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Re: 1940s List Discussion and Suggestions (Lists Project Vol

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:44 pm
by the preacher
En la palma de tu mano / In the Palm of Your Hand (1951) is another highly recommended noir-related Gavaldón. :wink:

Re: 1940s List Discussion and Suggestions

Posted: Wed May 02, 2018 1:42 am
by Rayon Vert
domino harvey wrote:Arsenic and Old Lace is one of those terrible films inexplicably beloved even by those who don't watch older films.
Just wanted to reply to this in the Newsletter thread to say I'm completely with you... and knives apparently.
knives wrote:Arsenic and Old Lace
Ugg, I usually love Massey, but he's absolutely awful here. Every frame of the movie makes it clear that the play was superior and if not for a wonderful performance by Lorre I'd say this was entirely worthless. It's easily the worst feature that Capra ever did. I won't even bother talking about the other lackluster performances. Just watch The Boogie Man Will Get You instead.
Grant does his best with the material and goes completely hysterical but this is an extremely old fashioned, goofy picture where there isn't a single laugh and it seems to drag on forever. I rated this a D.

Re: 1940s List Discussion and Suggestions

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2025 1:41 am
by domino harvey
knives wrote: Sun Aug 28, 2011 3:06 am I'm not sure how known this one is, but I whole heartily recommend Walter Lang's Star Dust which is a new twist for me on the A Star is Born story mold. Linda Darnell stars as a small town girl who forces her way into Hollywood via her natural charm. This is where the story becomes unique as she's never an Eve nor really broken down like in the proto type. Instead it plays out as a comedy on the bureaucracy of the studio system. The whole idea of training actors to become stars and developing personas for them seems like the biggest joke. No one is deliberately cruel or mean. In fact the whole lot of them are really swell, but they feed into the system which is a nasty piece of business. I think in it's own bizarre way this inevitable killing is more mean than having a bunch of back stabbers looking for an easy kill. At least there there are some defenses that can be utilized.

A large part in how this succeeds in tone is how perfect the performances are. There has to be a certain degree of caustic naivete present with everybody. You don't act like a bad intentionally, but success is predicated on bad behavior so when Darnell gets in a pissing match with the blond she can't even realize that's what she's doing. Roland Young, who really deserves to be better known, is an other case of stupid murder. He's this good willed and gentile Mephistopheles who breeds and molds these young women trying to make the next Garbo. He genuinely cares and sympathizes with these women, at least until the next group flies by his window. That only makes things worse for them though. I'm trying to describe it, but an example might do better. Remember in Hoop Dreams the scout who brings the two boys to the school? Young plays that exact villain, but is somehow even more deluded to his supposed good deeds for these women.

In it's own way it's frightening, yet the movie also captures why it's so alluring. Darnell never gets the bad mojo that lies in her wake with the cogs to stardom being her worst discomforts. It's light and fluffy for a strange, but ultimately rewarding little tale to tell. The film captures it's lead's ignorance perfectly in it's own tone so that the creepy and kooky things that I've been talking about don't seem so bad at first. Hope it seems only makes the poison worse. The experience is akin to a jolly pop song about suicide. You're rocking and having fun like it's a love song singing the words and not connecting their meaning. Only in this song the hints to the true meaning are sometimes too clear. A girl comes out of a room crying with a sad look, only to reveal that the best outcome is the one to happen. The film plays up the question just long enough though for the question of the other option and what it does to a person haunts only to make what comes next all the more nasty. If this is the happy side to stardom than it's not worth it.
I didn’t like Star Dust as much as you (or much at all, really), but I did find it interesting for a couple reasons you don’t touch on. The most obvious being how it tells a glamorized version of Darnell’s own improbable stardom the same year she debuted, highlighting her actual “too old for kid roles, too young for romantic leads” age as well. Fox’s solution IRL to just ignore it and have her play an adult was obv the correct instinct, but I thought this film did Darnell zero favors by building up these great moments of powerful acting and inadvertently showing her as being every bit the bright but overmatched naif she was (these scenes of her Great Acting are, in fact, embarrassingly earnest and impressive in their awfulness). Darnell would eventually find staying power in roles built on a tougher edge of cynicism that requires living life a bit more than one can at sixteen

The other interesting aspect here is Fox getting their money’s worth on their investment in the Grauman’s Chinese Theatre by building the film around it as a framing device of sorts. Probably should have invested a bit more in a better script too, but can’t win em all