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Posted: **Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:47 am**

I think we should consider Arrow a possibility too if only for the US (as Studio Canal still (?) have UK rights, and I hope that if Arrow were or are in the mix, that they weren't/aren't deterred by the inevitable social media "but what about the uuuukayyyy" whining that will ensue if this release is US only even if that doesn't matter because you can still import and play the disc fine!). I'm honestly hoping it's not Criterion because of their acquiescence to a director's stipulations and I worry that Michael Mann may want to futz with Manhunter's colors the same way he has with Thief. If it's Shout, I hope they've finally hired someone competent for their encoding (Alligator 4k is hopefully a course reversal after the Halloween cockups).

Posted: **Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:42 am**

Any company would have no choice but to do what Mann wants as a new master would have to be supervised/approved by him.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:20 am**

Finch wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:47 amIf it's Shout, I hope they've finally hired someone competent for their encoding (Alligator 4k is hopefully a course reversal after the Halloween cockups).

What’s wrong with the Halloween discs?

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 1:04 pm**

They are very poorly encoded, especially in HDR10. Bright areas of the image turn into digital mush.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:59 pm**

The two sequels to In the Heat of the Night will be included on the Blu-ray disc(s) of the 4K set.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:08 pm**

They’re pretty useless but I’m surprised KLSC missed a chance to sell them individually to their customers

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:15 pm**

They already had released them individually, but those two releases are OOP.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:15 pm**

Ah, well there you go

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:01 pm**

dwk wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 4:42 am Any company would have no choice but to do what Mann wants as a new master would have to be supervised/approved by him.

And aren't there more versions of Manhunter than any other Mann film? Something like eight(!) different cuts? I love every version I've seen (three of them, I think) but obviously he's not a fan of releasing multiple cuts at once, on home media, in general.

Love to see Mann, Malick and Wong try to decide where to have dinner together. They'd never make it to the meal, or leave halfway through.

Posted: **Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:01 pm**

Robert Chipeska wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:01 pm [quote=dwk post_id=749763 time=<a href="tel:1642480951">1642480951</a> user_id=18374]
Any company would have no choice but to do what Mann wants as a new master would have to be supervised/approved by him.

And aren't there more versions of Manhunter than any other Mann film? Something like eight(!) different cuts? I love every version I've seen (three of them, I think) but obviously he's not a fan of releasing multiple cuts at once, on home media, in general.

Love to see Mann, Malick and Wong try to decide where to have dinner together. They'd never make it to the meal, or leave halfway through.

Haha! Well, save seats for Elaine May and Ridley Scott, too.

Mann is probably the most anal. I remember reading about him doing a Q&A with a screening of the second cut of Blackhat and then sitting through the film, taking notes the entire time. I kind of like how The Keep will forever remain the way that it has been since 1983.

Posted: **Sat Jan 22, 2022 4:20 pm**

Coming Soon!

The Last Train From Madrid (1937) Dorothy Lamour, Lew Ayres, Gilbert Roland, Anthony Quinn, Karen Morley, Lionel Atwill, Helen Mack, Alan Ladd, Charles Middleton & Robert Cummings – Harry Fischbeck (Double Door) – Directed by James P. Hogan (The Mad Ghoul).

Posted: **Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:26 pm**

More OOP based on previously being in the "While Supplies Last" sale and now no longer appearing on the website:

The People That Time Forgot (1977) (BD)

Posted: **Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:29 am**

I've been reluctant to buy the BFI's Blu-ray of Michael Powell's The Edge of the World due to the surprisingly poor encode - lots of artifacts, so not surprisingly the bitrate is merely in the teens. But I just noticed it's streaming in HD on Kanopy where it looks great, and the rights holder here in the U.S. is apparently Kino Lorber. A quick search shows that Milestone had it, struck 35mm prints and released a DVD edition. Kino seems to distribute it theatrically now - perhaps they will release a BD with a good encode too?

Posted: **Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:44 pm**

Hitch isn't catching a break with Kino. A Bluray.com user spotted the following:

I just got around to viewing the Kino release of Rich and Strange and sadly there is a disturbing error in the audio track introduced on this release.

I will go through the entire movie again carefully to see if this occurs in multiple locations, but in one section of the film I have pinpointed the exact moment an overlapping of sound occurs.

At 00:19:41:13 through 00:20:40:13 which begins with the inter-title stating “Mediterranean” and ends with Joan Barry’s character asking “May I draw on this?” you can also hear the sound from an earlier section of the film, when Barry and Henry Kendall (Emily and Fred) are at the railway station and then on board the ship crossing the English channel (00:07:53:00 – 00:08:53:00).

Don’t know how this got passed quality control at Kino but am hoping they will correct it and send replacements. For now, buyer beware!

Posted: **Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:06 pm**

There is no problem, we QC'd a dozen times...That is how Hitchcock wanted it to be...we aren't fixing it...etc, etc.

Posted: **Mon Jan 24, 2022 12:33 am**

To be fair to KLI, they've been less dickish on the other forum for some weeks now. I get the impression it's two different people posting now. It'll be interesting to see how they respond to this issue.

Posted: **Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:27 am**

I seem to recall that the old Lionsgate DVD had audio problems too, but in that case it was arbitrarily added foley that was clearly more “modern” than the rest of the soundtrack.

Posted: **Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:58 pm**

dwk wrote: Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:06 pm There is no problem, we QC'd a dozen times...That is how Hitchcock wanted it to be...we aren't fixing it...etc, etc.

Like clockwork:

Kino Lorber Insider wrote:There won't be any replacement programs for this minor error. It was on the source master and none of our 4 QC people had noticed the issue.

And none of the reviewers and over a thousand customer noticed it either.

Followed, of course, by the expected "how dare you pester me with your petty grievance" dismissals.

Posted: **Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:44 am**

Odd reasoning there: there is an error, our QC people didn't notice it - the fault is not our QC people, it's the consumers' expectations about quality.

Posted: **Wed Jan 26, 2022 2:49 am**

QC people = interns

Posted: **Wed Jan 26, 2022 3:15 am**

"It was on the source master" = We don't know how to fix it

Everything else is just them thinking they're saving face for not knowing how to fix it

Posted: **Wed Jan 26, 2022 6:39 am**

I don't understand : how the best home video label ever could act this way ?

Posted: **Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:55 am**

Speaking of Kino mistakes, I was emailing them back and forth for weeks trying to get them to at least acknowledge that their website listing for the Kino-Cohen release for Heat and Dust was misleading. Checked again this morning, and their site still lists all the special features on the blu and dvd as being the same- they are not- and still lists both releases as having "NEW" commentary with Gretta Scacchi and Nikolas Grace, when in fact the commentary is the same exact commentary already on the original Criterion edition.

Posted: **Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:00 am**

britcom68 wrote: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:55 amand still lists both releases as having "NEW" commentary with Gretta Scacchi and Nikolas Grace, when in fact the commentary is the same exact commentary already on the original Criterion edition.

I hope you didn't misspell both their first names in your complaint as well, as that would rather undermine your righteous outrage.

Posted: **Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:39 pm**

A consumer misspelling someone’s name on a message board and a label falsely advertising special features are two different things

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