Re: The 1960s List: Discussion and Suggestions
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:56 pm
Not to forget William "better than Ford"* Witney
*according to Quentin Tarantino
*according to Quentin Tarantino
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Rayon Vert wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:27 pm
Underworld U.S.A. is Fuller pulling out all the stops, whether in terms of level of energy, the daring of the no-holds-barred treatment (the little girl killed on her bicycle, the emotional bruising we feel when Cuddles bears her heart only to have it completely insensitively destroyed by Devlin), or the virtuoso shots and excess of style (e.g. those close-up shots of the drunk Cuddles in the park talking to Devlin straight into the camera in lieu of the traditional over-the-shoulder shot).
These are all revisits for me (as I've said I'll be sticking to those for a long bit). It used to be my favourite of his, maybe now at least top three or four, but yeah I think it's the greatest demonstration of what he can do.therewillbeblus wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:13 pm Underworld U.S.A. is one of Fuller's rawest films, a personal favorite (or, close to it), and a serious list-contender. Glad you enjoyed it, RV!
Good to know, so it's not just me overreacting!knives wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:21 pm The Neame is definitely doing that intentionally, as made even more explicit in the original novel though even more parenthetically I haven’t encountered the play yet, as it precedes and takes down the inane Dead Poet’s Society idea of teaching.
I can understand that - the negative turn that Darin's character takes has something realistic about it but really depressing and as you say there isn't enough there to relate to. I do think Stella Stevens offers a really affecting performance, there's something quite vulnerable and magnetic about her, although depending on the scenes her character goes into a few unfortunate, excessive and clichéd reactions once the drama amps up. I still felt the film, in its very long takes and improvisatory feel (I'm using the word feel because I know Cassavetes didn't improvise as such), had something of a free-flowing jazz vibe (to match the music), and that's where it doesn't feel at all like a studio film. I don't get that vibe with A Child Is Waiting, though for its own reasons that also comes across as a strange studio-independent auteur hybridtherewillbeblus wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:13 pmAs promised, I watched the two Cassavetes I hadn't seen from the decade, and as I feared, I have nothing to say about Too Late Blues. I didn't like it, but why it fails -where other films about a milieu of aimless, flawed characters work for me- is a mystery. Perhaps the film is too pristine and tightly orchestrated around apparent aims, that are pretty meaningless in favor of the details, to the point where said details don't breathe as the real purpose of the film's interest (and, similarly, perhaps it's because the characters are vapid without the idiosyncratic realisms of Cassavetes' other seemingly-hollow characters that are relatable within those peripheral traits). I know this film was affected by studio interference, so it's possible that much of this criticism can be chalked up to that.
Agreed. One of the things I love about The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie is that there are not exactly any clear-cut heroes and villains as there are in Dead Poet's Society, to use knives' comparison. Brodie is attractive because she so flamboyantly goes against the grain and indulges her students' more frivolous interests, but there is indeed a narcissistic quality in the celebrity status she cultivates among the girls and her male colleagues. She also has perhaps naive but genuinely dangerous political leanings that she preaches to her girls. What's fascinating is that, while her fate is deserved, it also comes about largely because of the other characters' selfish whims: Sandy's jealousy at discovering she is not the object of the art teacher's desire and the headmistress' long-standing hatred for Brodie. It's a case of doing the right thing for the wrong reasons, and in that sense I do sort of feel sorry for Brodie in the end even though she is everything Sandy accuses her of being.Rayon Vert wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:52 pmGood to know, so it's not just me overreacting!knives wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:21 pm The Neame is definitely doing that intentionally, as made even more explicit in the original novel though even more parenthetically I haven’t encountered the play yet, as it precedes and takes down the inane Dead Poet’s Society idea of teaching.
I'd add that part of that attractiveness is the general sense of freedom she represents, and within that more especially the sense of sexual liberation (which seems a big theme of the film in general). Given that the film takes place in the 30s but is realized in the social context that is the late 60s, that fools audiences more into expecting her to represent the heroine (vs. what the school principal represents).Feego wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 8:48 pmBrodie is attractive because she so flamboyantly goes against the grain and indulges her students' more frivolous interests
I only bought the TT because domino praised it when their titles were going out of stock, and a quick Letterboxd search shows a few others like it here as well. I hate to inform you that it doesn't stand a chance at making my list thoughnitin wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:49 pm twbb, you are the only other person I have come across that like Baby the Rain Must Fall! Perhaps it may not be an orphan after all (although I am not entirely sure it would even make my cut despite how much I like it given the decade we are dealing with).