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Re: MoC Facebook & Twitter
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:40 pm
by zedz
It's a Colossal Youth reference. The song is played in the film.
Re: MoC Facebook & Twitter
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:04 pm
by Frankinho007
mastersofcinema just tweeted:
Gearing up to make some big announcements on Friday.
Re: MoC Facebook & Twitter
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:35 pm
by Jeff
Frankinho007 wrote:mastersofcinema just tweeted:
Gearing up to make some big announcements on Friday.
Looking forward to seeing Criterion and MoC play "Dueling Banjos" on Friday. I assume that announcements of
Island of Lost Souls are coming from both.
Re: MoC Facebook & Twitter
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 5:44 pm
by Frankinho007
Jeff wrote:Frankinho007 wrote:mastersofcinema just tweeted:
Gearing up to make some big announcements on Friday.
Looking forward to seeing Criterion and MoC play "Dueling Banjos" on Friday. I assume that announcements of
Island of Lost Souls are coming from both.
According to their latest tweet, 5 titles will be announced Friday:
A reminder: COLOSSAL YOUTH + SCHLOSS VOGELOD in Aug, THE IRON HORSE + HARAKIRI in Sept. Will be announcing Oct (3) + Nov (2) releases on Fri
Re: MoC Facebook & Twitter
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:11 am
by eerik
Twitter: Finished designing the new 20-page printed MoC Catalogue 2011/2012, hopefully printed sometime in August.
Re: MoC Facebook & Twitter
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:52 pm
by eerik
Twitter: We're announcing our October and November releases either tonight or tomorrow (Tues). Probably tomorrow, but definitely no more delays!
Re: MoC Facebook & Twitter
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:34 pm
by swo17
Anyone know who this is (from MoC's Twitter background)?

Re: MoC Facebook & Twitter
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:35 pm
by Peacock
A young Imamura?
Re: MoC Facebook & Twitter
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:47 pm
by eerik
Steve Hills twitter: Along with @mastersofcinema we'll be announcing the full Eureka/ MoC/ Bounty Films line up for the rest of the year tommorrow evening...
Re: MoC Facebook & Twitter
Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:10 pm
by souvenir
I believe that picture is Shohei Imamura, specifically from A Man Vanishes
Re: MoC Facebook & Twitter
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:41 pm
by swo17
Apparently MoC are going on strike or something over Phaidon's insistence on continuing to use the "Masters of Cinema" branding for its book series.
MoC wrote:We're stopping work, putting down our tools, until @phaidoneurope do the right thing and acknowledge that they can't use our name...We'd like fans of MoC to politely write to Phaidon and let them know they've named their books clumsily.
MoC wrote:We're doing ZERO work on MoC titles while we fight this unnecessariness from @Phaidon to protect our brand.
MoC wrote:Eureka will continue to sell MoC product direct as normal, during the MoC production crew's impromptu strike to protest against the publisher @phaidon's barefaced appropriation of our established brand. #badPhaidon
Re: MoC Facebook & Twitter
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:26 pm
by swo17
You can send your protests here:
MoC wrote:Phaidon head of publicity, GB&IRE, Jennifer Lea
[email protected]
Phaidon, London Publicity Department T + 44 20 7843 1000 F + 44 20 7843 1215
Phaidon Head of UK Sales & Marketing, Daniel Groenewald
[email protected]
T + 44 20 7843 1206 M + 44 7818 043 894
Re: MoC Facebook & Twitter
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:30 am
by TMDaines
So presumably Masters of Cinema is trademarked by Eureka, correct?
Re: MoC Facebook & Twitter
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:00 pm
by tojoed
No, I don't think it's a trade mark, if it were they would have legal recourse.
Re: MoC Facebook & Twitter
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:16 pm
by triodelover
tojoed wrote:No, I don't think it's a trade mark, if it were they would have legal recourse.
If that's true, isn't this just cutting off their nose to spite their face? Without legal recourse for leverage, a stop-work only hurts MoC's customers and revenue stream. Where's the pain to Phaidon in this other than angry e-mails which they can delete/ignore?
Re: MoC Facebook & Twitter
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:49 pm
by matrixschmatrix
They've mentioned that they are taking this to court, so I assume they do have a trademark. Their argument is that the legal process is lengthy and harmful to both parties, and they don't particularly wish Phaidon any ill, so they're hoping fan outcry will get them to fold without having to sue.
Re: MoC Facebook & Twitter
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:54 am
by Tribe
triodelover wrote:tojoed wrote:No, I don't think it's a trade mark, if it were they would have legal recourse.
If that's true, isn't this just cutting off their nose to spite their face? Without legal recourse for leverage, a stop-work only hurts MoC's customers and revenue stream. Where's the pain to Phaidon in this other than angry e-mails which they can delete/ignore?
No, what it does is increase pressure on Phaidon by depriving entities which market MOC releases of new titles. Eventually, customers will ask those retailers "why no MOC?' and so on and so forth. It's not a bad tactic.
Re: MoC Facebook & Twitter
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:05 am
by zedz
That seems to be betting on very remote chances. 99% of customers are probably unaware of MoC as a brand (they're just interested in specific titles), and 99% of those that are aware of the brand probably won't notice the lack of new product, and 99% of those that do notice won't bother to ask the retailer "what's up?" (they'll just shrug), and 99.9% of retailers will have no idea "what's up?" and just shrug back (or go back to the start of this sentence, replacing 'customer' with 'retailer').
Oh, and if by chance anybody gets through that particular steeplechase of improbabilities, 99% of them won't bother to write an angry letter to Phaidon.
MoC may get some pick-up in that regard from direct communication with people on forums like ours, but I'm skeptical that it would be sufficient to put any real pressure on Phaidon. If there's going to be any solution, it's likely to be a legal one (or the threat of a costly lawsuit, though Phaidon is probably in a better position to call MoC's bluff than the other way around.)
Re: MoC Facebook & Twitter
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:58 am
by Tribe
Keep in mind that Phaidon's potential market for the particular series of books that are at issue here is likely as big (or as small, depending how you look at it) as MOC's market. In any event, I didn't intend that the "strike" option was the end all/be all...there has to be legal action as well, which from the posts I understand there will be.
Re: MoC Facebook & Twitter
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:27 am
by The Elegant Dandy Fop
It's on their front page now. I really hope this doesn't cease production. I was getting excited when Nick mentioned they were going to announce more titles by next month. Will it delay those?
Re: MoC Facebook & Twitter
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:45 am
by Gropius
This whole dispute strikes me as a bit of a storm in a teacup. After all, 'masters of cinema' is not the most original phrase in the world (is the actual phrase a registered trademark, or just the logo?), and it's not as if any sales are likely to be lost on either end in the case of any confusion.
Re: MoC Facebook & Twitter
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:48 am
by matrixschmatrix
On their front page, they say that they've been dealing with people calling about ordering Phaidon's books through them and things- obviously it's become enough of a nuisance for them that it seemed worth dealing with. And Phaidon is the much larger company, which means that if MoC doesn't act to defend their trademark they risk getting totally swamped.
Re: MoC Facebook & Twitter
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:21 am
by Gregory
I didn't quite believe the strike news when swo17 posted it, it seemed almost unbelievable. The publishing outfit I'm with is like MoC in several crucial ways as far as I can see (an almost impossible volume of releases completed on a shoestring by a few people through sheer dedication), and if we stopped work for even a week we'd be playing catch-up even more than usual for the following year. As it is, it's basically impossible to have everything out by the scheduled released dates. Maybe they were planning to take vacations about now anyway. I don't mean to play the skeptic, I'm just still a little baffled by this.
By the way, for these email to Phaidon to have any real effect, I'd imagine they'd have to be polite yet include something along the lines of "I'll hesitate to purchase any further Phaidon books until this is settled in a reasonable fashion."
Re: MoC Facebook & Twitter
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:51 am
by TMDaines
Add me to the baffled camp who sees this as cutting one's nose to spite their face. Protect your brand name for sure but this protest is sure reading like a joke we're all missing.
Re: MoC Facebook & Twitter
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:15 am
by tojoed
Did MoC/Eureka ever complain about
this DVD box set?
It was released by New Masters of Cinema Ltd, who, I'm assuming, are nothing to do with Eureka.