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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:04 pm 
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One of cinema’s most dashing duos, real-life spouses Vivien Leigh and Laurence Olivier enact their greatest on-screen romance in this visually dazzling tragic love story from legendary producer-director Alexander Korda. Set against the backdrop of the Napoleonic Wars of the late eighteenth century, That Hamilton Woman is a gripping account of the scandalous adulterous affair between the British Royal Navy officer Lord Horatio Nelson and the renowned beauty Lady Emma Hamilton, the wife of a British ambassador. With its grandly designed sea battles and formidable star performances, Korda’s film (Winston Churchill’s favorite movie, which he claimed to have seen over eighty times) brings history to vivid, glamorous life.

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- New, restored high-definition digital transfer
- Audio commentary featuring noted film historian Ian Christie
- New video interview with author and editor Michael Korda, Alexander’s nephew, who discusses growing up in the Korda family and the making of That Hamilton Woman
- Theatrical trailer
- Alexander Korda Presents, a 1942 promotional radio piece for the film
- PLUS: A booklet featuring an essay by Molly Haskell

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:42 pm 
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It sounds sort of cool what with Olivier and Leigh...but I've never even heard of this. Anyone vouch for this...was this well regarded at the time? Is it one of those things that acquire some sort of reputation years after its initial release?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:59 pm 
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This is such a bland, ho-hum film- I have no idea what Criterion sees in it.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:23 pm 
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I've always had a soft spot for it.

Casually flipping, I notice that the Churchill WW2 biopic starring Brendan Gleeson currently getting a workout on HBO has a scene dramatizing Winnie's love for this film. He's watching it at home with friends/family in a private screening. He keeps interrupting to say something about the history of it, running up to the screen to point something out. It's obviously anything but his first viewing. Cute.

It's lovely to look at, I don't think there's any gainsaying that. If you've any fondness for the contents of the Korda Private Lives set, this is sort of the budgetary big brother to those flicks. Maybe nothing is as bourgeios and expansive as Gone With the Wind, but that's the sort of vibe I think of. Black & White, shorter, shorn of much of the cast of thousands, but aiming for that same sort of period epiccy/romancy feel. Pretty logical followup for Vivien.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:29 pm 
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Wow, Ian Christie and Molly Haskell. I'm intrigued. Plus Churchill seems to have loved it.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:34 pm 
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Excellent! Even if you're not into historical romances (is this one of the earliest examples of a media frenzy over the private lives of the famous?), another commentary by Ian Christie should be a good selling point. Also while I've never really been the biggest fan of Vivien Leigh I feel this is one of her better performances, helped by feeling like she is most appropriate for this role than many of her other, more celebrated turns. And unless Criterion were thinking of licensing the lesser known Fires Over England or 21 Days, this is the only 'major' film starring Leigh and Olivier together.

The one disappointment is that there is no documentary on Nelson and Lady Hamilton. I was sure that the BBC in particular had done an excellent one hour programme on the subject within the last decade but I couldn't turn anything up on a search. However while looking around I did find this brief timeline of events that may be of interest.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:32 am 
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Totally agree with previous comment. This definitely does not belong in the collection. It's a dated, boring early 40's romantic costume drama. This would not rank highly in Korda's films.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:58 pm 
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I was going to call foul on the haters but I'll let Danny Peary in Cult Movies 3 do it for me.

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That Hamilton Woman is truly one of the greatest, most elegant, most mature romance movies. Leigh and Olivier play their scenes with such conviction and passion (the burning volcano in the background conveys their sexual longings) that they make their previous screen romances seem almost artificial, mere preludes ("semifinal" love matches?) to the real thing. I never tire of watching Leigh and Olivier together, and admiring their talents, grace, physical beauty, and sex appeal (no matter that Olivier's Nelson loses an eye and an arm), and trying to detect their feelings for each other when they made this film. So I see the film repeatedly. Still, my devotion doesn't compare to that of critic Andrew Sarris, whose love for the film is legendary. By 1970, as he wrote in the Village Voice, Sarris had already seen the film 83 times--not including television viewings!

Watching Leigh and Olivier play Emma and Nelson, you sense their love and appreciation for each other. It's hard not feeling emotional when Nelson dictates a letter to a deeply moved Emma, telling Lady Nelson that "Lady Hamilton is one of the very best women in the world, and an honor to her sex"; when Emma changes from happy-go-lucky to serious--as she does throughout the film--when she comes on board Nelson's ship and discovers that he lost an eye and arm in battle (her sorrowful expression may be due in part to Leigh being seasick from the rocking boat); when, in an intimate moment at an inn table, she guesses his calm expression denotes "Nelson allowing himself to be just a little bit happy" and he reveals it denotes "Nelson in love"; when she runs onto the Naples balcony to say good-bye to Nelson and, while that volcano spouts in the background, they kiss passionately and Nelson says, "I know that I must not come back...and I know nothing in this world can keep me away"; when, again on the balcony, as 1800 arrives, Emma adds Nelson's name to a list of people who determined eighteenth-century history, and Nelson kisses her, saying, "Now I've kissed you through two centuries"; when the gallant Nelson's first words upon being told he's dying are "Poor Emma--what will become of her?"; and when Emma pulls her shades and faints upon learning of Nelson's death. We see how fulfilling true love is, and how painful it can be.

Alexander Korda's best film is less a glorification of Nelson than a tribute to the bravery, intelligence, and resourcefulness of women. I think Korda was playing up to American women, whom he wanted to send their men into war against the Nazis. He wanted them to relate to Emma, who begins as a manipulative, self-obsessed, self-impressed young woman concerned only with bettering her own lot in life, but ends up giving up the man she loves (who loves her greatly but loves his country even more) and her happiness for the sake of the world.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:20 pm 

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Years since I've seen it but my recollection is unless you're interested in the Empire itself or a version of its cinematic idealizing--it's down to the actors. I agree it's not their best film together (Fires, to my mind), but they have an undeniable (by me, he quickly self-corrected) chemistry. If you find Olivier a blowhard showoff, or see more simper than vulnerability in Leigh, run. Me, I love em both.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:53 am 
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John Cope wrote:
I was going to call foul on the haters but I'll let Danny Peary in Cult Movies 3 do it for me.

As usual, he covers it all nicely.

I was going to mention the film's inclusion, to answer Tribe's initial question about its status as something worthy of being in the Collection. Thanks for going the extra mile and including a trenchant quote.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:07 am 
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Well, at least Peary's convincing appreciation and ezmbmh's comment on the subtextual politics of the film make it sound more interesting. I think that Sarris seeing it eighty-three times says more about Sarris than the film itself, though.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 6:30 pm 
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Check out the Beaver on That Hamilton Woman


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:30 pm 
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HelenLawson wrote:
Check out the Beaver on That Hamilton Woman

You've been bottling that one up since the title was announced, haven't you?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:16 am 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:08 am 
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zedz wrote:
HelenLawson wrote:
Check out the Beaver on That Hamilton Woman

You've been bottling that one up since the title was announced, haven't you?

In the immortal words of Toby Ziegler, "There's nothing you can do about a joke like that. You see it coming and you just have to stand there."


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:13 pm 
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Watched this today at work instead of working. It wasn't "Watch 70 times good," but I did enjoy it more than I thought I would. I suspect a lot of its fandom boils down to people crushing on Vivien Leigh's character? She's quite a strong and sassy presence in the film and its easy to picture Sarris absently writing her name in a heart on his notebook.


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Watched this last night, and quite liked it, but not as much as I thought I would given my usual predeliction for this kind of old-fashioned costume dramas. The problem is that it's a bit too slow-paced and and bit too long with its 125 minutes, losing a little bit of focus and dramatic tension in its last half hour. But still there's much to enjoy here: glorious sets and fine cinematography, and whatever you think of Leigh's acting capabilities, she is simply unbelievably beautiful in this film. The propaganda bits are far more subdued than in "The Four Feathers" and didn't annoy me at all. Criterion's transfer is all right, too, but the image has a certain 'digital' look -for want of a better word -, probably due to too much clean-up (what remains of the scratches seems to indicate that the print was badly battered in its original state).

Anyhow, certainly recommended if you like this kind of stuff. But for a greater film on the same story, check out Frank Lloyd's 1929 silent version "The Divine Lady", available from Warner Archive. Shorter, more densely written, and starring a leading lady - Corinne Griffith - who is almost as stunning as Leigh.


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