Re: The All-Time List Discussion Thread
Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 11:19 pm
As for Shrew's list of neglected titles, I've only seen Irreversible and The Tribe, so you can +1 all the rest.
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I actually saw Rushmore first and watched all the rest consecutively in theaters, but re-watched Tenenbaums about a year ago and just felt that it worked in several areas (warmth, humor, cinematography, music, editing) at levels he's reached or surpassed in his subsequent work, but never all at once the way he did with that film.JohnShade wrote:Curious for the W Anderson voters, particularly those who placed Tenenbaums so high, was that your first Wes movie or just the overall favorite?
I think it's the one-off title in the director's oeuvre that even Godard non-believers tend to like, though I'm not sure why that is!JohnShade wrote:Has Contempt had a better reputation historically than Pierrot?
You're on the right side of history, my friend.Rayon Vert wrote:It's fun reading people's full lists and getting a sense of their favorites. For the fun of it, I looked to see (among those who displayed their full lists) who I had the most chosen titles in common:
14. dustybooks; a man stayed-put
13. Darkimbecile
11. Lowry-sam
10. JohnShade; movielocke
9. domino harvey
He did submit a list. 15 of the films on there (30%) were pre-1960s. The overall list was 43% pre-1960s.DarkImbecile wrote:Did you submit a list in an attempt to rectify this?
That's funny. I've pretty much got the opposite view (replace 70s for 50s) - even though my heaviest cinema-going and movie-renting years (pre-dedicated cinephile) were 1980-2007.Lighthouse wrote:Films are generally better made (= more fascinating) after the 50s.
I think it has an appeal similar to Bottle Rocket where it's clearly of a cohesive voice with his later work but it's just a little bit looser around the edges because Burton hasn't quite found what his thing was quite yet and that makes me prefer it to his (admittedly ridiculously great) follow-ups, which gives it this great air of auteurism and being a serious work of cinema unlike everything around it in my (and others' lists) but it never feels to have such pretensions about its importance.JohnShade wrote:I did a quick control f on the giant 1000 TSPDT list and it seems the majority there was also post-'60s.
Interesting to see all the Pee Wee love on this thread. Guess it's time to see it again.
So a vote for A Page of Madness , Walking from Munich to Berlin or Ritual in Transfigured Time is inherently more 'conservative' than one for The Godfather, Reservoir Dogs or Jurassic Park? I can't really tackle "better" or "more fascinating", because I'm 99% certain they have no actual substantive meaning in your post. (Beyond the obvious "I feel more comfortable with them")Lighthouse wrote:Similar to the S&S list or the TSPDT list there are too many old films in the list for my taste. Old means here before the 60s. Films are generally better made (= more fascinating) after the 50s.
It was always so that the taste of critics is comparatively conservative, and of course I like my share too of older films, but I always hoped that this will change with a new generation of film lovers, who were raised with newer films. Mhmm ...
Batman Returns all the way for me. I think I even voted for it in the '90s. Certainly aside from Clueless I can't think of a better summary of Hollywood in that decade.Ribs wrote:I think it has an appeal similar to Bottle Rocket where it's clearly of a cohesive voice with his later work but it's just a little bit looser around the edges because Burton hasn't quite found what his thing was quite yet and that makes me prefer it to his (admittedly ridiculously great) follow-ups, which gives it this great air of auteurism and being a serious work of cinema unlike everything around it in my (and others' lists) but it never feels to have such pretensions about its importance.JohnShade wrote:I did a quick control f on the giant 1000 TSPDT list and it seems the majority there was also post-'60s.
Interesting to see all the Pee Wee love on this thread. Guess it's time to see it again.
(Ed Wood would probably also make a general top 20 of mine if it were included[/b], for what it's worth; I think his first 7 are to greater-or-lesser extents perfect and yearn for him to finally have something resembling a comeback)
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