looks like the
Salesman page has been updated with some HD pictures and a new clip.
Also mentions of a new transfer, new extras and a new cover
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:38 pm
by Never Cursed
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:01 pm
by FrauBlucher
Wow. What a month! And Leave Her to Heaven out of the blue. This confirms the Fox vaults have opened wide to Criterion. The only question is who do we have to thank, Fox before the sale or Disney after.
Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:06 pm
by movielocke
missed opportunity on Leave Her to Heaven to maybe talk about the restoration / history of Fox junking their color negatives.
On the other hand, this license may predate the Disney acquisition, and Disney no longer issues approvals on bonus content, of titles licensed out before their takeover, so it was this or nothin. Maybe they'll drop the price to 29.95 and 19.95 since it's basically a bare bones release?
or the license is gonna expire quick and they had to get it out now, with no time for bonus content creation?
Unrelated, this is the first month I can remember where I have already seen all the new releases.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:27 pm
by Minkin
Settle on in, cause the Speculation Rodeo is showing up early this time! (March 2020 edition)
Bamboozled - 2019 New Years clue (bamboo sled beats Kane sled this time)
The Prince of Tides - May 2019 newsletter clue + also a laserdisc title
Show Boat - Speculated as a potential WB grab, former laserdisc title + I noticed the Criterion commentary was included with the TCM broadcast awhile ago
Leave Her to Heaven - A complete surprise!
The Cranes are Flying - Janus tour of the new restoration (at least it was touring briefly)
Salesman - Janus tour of the new restoration (at least it was touring briefly)
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-232 potential upgrades remain
-Citizen Kane might have lost the New Years clue race, but its still forthcoming!
-This finishes the 2019 New Years clues. Bringing Up Baby / Children of Men / the clock clue have had their year+ to be announced. Perhaps they might still be coming, but I don't think the 2019 New Years clue foretold their arrival.
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And this month's All-Around Cowpoke winner is.....
soundchaser!
Deprong Mori had the same line-up, but Domino had it first. Due to outrage at this year's decision and a declined award, Domino Harvey is no longer the Cowpoke this month. Instead the award goes to Soundchaser - who managed to get 3 correct guesses as well. You can pick up your golden lariat at the concession stand.
Until next month,
when the world is below where I stand.