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The ending is the funniest part! The bit where the guy is gingerly crossing the stream on crutches is a riot.

does anyone know of a cheap place to pick up that box set?

Cobalt60 wrote:does anyone know of a cheap place to pick up that box set?

You could always wait a few months and get it cheaper. That's what I usually do for most DVDs.

Michael wrote:I finally saw Beyond the Valley of the Dolls this morning. Since this is my first Russ Meyer experience, I have a question about the whole "moralizing" finale. Is that typical of Russ Meyers films?

According to the extensive extras on the DVD, the whole intention of BTVOTD was to satirize the way american movies were made, so I guess the moralizing tone of the finale was what they were after. Think Friday 13th: every character that sins/has sex has to die. But let's not forget the most important thing here -- Meyer is not preaching morals in his films, he is deconstructing our pre-conceived notions of what is wrong or right. He always commented about society in general using satire and that's why his films always worked on two main levels: intelectually and visually (estimulating both to varying degrees... ).

Myra Breckinridge wrote:

Cobalt60 wrote:does anyone know of a cheap place to pick up that box set?

You could always wait a few months and get it cheaper. That's what I usually do for most DVDs.

Yeah, me too. However, I've seen it on Ebay for $125 plus like $40 to ship. Anyone know where to get it cheaper? Or the cheapest place to get the individual discs?

Well, well, well... what do you know? TCM is playing Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill! on October, 20th...!

http://tcmdb.com/TCMDB/title/title.jsp?stid=74621

It's a shame that no one seems to be trying to do these films right in any region. I've considered buying the Arrow editions, but I can never bring myself to actually do it because of my hope for better editions down the road. The R1 DVDs are one of the biggest ripoffs ever foisted on the moviebuying public, $40 for barebones discs that are straight transfers from VHS/laserdisc. I guess whoever owns Russ Meyer Films nowadays figures that it's not worth upgrading the quality if people are still shelling out their money.

Not that it would ever happen, but the second- and third-tier Meyer films would make great Eclipse boxsets.

I have been somewhat disappointed on the quality of the Arrow disks and would love some decent transfers of these great films. The Arrow disks are better than nothing, especially when Amazon.uk ocassionally puts them on sale for around £5.

The Arrow discs are all on sale at BlahDVD for less than 8,00. I have two more to purchase. I started collecting them before they announced a complete set, so I have the Vixens box set.

Bump -- anyone have any suggestions as to how one may, if not obtain a copy of, see "The Seven Minutes"?

I don't know who holds the rights to Fanny Hill, but for completions sake, we need The Seven Minutes and Fanny Hill. Apparently the really early stuff is all lost.

Seven Minutes shouldn't be too hard to find on (crappy) bootleg. Maybe ioffer. The first half is great, including some dizzying editing, but then it gets a bit bogged down in the courtroom.

EDIT: you might be able to get it at www.subcin.com

It's definitely an underrated film (by Meyer himself, among others), and the only proof that RM could make a good "straight" film. It stands up a bit better than most of his post-Vixen work.

Can someone post a link to this Japanese set of Meyer movies that has been mentioned here? The Arrow set is on sale in the uk and before I go for that I'd like to make an informed decision. Are the Japs remastered and better? Etc etc

manicsounds wrote:There are a few boxes that are way overpriced....

Thank you manicsounds, I assume that the quasi-complete collection is divived into those 3-goodlooking box sets?
Unbelievably overpriced lol! Are they in pristine and uncut conditions at least?

Westwood wrote:

manicsounds wrote:There are a few boxes that are way overpriced....

Thank you manicsounds, I assume that the quasi-complete collection is divived into those 3-goodlooking box sets?
Unbelievably overpriced lol! Are they in pristine and uncut conditions at least?

I would imagine they are cut since Meyer was not afraid to show pubic hair.

zombeaner wrote:

Westwood wrote:

manicsounds wrote:There are a few boxes that are way overpriced....

Thank you manicsounds, I assume that the quasi-complete collection is divived into those 3-goodlooking box sets?
Unbelievably overpriced lol! Are they in pristine and uncut conditions at least?

I would imagine they are cut since Meyer was not afraid to show pubic hair.

At first I had a good laugh, then I realized you might mean that showing pubic hair in Japan is a total no-no and so these would probably be cut?

Westwood wrote:At first I had a good laugh, then I realized you might mean that showing pubic hair in Japan is a total no-no and so these would probably be cut?

More detail than you probably wanted, but pubic hair is generally OK if the actual genitalia aren't clearly visible. That said, there isn't really any consistency as to what gets censored and what doesn't (the official guidelines only say that pubic hair and genitalia should be avoided "in principle").

I have been taping them from tv whenever they get shown and caught some showing a penis, not shocked
They should really be released in pristine condition, like so many others...

Well, I would say that even if they are uncut in Japan, I know that the extras on the UK set are well worth watching.

Found this on another forum

Anecdotal evidence

Thank you very much for this one. I guess this puts the nail in the coffin for the Jap sets.

More detail than you probably wanted, but pubic hair is generally OK if the actual genitalia aren't clearly visible. That said, there isn't really any consistency as to what gets censored and what doesn't (the official guidelines only say that pubic hair and genitalia should be avoided "in principle").

It's good that these things come out in the open; potential customers should be aware precisely what they're paying for!