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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:03 pm
by andyli
furbicide wrote:It does seem like they've hit a rare vein of form (and the Eustache set is hopefully not too far away either)! My biggest complaint would be that they're still bringing out things like Picnic at Hanging Rock that are already readily available in extensive new Region 2 Blu-rays – but there's nothing new there of course, and I understand that those who are region 1/A locked may see value in those releases.
There would be immense value if Criterion could persuade whoever ordered the grain removal to change their mind, but I doubt it’s gonna happen.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:40 pm
by spectre
Yeah, unfortunately the Criterion release blurb also boasts of a "restoration supervised and approved by director Peter Weir", so I'm assuming this'll be more or less identical to the version on the Second Sight release.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:44 pm
by tenia
andyli wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:03 pmThere would be immense value if Criterion could persuade whoever ordered the grain removal to change their mind, but I doubt it’s gonna happen.
I doubt that, especially as Criterion seem very unlikely to go against directors'/DPs' wishes, and it definitely looks like this one absolutely was.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:40 pm
by Buttery Jeb
In addition to Milestone licensing I am Cuba to them, Criterion is also now handling digital sales for Film Movement Classics on Farewell My Concubine. It's up on Amazon, iTunes and Vudu, attributed to the Criterion Collection.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:15 pm
by dwk
Odd. I guess OCN does not do digital sales for their partner labels?
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:19 pm
by Matt
What a bizarre catalog
Film Movement Classics has. Some ‘80s and ‘90s art house seat-fillers, some HK action, a couple of Kitanos, Fritz Lang’s Indian Epic, and about a dozen Joe Sarno soft-core films.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:40 pm
by fiendishthingy
Also a Visconti, a Rohmer and the Sissi trilogy with Romy Schneider, among other things.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 9:16 pm
by FrauBlucher
Buttery Jeb wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:40 pm
In addition to Milestone licensing
I am Cuba to them, Criterion is also now handling digital sales for Film Movement Classics on
Farewell My Concubine. It's up on Amazon, iTunes and Vudu, attributed to the Criterion Collection.
Any reason to think this could also include physical media for
Farewell My Concubine (and maybe others)?
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:55 pm
by Matt
They are already using OCN/Vinegar Syndrome for physical media, but that may not be an exclusive partnership.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:14 am
by Blip Martindale
From Blu-ray.com:
I spoke to one of the actors in Risky Business and he heard it was with Criterion. They are currently releasing a few Warner titles, so it would make sense for them to have it, even more so coupled with the fact Warner didn’t release it themselves on the 40th. Hoping the title being with Criterion is the reason why.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:33 pm
by rwiggum
Blip Martindale wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:14 am
From Blu-ray.com:
I spoke to one of the actors in Risky Business and he heard it was with Criterion. They are currently releasing a few Warner titles, so it would make sense for them to have it, even more so coupled with the fact Warner didn’t release it themselves on the 40th. Hoping the title being with Criterion is the reason why.
Would this be the first Cruise in the Collection? It looks like he was a producer on The Others but I can't think of any beyond that.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 7:14 pm
by Peacock
rwiggum wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:33 pm Would this be the first Cruise in the Collection? It looks like he was a producer on The Others but I can't think of any beyond that.
Isn’t he in
Warrendale?
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 7:24 pm
by therewillbeblus
Peacock wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 7:14 pm
rwiggum wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:33 pm Would this be the first Cruise in the Collection? It looks like he was a producer on The Others but I can't think of any beyond that.
Isn’t he in
Warrendale?
No, I don't think so. Alex Lifeson from Rush is in
Come on Children, but Cruise grew up in NY whereas
Warrendale takes place at a residential facility in Ontario. I think Cruise's childhood was less than ideal, but don't think he was institutionalized
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 7:42 pm
by The Fanciful Norwegian
Cruise lived in Ottawa for a few years, but that period ('71–'74) was too late for Warrendale.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:13 pm
by beamish14
Blip Martindale wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:14 am
From Blu-ray.com:
I spoke to one of the actors in Risky Business and he heard it was with Criterion. They are currently releasing a few Warner titles, so it would make sense for them to have it, even more so coupled with the fact Warner didn’t release it themselves on the 40th. Hoping the title being with Criterion is the reason why.
I hope this is a two-fer with the immensely underrated
Men Don’t Leave
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2024 1:38 am
by FrauBlucher
When they get around to releasing Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid is there any chance Passion & Poetry: The Ballad of Sam Peckinpah can be a supp on the release?
EDIT: Never mind. I see it's on Arrow's Major Dundee
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:56 am
by tolbs1010
I'm hoping for "Noon Wine" as a bonus feature. Doesn't really fit thematically with PG & BtK, but it seems like the kind of piece that should have been included as a bonus feature on a Peckinpah release already. Interesting mix of actors all doing fine work. Per Oscarsson, especially.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:51 am
by therewillbeblus
tolbs1010 wrote: Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:56 am
I'm hoping for "Noon Wine" as a bonus feature. Doesn't really fit thematically with
PG & BtK, but it seems like the kind of piece that should have been included as a bonus feature on a Peckinpah release already. Interesting mix of actors all doing fine work. Per Oscarsson, especially.
Agreed, though the print I saw was in baaad shape - not sure what kind of cleanup work is needed
Per Oscarsson stole it for me too (that scream during the manhunt still haunts me), though I found Robards’ perf particularly interesting when taken as a whole by the end. He gives a simple emotion, finally acknowledged and permitted to exist, more work than the suppressed shielded complexity many actors would kill for; a kind of realism where as a person and actor he’s deluding himself through life til he wakes up. The cumulative effect is powerful
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:54 am
by jheez
Noon Wine was included on Twilight Time’s OOP blu-ray of The Killer Elite. It’s SD (but I assume it wasn’t shot on film?). It’s also available on DVD (and YouTube) for those interested
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 6:26 am
by dwk
yoloswegmaster wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:55 pm
Encounters of the Spooky Kind and Mr. Vampire I-III open with the Criterion and Janus logos (Mr. Vampire IV does not).
I just started
Mr. Vampire IV and it now starts with the Criterion and Janus logos.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:53 pm
by Beloved Aunt
The Austerity Criterion, Except Every Few Months We Release A Crunchy Granola Indie Film Directed By A Woman From The Early 90s, Often With The Word "Fight" In The Title, That Does Include Quite A Number Of Interviews, Collection
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:57 pm
by Beloved Aunt
but that's it though, i don't think any other films fit that description
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:13 pm
by ryannichols7
are these early 90s indies particularly in demand? I'll include To Die For in that. this kind of release really seems to be on the uptick lately
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:15 pm
by domino harvey
Girlfight (an early 00s film, btw) was modestly popular on release but I can’t remember the last time I saw anyone talk about it. I think there just aren’t that many titles that fit the metrics Criterion is going to great pains to hit
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:26 pm
by DRW.mov
In the way that there was in uptick in 80s films in the collection about 10 years ago (Blow Out, Something Wild, Insignificance, Repo Man, Big Chill, Scanners, Broadcast News) it feels like we’re getting about the same now for the 90s. Time allows for reappraisal of works by new audiences and new generations. The newfound acclaim for Kusama’s Jennifer’s Body has certainly sparked new interest in her body of work. Having this and Menace II Society, To Die For, Eve’s Bayou, Lost Highway, Mississippi Masala, Watermelon Woman, Malcom X, One False Move, Lone Star, and Trainspotting of late is a nice move forward. This films are now (nearly) 30 years old. If they were cars they’d be considered vintage. It’s the same as Criterion doing Belle de jour and Last Picture Show in the mid90s on laserdisc.