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Re: Forthcoming: Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:11 pm
by FrauBlucher
I think Midnight Cowboy is an Easter Egg on the Il Sorpasso disc that no one has found yet. :P

Re: Forthcoming: Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:15 pm
by RSTooley
They did knock out 'coat unknown', 'inn cold blood', and 'don't look Bach' in a single month.

That is, if 'inn cold blood' doesn't end up being a double clue for Only Lovers Left Alive.

Because double clues exist...
Spoiler
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Re: Forthcoming: Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2015 2:52 am
by Cinephrenic
Smart drawing

Re: Forthcoming: Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:39 am
by Altair
Peter Bogdanovich, in an interview with RogerEbert.com:
Q: A lot of your films have been reedited or reshaped a little after the fact…there’s a different version of “At Long Last Love” on Blu-ray, you put the right music back in for “Mask,” and I think the long version of “Texasville” is one of the great American films of all time. It’s only available on Laserdisc though.

A: I’m trying to get Criterion to put it out, and they’re thinking about it…it’s a much better film in the long version.

Re: Forthcoming: Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:09 pm
by hollis
Since they're splitting up the BBS box, might as well pair it with The Last Picture Show

Re: Forthcoming: Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:00 am
by ianungstad
Scorsese's Film Foundation is world premiering it's restoration of John Ford's The Long Voyage Home at the NYFF.

Re: Forthcoming: Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 4:25 am
by andyli
FWIW, under the entry of The Long Voyage Home at NYFF website it says "A Westchester Films and Shout! Factory release".

Re: Forthcoming: Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 5:06 am
by Ashirg
Shout! Factory owns streaming rights. Westchester Films can still entertain option to release it through Criterion, like they recently done with Breaker Morant and Mister Johnson.

Re: Forthcoming: Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 11:55 am
by FrauBlucher
The Wexner Center said Criterion will not be there in October but will be there in January.

Re: Forthcoming: Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 3:47 pm
by ianungstad
The Long Voyage Home has been licensed to Criterion by Westchester. It's on Criterion's Hulu channel.

The NYFF also has a program dedicated to Scorsese's WCP Project. Weirdly; only two of the titles screening are credited to Janus:

A Touch of Zen (King Hu)
Black Girl (Ousmane Sembene)

Re: Forthcoming: Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 4:05 pm
by FrauBlucher
Maybe I should hold off on ordering BFI's Black Girl.

Re: Forthcoming: Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 6:20 pm
by jwd5275
ianungstad wrote:The NYFF also has a program dedicated to Scorsese's WCP Project. Weirdly; only two of the titles screening are credited to Janus:

A Touch of Zen (King Hu)
Black Girl (Ousmane Sembene)
Having Janus credited for Black Girl is certainly encouraging, in that it shows that they have plans for the newer WCF titles. The only other WCF titles are Insiang and The Boys from Fengkuei, which are the two most recent 2015 restorations and The Boys from Fengkuei is not even up on the WCF website.

This confirms A Touch of Zen. It would be nice if they picked up the restored Dragon Inn along with Come Drink With Me too.

Re: Forthcoming: Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:43 am
by ianungstad
I don't think the restoration of Dragon Inn from last year was done by the WCP. I'm not sure if Criterion is obligated to release these films in catch-all boxsets or if they have to include the WCP branding but from a commercial standpoint; it would make sense for them to license the restoration of Dragon Inn and pair it up with A Touch of Zen and market it as a set of classic kung fu films.

Re: Forthcoming: Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 1:08 pm
by Drucker
FrauBlucher wrote:Maybe I should hold off on ordering BFI's Black Girl.
BFI confirmed for me here, their release of both films is sourced from WCP.

Re: Forthcoming: Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:18 pm
by htom
ianungstad wrote:I don't think the restoration of Dragon Inn from last year was done by the WCP.
Apparently it wasn't.

Re: Forthcoming: Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:51 pm
by jwd5275
A Touch of Zen is not a WCP film either, it is just playing at the NYFF at the same time as the Film Foundation/WCP retrospective. The restoration most likely was done by the Taipei Film Archive like Dragon Inn (It was a rep from Taipei film archive that first passed on the info in July).

Re: Forthcoming: Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:22 pm
by ianungstad
The Telluride slate was announced today. One of the major galas is the premiere of the restoration of Abel Gance's Napoleon. I remember Peter Becker making some suggestive comments at the Wexner Center chat 2 years back that Criterion may have the rights to it and they were waiting on a restoration.

Re: Forthcoming: Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:29 pm
by RyanGallagher
ianungstad wrote:The Telluride slate was announced today. One of the major galas is the premiere of the restoration of Abel Gance's Napoleon. I remember Peter Becker making some suggestive comments at the Wexner Center chat 2 years back that Criterion may have the rights to it and they were waiting on a restoration.
It sounds like it's just a documentary on the restoration: “RESTORING NAPOLEON with Georges Mourier who is currently overseeing the six-and-half-hour restoration of the film for Cinémathèque Francaise”

From the program: “Georges Mourier, a filmmaker with a deep knowledge of Gance’s work, was chosen to oversee the Cinémathèque Française’s new six-and-half-hour restoration, likely to be completed in 2017, and to be presented live with Carmine Coppola’s score. Mourier will bring a fascinating presentation on the history of the film’s many versions and restorations, culminating with the spectacular “La Marseillaise” sequence in its new and definitive incarnation”

Re: Forthcoming: Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:31 pm
by criterion10
RyanGallagher wrote:to be presented live with Carmine Coppola’s score
How likely is it that it will be presented with the original score as well?

Re: Forthcoming: Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:06 pm
by ellipsis7
criterion10 wrote:
RyanGallagher wrote:to be presented live with Carmine Coppola’s score
How likely is it that it will be presented with the original score as well?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Carmine Coppola's score was I believe for a specific (now dated) version of the restoration, and it seems this was why Francis Coppola resisted later longer versions (particularly from Kevin Brownlow with available & flexible Carl Davis scores as the project evolved) because it appeared his father's fine music no longer fitted the new cues... Perhaps a compromise has been reached and a new 'arrangement' of the original Carmine Coppola score has been applied, otherwise it doesn't make sense (to me anyway)...

Re: Forthcoming: Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:30 pm
by bearcuborg
I just want Coppola and his father to be removed from the project ...

Re: Forthcoming: Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:39 pm
by EricJ
ellipsis7 wrote:
criterion10 wrote:
RyanGallagher wrote:to be presented live with Carmine Coppola’s score
How likely is it that it will be presented with the original score as well?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Carmine Coppola's score was I believe for a specific (now dated) version of the restoration, and it seems this was why Francis Coppola resisted later longer versions (particularly from Kevin Brownlow with available & flexible Carl Davis scores as the project evolved) because it appeared his father's fine music no longer fitted the new cues... Perhaps a compromise has been reached and a new 'arrangement' of the original Carmine Coppola score has been applied, otherwise it doesn't make sense (to me anyway)...
It's possible--Unlike Davis's film score, it's a live orchestra non-stop for a three-hour-plus movie, which is why Carmine had to write a solo organ passage in the middle, but it's not out of possibility for him to have tweaked some new cues for the restored cut.
(Although I haven't heard the Davis score, but had the Coppola score on soundtrack album.)

Added benefit, it would verify that "Napoleonic army" from the New Year's hint.

Re: Forthcoming: Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:57 pm
by onedimension
Folks, seems likely they will show the doc, recap the restoration, and premiere the restored "La Marseillaise" sequence while a live orchestra accompanies it.

Re: Forthcoming: Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:13 pm
by The Fanciful Norwegian
jwd5275 wrote:A Touch of Zen is not a WCP film either, it is just playing at the NYFF at the same time as the Film Foundation/WCP retrospective. The restoration most likely was done by the Taipei Film Archive like Dragon Inn (It was a rep from Taipei film archive that first passed on the info in July).
Well, sort of. The Taipei Film Archive doesn't exist anymore—last year it became the Taiwan Film Institute, which is basically the same organization but with a bigger budget and some additional functions. Both restorations were collaborations between the TFA/TFI and L'Immagine Ritrovata.

Re: Forthcoming: Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 6:32 pm
by Yaanu
Janus Films posted this to their Twitter:
#FakeHintFriday
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Then they deleted it and posted it again with the file name deleted from the image.

Obviously it's not a sign of things to come, but I wouldn't be opposed to a CBS TELEVISION MOVIES box set of some sort.