BD 256 Johnny Guitar
- ChunkyLover
- Joined: Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:22 pm
BD 256 Johnny Guitar
SPECIAL FEATURES
Limited Edition Hardbound Slipcase [3000 copies]
1080p presentation on Blu-ray from a 4K restoration of the original film elements, framed in the film’s originally intended aspect ratio of 1.66:1
Brand new commentary by critic Geoff Andrew, author of The Films of Nicholas Ray: The Poet of Nightfall, newly recorded for this release
Brand new video piece by Tony Rayns
Brand new video essay by David Cairns
Brand new interview with Susan Ray
Archival introduction to Johnny Guitar by Martin Scorsese
Trailer
A LIMITED EDITION 60-page collector’s book featuring new essays on the making of Johnny Guitar and on female gunslingers in the western genre, both by western expert Howard Hughes; an essay by Jonathan Rosenbaum; and archival writing and ephemera [3000 copies]
All extras subject to Change
-
- Joined: Tue Dec 26, 2017 5:35 am
Re: BD 256 Johnny Guitar
I have to ask anyways but is this gonna be region locked?
- Drucker
- Your Future our Drucker
- Joined: Wed May 18, 2011 9:37 am
Re: BD 256 Johnny Guitar
Almost certainly. There's an OLIVE release in Region A.
- Maltic
- Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:36 am
Re: BD 256 Johnny Guitar
Andrew did a commentary for the Olive one too, but there was room for improvement, as far as I can remember. Or maybe it's just that this movie never truly clicked for me (I like it and all, but...)
- OldBobbyPeru
- Joined: Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:15 am
Re: BD 256 Johnny Guitar
Does anyone know if this is using the same restoration as the Olive edition?
- L.A.
- Joined: Thu May 28, 2009 7:33 am
- Location: Helsinki, Finland
Re: BD 256 Johnny Guitar
Just managed to watch Godard’s La Chinoise and JG was actually mentioned. Great scene.
- therewillbeblus
- Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:40 pm
Re: BD 256 Johnny Guitar
Godard references the film several of his works- Pierrot le fou being my favorite usage. I just revisited La chinoise as well (first with Quandt's strong commentary on the Arrow disc, then by itself), and this scene is particularly interesting because Godard seemed to have the most negative views on Henri's character out of the group of revolutionaries, diagnosing him as the static one, closing his peripheries to necessary political adaptation while the others morph (imperfectly, but at least they engage in challenging complacency as a core value); and yet Henri's wry observation in that clip seems to be a point of identification for Godard! But who knows what he actually felt then vs later, and the man was never above self-critique or moving the goalposts around the grey portrait of the world objectively, so I try to take any concrete position from an interview with a grain of salt, since it could've changed the next year/day.L.A. wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:12 pmJust managed to watch Godard’s La Chinoise and JG was actually mentioned. Great scene.
-
- Joined: Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:12 am
Re: BD 256 Johnny Guitar
An MoC release of this has felt like an inevitability. I'm glad to see it's finally coming. It would have been nice to get João César Monteiro's Passeio com Johnny Guitar as an extra.
I can't imagine there would have been another 4K restoration done, so the answer is almost certainly yesOldBobbyPeru wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:05 pmDoes anyone know if this is using the same restoration as the Olive edition?
- Jean-Luc Garbo
- Joined: Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:55 am
- Contact:
Re: BD 256 Johnny Guitar
"Brand new audio commentary by film scholar Adrian Martin" now listed as an extra!
- therewillbeblus
- Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:40 pm
Re: BD 256 Johnny Guitar
Cue the auto double dip meter
- Maltic
- Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:36 am
Re: BD 256 Johnny Guitar
If the film doesn't click for me now, it never will
- therewillbeblus
- Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2015 3:40 pm
Re: BD 256 Johnny Guitar
I similarly never understood the appeal of this one until roughly five years ago when it clicked and became an all-time favorite for a few viewings. I revisited it a year or so ago for the 50s project and found it lost some of its appeal again, but I still think it’s pretty great as a regurgitation of pure emotion. At the very least, Adrian Martin’s commentaries have the power to make me suddenly appreciate films I’ve seen many times and never enjoyed before (Preminger’s Fallen Angels being the most recent example)
- What A Disgrace
- Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2004 10:34 pm
- Contact:
Re: BD 256 Johnny Guitar
Geoff Andrew's commentary has been reduced to an introduction, as a trade off.
- Cash Flagg
- Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:15 pm
Re: BD 256 Johnny Guitar
This will be a six-dip for me
- domino harvey
- Dot Com Dom
- Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2006 2:42 pm
Re: BD 256 Johnny Guitar
I think it'd be a fourth dip for me, which is too many. I'm sticking with my homemade double Olive Bu-ray pack, though I'm sure Martin's commentary will provide value for those who can't resist another bite of the apple
- colinr0380
- Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:30 pm
- Location: Chapel-en-le-Frith, Derbyshire, UK
Re: BD 256 Johnny Guitar
This is an amazing western, constantly upending norms all over the place and doing so in such a vibrantly colourfully symbolistic way. It is such a big feeling film for something so intimately, emotionally scaled as well. Probably the biggest upended norm is Sterling Hayden as the title character of the film being bizarrely, but wonderfully, sidelined almost immediately after his first scene inside Vienna's casino. It is as if the film just naturally drifts away from the nice-but-dull lunk to stop and gaze in awe at Vienna instead, ruling imperiously as a self-made woman over her casino, and deigning to offer all these guys jobs working for her as her employees/lackeys. Even the 'romance' with Johnny Guitar is less shown through his eyes but rather more hers, being unable to prevent herself from showing interest in him yet needing to not compromise herself too much to keep the power dynamic working in her favour, like a western reincarnation of Cleopatra.
The main conflict doesn't come from men in particular (who know their place) but from the black clad Puritanical, masculine clothed (compared to white dressed, at least until she changes to match for the final duel, Vienna) figure of Emma played magnificently by Mercedes McCambridge. Her performance is an amazing mix of hyperbolic, hypocritical disgust, jealousy, shivering sexual obsession(?) and pure sadistic delight in destruction of Vienna, as if hating Vienna's use of her feminine wiles and sexuality (and pandering to gambling) in order to get her way, which are the aspects that Emma herself has suppressed to dominate her own band of employee-lackey men into doing her bidding.
In its final section after Emma destroys her saloon, Vienna disappointingly does fall into the 'needing to be saved by a man' mode for a time (the only section beyond the opening scene where Johnny Guitar really does anything important is in his spiriting of Vienna away from the conflagration), but then the film gets amazing again with the final duel scene where the men are again sidelined for the two women to stand off and finish their conflict between each other once and for all.
It is fascinating to consider how this would work in a double bill with There Will Be Blood! It is sort of about the same ideas of ideologically opposed hegemonies embodied in the main characters battling it out for control of the future direction that the new frontier will take.
The main conflict doesn't come from men in particular (who know their place) but from the black clad Puritanical, masculine clothed (compared to white dressed, at least until she changes to match for the final duel, Vienna) figure of Emma played magnificently by Mercedes McCambridge. Her performance is an amazing mix of hyperbolic, hypocritical disgust, jealousy, shivering sexual obsession(?) and pure sadistic delight in destruction of Vienna, as if hating Vienna's use of her feminine wiles and sexuality (and pandering to gambling) in order to get her way, which are the aspects that Emma herself has suppressed to dominate her own band of employee-lackey men into doing her bidding.
In its final section after Emma destroys her saloon, Vienna disappointingly does fall into the 'needing to be saved by a man' mode for a time (the only section beyond the opening scene where Johnny Guitar really does anything important is in his spiriting of Vienna away from the conflagration), but then the film gets amazing again with the final duel scene where the men are again sidelined for the two women to stand off and finish their conflict between each other once and for all.
It is fascinating to consider how this would work in a double bill with There Will Be Blood! It is sort of about the same ideas of ideologically opposed hegemonies embodied in the main characters battling it out for control of the future direction that the new frontier will take.
- Maltic
- Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:36 am
Re: BD 256 Johnny Guitar
Ageing-female-star-centred Westerns were a thing.. Dietrich in Rancho Notorious and Stanwyck in Forty Guns, but I guess the characters still had to either die or get married in the end.
- colinr0380
- Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:30 pm
- Location: Chapel-en-le-Frith, Derbyshire, UK
- FrauBlucher
- Joined: Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:28 pm
- Location: Greenwich Village
- Cash Flagg
- Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:15 pm
Re: BD 256 Johnny Guitar
Well, that settles it then!I have to quickly address a very popular myth about Nicholas Ray's film Johnny Guitar, which is that it is a very smart piece of satire that carefully targeted McCarthyism. The film can work as a satire, but the political overtones that supposedly reveal its true identity quite simply do not exist.
- ChunkyLover
- Joined: Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:22 pm
Re: BD 256 Johnny Guitar
I guess the Adrian Martin commentary was dropped? Either that or Svet didn't list it.
-
- Joined: Wed May 01, 2013 1:27 pm
Re: BD 256 Johnny Guitar
It still says it on the Eureka website. I've found that blu-ray.com isn't always reliable when it comes to extras. I pre-ordered it so I guess I'll found out when it ships out and arrives.ChunkyLover wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:06 amI guess the Adrian Martin commentary was dropped? Either that or Svet didn't list it.
- A man stayed-put
- Joined: Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:21 am
Re: BD 256 Johnny Guitar
In the Screenshots section it shows a menu screen with the Martin commentary as an option, so looks like just a review omission.
- ChunkyLover
- Joined: Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:22 pm
Re: BD 256 Johnny Guitar
Ah, I hadn't scrolled through the screenshots all the way through.A man stayed-put wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 12:14 pmIn the Screenshots section it shows a menu screen with the Martin commentary as an option, so looks like just a review omission.
- tenia
- Ask Me About My Bassoon
- Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:13 am
Re: BD 256 Johnny Guitar
It's OK, it looks like the person who took them and uploaded them didn't either.