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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:40 pm
by colinr0380
I thought I would open a new topic about this film, which is a drama-documentary about illegal Chinese immigrants working as cockel pickers on Morecambe Bay, who drowned when trapped by rising tides, in 2004.

The film seems to be getting good reviews, from surprising quarters. Mark Kermode liked the film (and chose it as his film of the week, just over Last King of Scotland) in his podcast, and he had previously talked about how much he hated Nick Broomfield's previous documentary work.

I would agree somewhat with that. I sometimes feel that Broomfield's work bears the traces of what current reality television has picked up - a use of his camera to observe events while seemingly acting innocent as to the effects his presence is having on his subjects. I also find some of his work unfocused, such as in Kurt And Courtney, the Heidi Fleiss film, or the second Aileen Wuornos film, which seemed to have no other point but to watch her last moments, compared to the first which at least looked at her crimes. I prefer the films where he has been provided with a subject by the environment he has chosen, such as Chicken Ranch, Soldier Girls, Fetishes, Driving Me Crazy, or by an actual aim, such as exploring the deaths of Biggie and Tupac.

However in a strange way I also like his documentaries because really the only subject is Broomfield himself, however narcissistic and detrimental to an insight into his supposed subjects that may be! For example the pursuit (futile or not) of Courtney Love, Eugene Terreblanche, Maggie Thatcher, or his search for what exactly his film is going to be about as he is making it, are the most important aspects to take away from viewing his work. Along with his reaction to capital punishment or his conservatism in literally climbing the wall when threatened with a whip at the end of Fetishes!

The Nick Broomfield: Early Works set released by Optimum is worth getting, as it shows the evolution of this style from the classical detatched observer of Who Cares?, Behind The Rent Strike and Proud To Be British to Driving Me Crazy, where we spend a lot of time looking at the behind the scenes deals taking place to continue the filming and the way he is affecting the rehearsals of the musical.

Kermode was saying how Ghosts, being a dramatised version of real events, feels much more successful than his 'real' documentaries, and I would suggest that is because the dramatisation has allowed Broomfield to remove his presence from in front of the camera, stopping it from being overpowered by being all about him and his reaction (which I guess will still be present in the editorial choices he makes anyway).

Along with that surprising review, I also read a positive review in the anti-immigrant, right wing newspaper par excellence, The Mail on Sunday, which I'll quote here (hopefully I won't have broken any sort of copyright laws by reproducing it, if I have message me and I'll remove it or produce a summary). The review was by Matthew Bond:
Nick Broomfield is a documentary maker who's asked questions of Courtney Love, Hollywood Madam Heidi Fleiss and death row inmate Aileen Wuornos. But here, he employs more traditional techniques to show how 23 Chinese cockle pickers came to drown in Morecambe Bay in 2004.

Broomfield follows the trail of a young Chinese woman, Ai Qin, lured from her home in Fujian province to England by the promise of making money for her baby and family. After a six month journey, she's whisked from the back of a lorry and taken to a tiny house in Norfolk with 12 other illegal workers.

Bribing local job centre workers - all foreigners too - gets them work at a meat factory (scenes that will put you off chicken for life) or pulling up spring onions for supermarkets. The pay is poor and it becomes clear that the debts the illegal workers owe the Snakehead gangs who smuggled them in will never be met.

Broomfield shoots with up-close urgency and authenticity, using the Mandarin language, natural light and non-professional actors - there's a remarkable lead performance by Ai Qin Lin - giving the film a raw, documentary feel.

On the surface, this seems a typical liberal work, pleading understanding for illegal immigrants, but there's also a cry for Britain here - frustration and incomprehension at how this situation came into being, at how supermarket culture hides evil practice. Ghosts may be what the Chinese call white people, but the spectre of a lost England also haunts this film.

Ghosts is most remarkable, however, for the final scenes in Morecambe. Broomfield reconstructs the black horror of the encroaching seas at night, the crash of waves pierced by the screams of people helplessly drowning far from home.
A very impressive review - I'll be interested to see what others think of it!

The last thing that has come to my attention about the film came from my local television news who were saying that the film has been controversial for suggesting that the Chinese workers were working through the night not just because they were less likely to be seen by the authorities, but also because they had been threatened with physical violence by the legitimate cockle pickers during the day.

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:50 pm
by flyonthewall2983
I have Fetishes on DVD, and remember when it was on HBO back in the 90's. To me, looking back, it would have been a more daring documentary if he decided to profile actual couples who practice the lifestyle rather than following the women he does in this film around.

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:18 pm
by brunosh
I saw Ghosts on Friday and was very disappointed. Broomfield's take on this tale of woe - naïve innocents (even the unpleasant ones among them) find themselves out of their depth in face of waves of exploitation, corruption, violence, uncouthness and general unmitigated nastiness. He's looking to lay blame, wanting to chuck stones, but perhaps not himself totally convinced by his partisan and, given the absence of argument presented, seemingly superficial analysis.

The film is not helped by wafer-thin characterisation and (apart from a few moments of promise at the beginning) an absence of visual flair (or any other sort of flair for that matter). It has the dingy feel of an independently (and cheaply) produced TV documentary. I think I will be giving Broomfield's upcoming dramatisation of the battle for Falluja a miss, and instead of Ghosts should have gone to The Last King of Scotland (even if I am a bit sick of Western films with African settings) – from Touching the Void and his Munich Olympics film, it's obvious that Kevin MacDonald could teach Broomfield plenty about dramatic and visual flair.

SPOILER (sorry, I don't know how to do those clever boxes that hide the wording, but this isn't much of a spoiler anyway if you've read colinr0380's post)): by the time a notice at the end of Ghosts told me that the British Government has so far refused to contribute a penny to the £500,000 needed to pay off remaining debts of the bereaved families to the Chinese gangs that helped smuggled the wretched illegals to the UK, I was irritated enough to think that at least the Government has got that one right.

colinr0380, what on earth were you doing reading The Mail on Sunday?

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:14 pm
by colinr0380
brunosh wrote:colinr0380, what on earth were you doing reading The Mail on Sunday?
:oops: Not mine, honest! What can I say - I'm the black sheep of a conservative family (I think I annoy my family sometimes by commenting on how Blair is a better Thatcherite than Thatcher was, and no wonder he gets on so well with right wing Bush! That gets a reaction! :D ), so that paper is around the house. It was a slow Sunday so I flipped through it! It is good for a laugh though! I do usually look at the film reviews each week and remember a few months ago Chris Tookey (the guy who led the campaign against Cronenberg's Crash) had a terrible time when he had to review Rabbit Ears, Eros, Jackass Two, Dirty Sanchez and Destricted in the same week, gave them all 'turkey' ratings, despaired at the state of the world and declared that he was off on holiday for a month to recuperate! Poor guy! :wink:

It is actually good to hear a contrary opinion, since I was surprised by all the positive reviews it got from varied sources when I had been expecting it to be panned. I think it was a Channel 4 production, so I'm sure it will get shown on television in the next few months so I can judge for myself (it sounds from your comments that it might be better suited to being seen on TV?)

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:20 pm
by brunosh
You make me want to read The Mail on Sunday for a bit of light relief when the serious views on this board get too much for me.

Yes, Ghosts would be more suited to being viewed on TV, I think.

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:13 pm
by colinr0380

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:12 am
by Roger_Thornhill
brunosh wrote:I think I will be giving Broomfield's upcoming dramatisation of the battle for Falluja a miss,
A bit off topic but...

He's making a drama about that? Which battle? The one in April 04 or November 04? I'm curious because I've heard of several projects about Fallujah that were/are in the works, including one rumored to star Harrison Ford.

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:21 am
by Antoine Doinel
Roger_Thornhill wrote:
brunosh wrote:I think I will be giving Broomfield's upcoming dramatisation of the battle for Falluja a miss,
A bit off topic but...

He's making a drama about that? Which battle? The one in April 04 or November 04? I'm curious because I've heard of several projects about Fallujah that were/are in the works, including one rumored to star Harrison Ford.
Indiana Jones And The Battle Of Fallujah?

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:02 am
by Roger_Thornhill
Antoine Doinel wrote:Indiana Jones And The Battle Of Fallujah?
:lol:

I knew I was setting that one up. Joke Indiana Jones titles never get old for me, I salute you.

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:45 am
by Dr Amicus
For the benefit of UK (and other viewers) with access to More4 on TV, this is being shown Monday 16th (and probably a week or two later on Channel 4).