Page 36 of 36
Re: Eclipse Discussion and Random Speculation
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 4:46 am
by beamish14
Matt wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 2:24 am
rrenault wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 7:04 am
Bresson’s Four Nights of a Dreamer
the film prior,
Une femme douce, might as well be a lost film at this point.
Probably still Paramount in North America, and they did release it on VHS during the 90’s. It had a theatrical re-release in France a few years back, so there should be some 2K master
Re: Eclipse Discussion and Random Speculation
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 6:48 am
by Matt
You're totally right. I think it even showed at The Cinematheque in Vancouver just a couple of months ago, in DCP.
Re: Eclipse Discussion and Random Speculation
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 8:21 am
by A Tempted Christ
A
2K restoration does in fact exist and it just recently debuted on disc in
Japan but I have a feeling it might get a new 4K restoration and in that case, I hope they wait until that happens. Not that Criterion has any problem sitting on titles for years.
Re: Eclipse Discussion and Random Speculation
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 10:12 am
by rrenault
Une Femme Douce is available in HD(from the 2K restoration) on the French iTunes/Apple Store if you have a way to access that. So it’s not completely lost.
Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 10:46 am
by brundlefly
criterionsnob wrote: Wed Aug 06, 2025 4:52 pm
They have a backlog of films from Muratova, Chytilová, Zetterling, Eustache, Rozier, Itami. Maybe even the Bimal Roy restorations. I'd love to see all of these in the new Eclipse line.
Yes, this must be where the Roys are going -- though hopefully there's a breakout title for contextual features. (I'm assuming
Do Bigha Zamin, though at least
Devdas deserves discussion/comparison as well.)
TechnicolorAcid wrote: Thu Aug 07, 2025 3:39 am
Very excited for the Eclipse revival, maybe the best announcement this whole year (in a year full of big ones). My biggest wishes will be for the Roziers, the missing Eustaches, the other Youssef Chahine films and the Rene Clair films under Janus to finally be released.
Chahine was my first thought, at least a couple boxes to be had in there.
Re: Eclipse Discussion and Random Speculation
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 12:02 pm
by JSC
Having recently worked my way through the Potemkine DVD set, a Jacques Rozier Eclipse release would be marvellous!
Re: Eclipse Discussion and Random Speculation
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 8:28 pm
by davidhuxley
Here's a Letterboxd list of streaming-only Janus Films programmed into more than 100 possible Eclipse sets. See the header notes.
https://boxd.it/p6Pcq
Re: Eclipse Discussion and Random Speculation
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 10:09 pm
by Matt
A very cool idea, but some of those are real stretches. 'Ere, Guv'na: British Cinema: 1934 – 1955. Hey Dawg, I Heard You Like Japanese Movies: Seven Decades of Japanese Cinema: 1937 – 1998.
Re: Eclipse Discussion and Random Speculation
Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2025 11:07 pm
by domino harvey
I thought the problem with Une femme douce is, or was, that whoever held the rights had specific rules for how it could be screened? Those may no longer be in place
Re: Eclipse Discussion and Random Speculation
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 4:29 pm
by rwiggum
Kinda disappointed this probably means there won't be the rumored Kiarostami complete box but excited nonetheless!
Re: Eclipse Discussion and Random Speculation
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 4:51 pm
by Stefan Andersson
Re: Une femme douce -- there is a 2K DCP shown in the UK in 2019 "c/o Paramount with thanks Park Circus."
https://www.watershed.co.uk/whatson/976 ... emme-douce
Restored by Eclair:
https://2013.festival-lumiere.org/manif ... douce.html
I also remember older rumours that Mylène Bresson wants all Bresson´s films with one rightsholder.
Re: Eclipse Discussion and Random Speculation
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 4:54 pm
by dwk
rwiggum wrote: Sun Aug 10, 2025 4:29 pm
Kinda disappointed this probably means there won't be the rumored Kiarostami complete box but excited nonetheless!
I assume the rape allegations and
Ten plagiarism allegations killed any chance of a complete box.
Re: Eclipse Discussion and Random Speculation
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 5:02 pm
by MichaelB
Stefan Andersson wrote: Sun Aug 10, 2025 4:51 pmI also remember older rumours that Mylène Bresson wants all Bresson´s films with one rightsholder.
"Wants" and "can feasibly have" are not the same thing. I'm sure Criterion would have loved to have been able to include
Face to Face in their Bergman box, but...
(Come to think of it, the same North American rightsholder is involved in both cases!)
Re: Eclipse Discussion and Random Speculation
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 5:27 pm
by dwk
Of course Face to Face was under license to Olive at the time, if not for that, they might have gotten it in the set (see La dolce vita in the Fellini box.) Now that Olive has shut down, it seems like Face to Face would be of interest to Criterion, but that is for a different thread.
Re: Eclipse Discussion and Random Speculation
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:25 pm
by zedz
MichaelB wrote: Sun Aug 10, 2025 5:02 pm
Stefan Andersson wrote: Sun Aug 10, 2025 4:51 pmI also remember older rumours that Mylène Bresson wants all Bresson´s films with one rightsholder.
"Wants" and "can feasibly have" are not the same thing. I'm sure Criterion would have loved to have been able to include
Face to Face in their Bergman box, but...
(Come to think of it, the same North American rightsholder is involved in both cases!)
I can confirm from personal experience that Mylene Bresson was indeed the sticking point with
Une Femme douce. When we organized a Bresson retrospective about twenty years ago all the other films were licensed through regular sales agents and rights holders (itself no mean feat), but
Une Femme douce could not be screened without the express permission of Mylene, and a Paris-based friend of mine had to establish a personal relationship with her before she would approve the screening. (I think she might also have been in control of
Affaires publiques, but we weren't going to include that in the retrospective.)
My understanding is that she blocked most screenings simply because (apparently) Robert Bresson didn't like the film much!
Things may well have changed in the intervening decades, of course.
Re: Eclipse Discussion and Random Speculation
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:47 pm
by Lowry_Sam
zedz wrote: Sun Aug 10, 2025 11:25 pm
I can confirm from personal experience that Mylene Bresson was indeed the sticking point with
Une Femme douce. When we organized a Bresson retrospective about twenty years ago all the other films were licensed through regular sales agents and rights holders...
My understanding is that she blocked most screenings simply because (apparently) Robert Bresson didn't like the film much!
Was this for the Pacific Film Archive? I saw it about 20 years ago in their retrospective. Despite an intriguing synopsis, it ended up being the film of his I enjoyed least, so I would've concurred with Bresson's assessment.
Re: Eclipse Discussion and Random Speculation
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 6:10 am
by Lowry_Sam
Matt wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 4:34 am
I've been hoping for/expecting a Complete Ozu box set...
I was thinking Ozu or Kurosawa might be Criterion's first mixed UHD/blu-ray box, with the lesser titles or poorer restorations being relegated to blu and the new 4k restorations on UHD.
Several of the Sammo Kam-Bo Hung films for this month start with a crazy C, so I wouldn't be surprised to get an eclipse set for him.
Re: Eclipse Discussion and Random Speculation
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 8:13 am
by Calvin
Does Mylene also control Les Anges du péché? Whilst it isn't Bresson's best work by any metric, I'm surprised that his debut feature has never been released by any US or UK label.
Re: Eclipse Discussion and Random Speculation
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 8:22 am
by Calvin
MichaelB wrote:Stefan Andersson wrote: Sun Aug 10, 2025 4:51 pmI also remember older rumours that Mylène Bresson wants all Bresson´s films with one rightsholder.
"Wants" and "can feasibly have" are not the same thing. I'm sure Criterion would have loved to have been able to include
Face to Face in their Bergman box, but...
(Come to think of it, the same North American rightsholder is involved in both cases!)
Interestingly with Face to Face, while Paramount control the theatrical version, Cinematograph AB claims to have worldwide all media rights to the TV series. They have it available to rent digitally
with English subtitles
Re: Eclipse Discussion and Random Speculation
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 1:05 pm
by MichaelB
This is why the Imprint Blu-ray couldn't include the TV version - although I understand enquiries were made.
And when they knew for certain that they couldn't include it, they asked me to make a point of highlighting differences in my commentary, which I was only too happy to do (not least because it was an easy way of filling space with firmly on-topic material!).
Re: Eclipse Discussion and Random Speculation
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2025 2:38 pm
by dwk
Lowry_Sam wrote: Mon Aug 11, 2025 6:10 am
I was thinking Ozu or Kurosawa might be Criterion's first mixed UHD/blu-ray box, with the lesser titles or poorer restorations being relegated to blu and the new 4k restorations on UHD.
Several of the Sammo Kam-Bo Hung films for this month start with a crazy C, so I wouldn't be surprised to get an eclipse set for him.
I guess it depends on what you count as a box set, but the Araki trilogy is mixed with only two of the three films on UHD.
I think HK genre stuff is doing well right now, so I imagine those will get Criterion releases.
Re: Eclipse Discussion and Random Speculation
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2025 1:13 pm
by Tuppence
Everyone's already braced for these being crammed 2-3 films per disc, like Zatoichi and Akerman, right?