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#2251 Post by **Matt** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:22 pm

jindianajonz wrote:Post number 9, from July, says that Mulvaney confirmed Stalker. This and the fact that the posts I originally referenced went out of their way to emphasize DVD distribution rights certainly seem to lend support to bamwc2's story.

No, you're right. I told you I am unreliable. Then again, it's HTF, so...

bamwc2 · #2252 Post by **bamwc2** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:42 pm

Huzzah! Old man memory works again! Now if I really dig back, I think that the alleged acquisition of both films made it on to Criterion's home page in 2001 as one of their forthcoming announcements on the bottom of the screen (like they did on April Fools Day with Ran around the same time). When only Solaris showed up, the kerfuffle began, and Mulvaney--who can be quite talky when he wants to--spilled the beans. Also, I was president of the United States back then and dating several supermodels...I think.

bainbridgezu · #2253 Post by **bainbridgezu** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:45 pm

It could be worth noting that the Image-distributed edition of Stalker was released in 2002, with the Kino first appearing in 2006. Kino has already said that they do not have the blu-ray rights to Stalker, and have expressed no interest (publicly, at least) in obtaining them. If Rusico is licensing the film in four-year contracts, Kino's second term will be coming up late next year. Having released The Sacrifice on Blu-ray, with (vague) plans for The Mirror and Nostalghia, it seems strange that they would hold onto the film for future DVD-only releases. Perhaps Stalker will be the next Persona?

FrauBlucher · #2254 Post by **FrauBlucher** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:59 pm

swo17 wrote:How could Criterion being interested in Stalker ever be in question?

Sorry swo17, I wasn't doubting Criterion's interest in Stalker. I have no doubt that it's a film they would love to release. My comment was aimed at the HTF thread's info or lack there of on the matter.

I certainly hope Stalker gets released from CC and for the fact that Kino has said they don't have the rights makes a CC release possible.

jindianajonz · #2255 Post by **jindianajonz** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:08 pm

FrauBlucher wrote:Bamwc2 then added another HTF link of a post that had Mulvaney's comments.

Er, did I miss something? I'm not seeing that in this thread...

ianungstad · #2256 Post by **ianungstad** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:55 am

Westchester films updated their website with their full catalogue. They added some good films that I wonder if Criterion might have picked up:

A Taste of Honey (Tony Richardson)
Raw Deal (Anthony Mann)
T-Men (Anthony Mann)

Minkin · #2257 Post by **Minkin** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:31 am

ianungstad wrote:Westchester films updated their website with their full catalogue.

Sheesh, I had no idea they owned so much stuff. There's a lot of great titles in there (some are public domain though, so one has to wonder if they really are the true license holders - like Atom Age Vampire, etc, but if they are, then all the better).

I wasn't aware that they had several other Godzilla films- which I certainly hope make their way to Criterion. For those interested, here's a few more to add to Ian's list:

RODAN - 1956
NIGHT IN CASABLANCA - 1946
BLOOD WATERS OF DR. Z - 1972

AFRICA SCREAMS - 1949
GHIDRAH: THE THREE HEADED MONSTER - 1964
GODZILLA VS. MONSTER ZERO - 1965
GODZILLA VS. MOTHRA - 1964
GODZILLA RAIDS AGAIN - 1955
GODZILLA'S REVENGE - 1969
THE WAR OF THE GARANTUAS - 1966
TOMB OF TORTURE - 1965
The two Monte Hellman titles that we know are forthcoming: (Ride in the Whirlwind/The Shooting)

There's a ton more stuff, so perhaps someone more familiar with all of these films (mostly American studio stuffs), could browse through their site
Also note that some of the films (that I suspect Criterion passed on), have already been licensed elsewhere - BMX Bandits, Circle of Iron, A Boy and his Dog, etc.

dwk · #2258 Post by **dwk** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:42 am

Unless something has changed (and something may have changed), Westchester only has the streaming and broadcast rights to those Godzilla/kaiju films.

ianungstad · #2259 Post by **ianungstad** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:39 pm

Classic Media was bought out late last year by Dreamworks Animation. I think Dreamworks just took the animation library and the rights to those characters. They probably didn't care for the rights to the old live action stuff and let Westchester have the Godzilla films and films like Room at the Top, A Taste of Honey, T-Men, Raw Deal and I;Mobster.

While a lot of those studio films are public domain titles; Westchester does rep official rights. Most have been licensed to Henstooth.

matrixschmatrix · Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:34 pm

Isn't Room at the Top on Criterion's Hulu?

knives · #2261 Post by **knives** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:06 pm

ianungstad · #2262 Post by **ianungstad** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:10 am

Criterion chat at Wexner Center on Nov.19!

The link also reveals that Criterion will be releasing Wes Anderson's The Fantastic Mr. Fox in the near future.

jindianajonz · #2263 Post by **jindianajonz** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:15 am

Hopefully it will be paired with Moonrise Kingdom in the same month!

chatterjees · #2264 Post by **chatterjees** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:26 am

I will definitely buy Moonrise Kingdom Criterion BD, but I'm not really excited about The Fantastic Mr. Fox.

ianungstad · #2265 Post by **ianungstad** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:46 am

Well; it's at least confirmation that they are about to release a bunch of new FOX titles.

rwiggum · #2266 Post by **rwiggum** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:14 am

ianungstad wrote:Well; it's at least confirmation that they are about to release a bunch of new FOX titles.

Any ideas what else could be coming down the pipeline?

ianungstad · #2267 Post by **ianungstad** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:26 am

The speculation is that Barton Fink is also coming soon.

Based off phantom pages there has been speculation about Phantom of the Paradise; Beyond the Valley of the Dolls; All that Jazz and a few other titles.

giovannii84 · #2268 Post by **giovannii84** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:27 am

I wonder if "Fantastic Mr Fox" will be announced next week with the Jan releases.
It would be cool if this had some Roald Dahl inspired extras. For example some of the animated short films based on some of his other books 'Revolting Rhymes', 'The Magic Finger', etc

giovannii84 · #2269 Post by **giovannii84** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:30 am

ianungstad wrote:The speculation is that Barton Fink is also coming soon.

Based off phantom pages there has been speculation about Phantom of the Paradise; Beyond the Valley of the Dolls; All that Jazz and a few other titles.

I've always believed 'All That Jazz' should be part of the Collection. We definitely need some Bob Fosse in there.

Bando · #2270 Post by **Bando** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:13 am

chatterjees wrote:I will definitely buy Moonrise Kingdom Criterion BD, but I'm not really excited about The Fantastic Mr. Fox.

And miss out on the inevitable, guaranteed-awesome Whackbat special feature?

Red Screamer · #2271 Post by **Red Screamer** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:24 am

If/when Fantastic Mr. Fox enters the Collection would it be considered the first animated release by Criterion?

#2272 Post by **swo17** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:26 am

Even if you don't count Brakhage's painted films as animation, there's at least Bluebeard from the Painlevé set.

giovannii84 · #2273 Post by **giovannii84** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:20 am

Speaking of animated releases, I'd like to see a Criterion release of "Fantastic Planet".

Bruce · #2274 Post by **Bruce** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:28 am

ianungstad wrote:Well; it's at least confirmation that they are about to release a bunch of new FOX titles.

Is there any chance that Criterion may have licensed 'Hombre' or 'Julia' for example?

eerik · #2275 Post by **eerik** » Sat Oct 12, 2013 10:00 am

Superswede11 wrote:If/when Fantastic Mr. Fox enters the Collection would it be considered the first animated release by Criterion?

They released Akira on laserdisc in 1992.

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