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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:11 am
by Poncho Punch
Via_Chicago wrote:HerrSchreck wrote:“I’ve always thought that I had a lot in common with Jean-Pierre Melville. He is a silent tiger, a desperate romantic . . . He is a master.” —John Woo
Anyone else catch this?
Next weeks quote from Kevin Smith:
"I always thought I had a lot in common with Orson Welles. He is a film wizard, a visual poet. He is a genius-- just like me."
That's great. Woo has always thought of himself as the heir apparent to Melville. Melville would have approved - if only to have actually had himself a real disciple (see
this interview). In reality though, Woo is merely a pale imitator - a mediocre stylist with little of Melville's restraint or command over his themes.
HerrSchreck wrote:Yea I've caught the ongoing tributes by Woo to Melville, but I've seen little in terms of mise en scene to associate the two of them with each other-- aside from maybe this fixation on this idea of a non-cinematic, real world masculinity. I E bring the sensibility of (what they imagine to be) a real career criminal, a genuine contract killer living on the fringes, etc, into the generally sterile world of film with it's plastic screen criminals. In reality an advertisement to more or less degree for the amount of Street Cool residing in the filmmaker himself.
But whereas Melville registers as a real master and innovator of film grammar, who can say more with a moment of silence than most filmmakers can across a decade of filmmaking, Woo's most beloved films are the precise opposite... gymnastic events with a "more is more" sensibility, hoping to cram more action into a minute of film than most action directors do across a decade of filmmaking.
Outside of that, I just think it's hokey and risky to say "I remind myself of (Insert Brilliant Artist For the Ages), who is a master."
Woo's comment is at least, as HerrSchreck pointed,
moderately justifiable (speaking as an admirer of his work). You can't really say the same for this gem I just picked up during an ill-advised visit to Zach Snyder's wikipedia entry:
'Best known for his cinematic wide screen shooting style, Zack has been compared to a young David Lean to which he remarked, “the similarities are inevitable.”'
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:44 pm
by Tootletron
Poncho Punch wrote:You can't really say the same for this gem I just picked up during an ill-advised visit to Zach Snyder's wikipedia entry:
'Best known for his cinematic wide screen shooting style, Zack has been compared to a young David Lean to which he remarked, “the similarities are inevitable.”'
To be fair, Snyder's wiki entry is all sorts of fucked up. It seriously seems like someone just pasted his resume or press kit or something. It reads like a puff piece.
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:25 pm
by SoyCuba
Tootletron wrote:It seriously seems like someone just pasted his resume or press kit or something.
Correct.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:21 pm
by Adam
I just received the new newsletter.
"Wacky masks" is the name of the file of the clue...
How do i affix it?
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Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:22 pm
by tavernier
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:27 pm
by HypnoHelioStaticStasis
Haven't seen it, but isn't this Friends of Eddie Coyle?
If it is, my avatar will be very happy!
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:32 pm
by Matt
HypnoHelioStaticStasis wrote:Haven't seen it, but isn't this Friends of Eddie Coyle?
I'm sure that's it. We've
already been tipped off to it.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:47 pm
by justeleblanc
I'm still waiting for a newsletter's clue to quote "The Hunting of the Snark" and feature a baker's dozen masks.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:57 pm
by Antoine Doinel
I actually would've preferred to see Schrader's ten worst list.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:10 pm
by domino harvey
Last month we asked you to name at least three actors who have appeared in Criterion releases and also portrayed U.S. presidents on-screen. Correct answers were varied but included Henry Fonda (as Lincoln), Philip Baker Hall (as Nixon), and Anthony Hopkins (as Nixon and John Quincy Adams).
Off the top of my head, they forgot Walter Huston. And Tim Robbins if you count portraying fictional presidents
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:27 pm
by Cinephrenic
Antoine Doinel wrote:I actually would've preferred to see Schrader's ten worst list.
I know right. You'd think think he would have seen
Street of Shame or
Woman Who Ascends the Stairs. He wrote a damn good book analysis Ozu/Bresson/Dreyer, but haven't seen these as a "cinephile" is crazy.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:30 pm
by ambrose1am
This is definitely FRIENDS OF EDDIE COYLE. And by the end of the year it's going to be popping up in many "best-of-all-time" lists. This film is simply outstanding and Mitchum's performance is something to behold.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:07 am
by souvenir
domino harvey wrote:Last month we asked you to name at least three actors who have appeared in Criterion releases and also portrayed U.S. presidents on-screen. Correct answers were varied but included Henry Fonda (as Lincoln), Philip Baker Hall (as Nixon), and Anthony Hopkins (as Nixon and John Quincy Adams).
Off the top of my head, they forgot Walter Huston. And Tim Robbins if you count portraying fictional presidents
Kevin Kline and Michael Douglas too. If television counts, Gregory Peck played Lincoln in a miniseries. If real life counts, Ronald Reagan.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:02 am
by HerrSchreck
What CC is Reagan in?
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:08 am
by JHunter
HerrSchreck wrote:What CC is Reagan in?
The Killers.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:13 am
by HerrSchreck
Ketch. I totally forgot-- I think I watched that version once since buying the set.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:00 am
by Poncho Punch
Michael Gambon, too.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:05 am
by ellipsis7
Paul Schrader actually lists his 'Greatest Films' in 'The Film Canon', Film Comment' Sept/Oct 2006...
His top section - 'Gold' - has 20 titles, many of them in the Criterion Collection...
1. THE RULES OF THE GAME - Renoir
2. TOKYO STORY - Ozu
3. CITY LIGHTS - Chaplin
4. PICKPOCKET - Bresson
5. METROPOLIS - Lang
6. CITIZEN KANE - Welles
7. ORPHEE - Cocteau
8. MASCULIN-FEMININ - Godard
9. PERSONA - Bergman
10. VERTIGO - Hitchcock
11. SUNRISE - Murnau
12. THE SEARCHERS - Ford
13. THE LADY EVE - Sturges
14. THE CONFORMIST - Bertolucci
16. THE GODFATHER - Coppola
17. IN THE MOOD FOR LOVE - Wai
18. THE THIRD MAN - Reed
19. PERFORMANCE - Cammell/Roeg
20. LA NOTTE - Antonioni
It goes on to list a 'Silver' and 'Bronze' section... So from current CC releases, his top Criterion 10 can be deduced to be...
1. THE RULES OF THE GAME - Renoir
2. TOKYO STORY - Ozu
3. PICKPOCKET - Bresson
4. ORPHEE - Cocteau
5. MASCULIN-FEMININ - Godard
6. 8 1/2 - Fellini
7. THE THIRD MAN - Reed
8. THE LEOPARD - Visconti
9. THE PASSION OF JOAN OF ARC - Dreyer
10. JULES AND JIM - Truffaut
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:07 am
by Feego
ellipsis7 wrote:It goes on to list a 'Silver' and 'Bronze' section... So from current CC releases, his top Criterion 10 can be deduced to be...
1. THE RULES OF THE GAME - Renoir
2. TOKYO STORY - Ozu
3. PICKPOCKET - Bresson
4. ORPHEE - Cocteau
5. MASCULIN-FEMININ - Godard
6. 8 1/2 - Fellini
7. THE THIRD MAN - Reed
8. THE LEOPARD - Visconti
9. THE PASSION OF JOAN OF ARC - Dreyer
10. JULES AND JIM - Truffaut
You left out THE LADY EVE and IN THE MOOD FOR LOVE, which should be #'s 7 and 8.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:06 am
by ellipsis7
Revised so...
1. THE RULES OF THE GAME - Renoir
2. TOKYO STORY - Ozu
3. PICKPOCKET - Bresson
4. ORPHEE - Cocteau
5. MASCULIN-FEMININ - Godard
6. 8 1/2 - Fellini
7. THE LADY EVE - Sturges
8. IN THE MOOD FOR LOVE - Wai
9. THE THIRD MAN - Reed
10. THE LEOPARD - Visconti
(11. THE PASSION OF JOAN OF ARC - Dreyer)
(12. JULES AND JIM - Truffaut)
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:48 pm
by Lemmy Caution
Feego wrote:You left out THE LADY EVE and IN THE MOOD FOR LOVE, which should be #'s 7 and 8.
That's to be expected from a guy named
ellipsis.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:56 pm
by foggy eyes
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:00 pm
by domino harvey
Let's not jump to conclusions
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:02 pm
by arsonfilms
So has anyone seen Pigs and Battleships?
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:07 pm
by kaujot
Is it too much to hope for more than one?