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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:53 pm
by Never Cursed
FrauBlucher wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:48 pm
Could
The Game be UHD bound? Just a thought
Ha, I think that's perfect. Between this and the realization that Lost Highway is the French movie, I think this is the slate:
1968 USA: Night of the Living Dead UHD
1944 USA = Laura
1997 France = Lost Highway
1997 Japan = Cure
2019 Guatemala = La Llorona
1997 USA = The Game UHD
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:57 pm
by movielocke
eerik wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:07 pm
1968 USA
1944 USA
1997 France
1997 Japan
2019 Guatemala
1997 USA
guesses:
1968 USA - Night of the Living Dead UHD
1944 USA - Arsenic and Old Lace
1997 France - Assassin(s)
(on the channel)
1997 Japan - Cure
2019 Guatemala - La Llorona
1997 USA - Lost Highway
if 1944 is an upgrade, Canturbury Tales would fit
if 1997 France is an upgrade, La Vie de Jesus would fit.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:58 pm
by Pavel
La Vie de Jesus getting a UHD upgrade would be the most surprising thing Criterion's done in years

Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:01 pm
by movielocke
FrauBlucher wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:48 pm
Could
The Game be UHD bound? Just a thought
how busy is Fincher right now, would he have had time to sign off on a new grade?
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:03 pm
by Maltic
A Canterbury Tale is unfortunately very British
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:07 pm
by movielocke
Pavel wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:58 pm
La Vie de Jesus getting a UHD upgrade would be the most surprising thing Criterion's done in years
It made me chuckle just writing it.
Maltic wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:03 pm
A Canterbury Tale is unfortunately very British
doh! how'd I forget half the clue?
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:10 pm
by FrauBlucher
FrauBlucher wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:23 pm
Arsenic and Old Lace on IMDB is listed as 1943.
I just checked an old
Arsenic and Old Lace Criterion laserdisc. They have it listed as a 1944 film, so unfortunately I think this will be it.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:11 pm
by Calvin
FrauBlucher wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:23 pm
Arsenic and Old Lace on IMDB is listed as 1943. How about
To Have and Have Not? I do hope it's
Laura though
Arsenic and Old Lace was screened for U.S. Armed Forces personnel at overseas bases in 1943 but wasn't released properly to the public until September 1944 and should be considered a 1944 release.
1997 - USA - Eve's Bayou?
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:29 pm
by Computer Raheem
eerik wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:07 pm
1968 USA
1944 USA
1997 France
1997 Japan
2019 Guatemala
1997 USA
The one time I'm not paying attention and there's an insider spilling the deetz! ](*,)
Jokes aside, here's my (new) predictions (if the forum gods want to delete, that's ok):
1968 USA -
Night of the Living Dead UHD (Maybe DiscFather gets it right for once)
1997 France -
Lost Highway UHD
1997 Japan -
Cure Blu-Ray (No Japanese UHD, so there can't be a US UHD)
1997 USA -
4 Little Girls Blu-Ray (though hoping it's
Eve's Bayou, as someone guessed, even if it's with Lionsgate)
1944 USA and 2019 Guatemala are up in the air. Good time to be 1997 this month
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:39 pm
by ryannichols7
Computer Raheem wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:29 pm
1997 Japan - Cure Blu-Ray (No Japanese UHD, so there can't be a US UHD)
that's only known to be an issue with Toho though!
Cure is a Daiei (now Kadokawa) title. I don't think that'll stop them, but who knows until Monday. either way, it should look great
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:51 pm
by Computer Raheem
ryannichols7 wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:39 pm
Computer Raheem wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:29 pm
1997 Japan - Cure Blu-Ray (No Japanese UHD, so there can't be a US UHD)
that's only known to be an issue with Toho though!
Cure is a Daiei (now Kadokawa) title. I don't think that'll stop them, but who knows until Monday. either way, it should look great
I thought that was an issue with Japanese companies as a whole (due to Region A issues). Then again, I wouldn't put too much stock on Cure being UHD-ready. Just my own hypothesis; I'd love to be proven wrong [-o<
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:01 pm
by Finch
If Cure is only a BD (still keeping fingers crossed for a 4k though), I hope that Pixellogic don't fuck up the encoding. I don't see MoC upgrading their BD for the 4k restoration (as welcome as that would be!). And if we get Night on UHD, please let it be a Scanavo case. I'm so sick of their Digipacks.
I mean, we know Arsenic and Old Lace is happening (unfortunately) but they've never stacked October with this many horror or horror adjacent titles before. Probably hoping against hope that the 1944 title is something else and they're saving the Capra for another month. If it's Laura, it might be UHD? Really though, I'd rather it's Hail The Conquering Hero.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:15 pm
by Marwood
Could USA 1944 be The Miracle of Morgan's Creek?
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:31 pm
by swo17
I don't see why not
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 1:19 am
by dwk
1997 US title could be Rosewood.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:08 am
by FrauBlucher
After thinking about the clues and October it's unlikely that every title will be Halloweencentric. Criterion has not done that before. So, with that said, I think with Cure, Lost Highway, Night of the Living Dead and La Llorona being fairly safe bets, I now think that the USA 1944 will either be Laura, although as much as want this to be it it has to be an underdog, or one of the two Preston Sturges films from that year which seems the most likely to me. Criterion loves them some Preston Sturges. As for the USA 1997, if Lost Highway is in fact the French 1997 film, than this will probably be the doc 4 Little Girls which has been confirmed as coming.
This is my last two cents before the announcements.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:21 am
by ryannichols7
I also think it would be really funny if we all automatically assumed the 68 US title is gonna be one of the two horror heavy hitters. would any sane person bitch if they shocked us with Once Upon a Time in the West in 4K? I'm sure that's gonna come from Kino though. I also joked about Monterey Pop's re-re-re-re-release, also another one
EDIT: Targets is another one, and that has yet to have a US label confirmed, obviously BFI is doing it in the UK
I agree though, I don't think they'll do an all Halloween month. Arsenic would work fine since it's Halloween-adjecent but not full on. Criterion isn't Arrow, it wouldn't be very them to go all in on the horror. now with Inland Empire confirmed as not part of this group I definitely tend to think we'll get a better mix of titles. I do hope if Laura is the 44 title that we get a 4K, since none have been confirmed from Fox yet, though it is confirmed Criterion is still licensing titles from them, unlike the other labels.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:34 am
by MitchPerrywinkle
The Guatemalan film is almost certainly a Jayro Bustamante title, but is there a possibility it could be Temblores instead, which also came out the same year as La Llorona? Or would the former's status as an international co-production between Guatemala and France put the kibosh on that theory?
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:38 am
by fiendishthingy
Arsenic and Old Lace takes place (entirely, from what I remember) on Halloween, so an October release date would make sense.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 5:29 am
by brundlefly
MitchPerrywinkle wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:34 am
The Guatemalan film is almost certainly a Jayro Bustamante title, but is there a possibility it could be
Temblores instead, which also came out the same year as
La Llorona? Or would the former's status as an international co-production between Guatemala and France put the kibosh on that theory?
Don't know if it puts it out of the running for an upgrade, but
Temblores has a Film Movement DVD while
La Llorona doesn't seem to have any physical release in the U.S. It's October and
La Llorona is ripe for supplements (if Criterion bothers) and more marketable. (If likely to disappoint people looking for straight-up horror.) Doesn't even seem to be streaming on Shudder anymore, and I thought it lived there. So it makes sense.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:54 am
by bad future
ryannichols7 wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:42 pm
if
Lost Highway is the "France" film that would free up a US slot, which opens up everything from
Boogie Nights to
Gummo
I am sort of surprised we haven't seen anything for
Boogie Nights for its 25th anniversary given that it has reportedly had a new master on digital platforms for a few years, and got a DVD-only Warner Archive release not long ago, and a Criterion release would explain why Warner hasn't done anything themselves yet... but I still think that "France" would be a pretty counterintuitive
Lost Highway hint to land on even if it is technically accurate, so I expect that to fill the USA slot and something else from France.
Can anyone here comment on
Ma Vie En Rose as a possible French '97 title? What little I've read about it makes it seem like it could either serve Criterion's interest in including queer themes in the collection, or it could be a more conciliatory kind of film geared toward a straight audience.. though I guess something could always be both for Criterion.
Really hope the '44 is one or both Sturges! Though
Arsenic and Old Lace seems like the best bet with the Halloween connection.
And there's almost zero chance
Cure is BD only, right? It has a new 4k restoration, it's a fairly popular horror film, and horror seems to be the most reliable avenue for boutique labels to sell UHD's.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 1:32 pm
by domino harvey
bad future wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:54 am
Can anyone here comment on
Ma Vie En Rose as a possible French '97 title? What little I've read about it makes it seem like it could either serve Criterion's interest in including queer themes in the collection, or it could be a more conciliatory kind of film geared toward a straight audience.. though I guess something could always be both for Criterion.
It was my first guess, it was a crowd-pleaser back in the day and hits Criterion’s interest points of late. But it technically is a Belgian film
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:00 pm
by colinr0380
Not to dissuade anyone from the "1997 Japan" clue meaning Cure, but I was wondering what the possibility there would be of it being Shohei Imamura's
The Eel, especially since it is the film that Imamura won the Palme d'Or for (together with Kiarostami's Taste of Cherry)
And whilst Lost Highway seems confirmed, wouldn't it be exciting if that was the "French" film and the "1997 USA" film was Wim Wenders'
The End of Violence? Then we could have a month of Bill Pullman psycho-dramas!
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:10 pm
by therewillbeblus
Maybe the '97 French film is My Sex Life... since that's the year it was released everywhere outside of France after another post-Cannes festival run? (Please?)
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:22 pm
by Furstemberg
Streets are saying the '44 is Arsenic. I long for death. Laura, please.