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I considered that reading, but the phrasing seemed aimed more in the other direction.

I think there's probably an assumption that I'm a fan of the film given my username, but fun fact: I've never even seen it, even though I'm named after it!

knives wrote: Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:59 pm As for reveling in the violence, so? Even if it were to matter both films take surprisingly similar approaches breaking up the violence to reflect the character's psychology so that it is not presented in a coherent fashion. The difference is whereas Scott breaks up the violence through abstract editing Ramsey does so through elision which makes sense given their respective psychologies.

Personally speaking I found Man of Fire's revelling in its violence and torture sequences undercut any attempt it made to show the psychological and/or crippling effects of the PTSD that Creasy is meant to be grappling with. The movie wants to play up the usual revenge movie tropes, and that's fine, but that's where I do think You Were Never Really Here is going for (and achieving) something different.

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I took the woman that entered Nina's room to be an employee rather than a john. A woman kept there to mother the younger girls. Probably a victim as much as an employee, likely to have been trafficked herself in the past and now being too old to be one of the girls.

You are in all likelihood correct and I overreaching, but I guess I took the "math" and presence in the other rooms to indicate otherwise. If she was a customer, it would/should have been much more clear.