Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#3676 Post by therewillbeblus » Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:54 pm

Yeah, beat me to the post. Though if Les bonnes femmes is with Criterion to release, I'm down. This masterpiece just needs to go to print already.

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#3677 Post by domino harvey » Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:01 pm

I mean, if Criterion wants to highlight a female-focused film that feels sadly timeless in its social critiques, it would be an obvious choice. But Criterion already passed on all the Chabrols hVe released, including La ceremonie, so who knows

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#3678 Post by therewillbeblus » Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:10 pm

I'd be thrilled with any label releasing it, but the hope would be the longer cut (not that anyone would, at least in full, without an ability to translate that joke properly).

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#3679 Post by domino harvey » Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:19 pm

Since they’d be using what SC gives them, I think it will be uncut no matter who releases it— will be interesting to see how they go about translating it though

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#3680 Post by jwd5275 » Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:09 pm

In case anyone is curious about what is likely in the Hakim brothers library: Robert Hakim

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#3681 Post by Noiradelic » Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:10 pm

domino harvey wrote:
Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:01 pm
But Criterion already passed on all the Chabrols hVe released, including La ceremonie, so who knows
They've had La ceremonie in their streaming library since the Hulu days (possibly when the dedicated channel launched), so I actually think it has a good chance of getting released eventually. However, your point fully stands in regard to any of the other hVe Chabrols.

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#3682 Post by jwd5275 » Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:19 pm

Masques and Une Affaire de femmes have been streaming for a long time too

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#3683 Post by Noiradelic » Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:20 pm

I forgot -- Masques been up since the Hulu era too.

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#3684 Post by therewillbeblus » Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:39 pm

The real question is whether or not Juste avant la nuit is coming

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#3685 Post by whaleallright » Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:08 pm

Chabrol def. seems in danger of being nearly forgotten outside of France -- so many excellent films across a long career, so few of them in circulation. For many years he was pretty dependable arthouse business, too.

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#3686 Post by therewillbeblus » Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:17 pm

He’s also arguably the most accessible nouvelle vague filmmaker to mainstream audiences, earning his French Hitchcock stamp. I can think of plenty of his output that would appeal to most anyone that is willing to read subtitles, so his absence in the market has always puzzled me.

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#3687 Post by NABOB OF NOWHERE » Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:56 pm

therewillbeblus wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:17 pm
He’s also arguably the most accessible nouvelle vague filmmaker to mainstream audiences, earning his French Hitchcock stamp. I can think of plenty of his output that would appeal to most anyone that is willing to read subtitles, so his absence in the market has always puzzled me.
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Are there any Chabrol restorations on the horizon anywhere?
Restoration funds were made available 4-5 years ago for the Artedis titles but rights issues have stalled the progress
As far as I know nothing's changed. Maybe Tenia has more up to date info?

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#3688 Post by tenia » Sat Jun 13, 2020 3:15 pm

Having recently seen popping up again the related 2018 Canard enchainé's article about how the Chabrol's restorations were stuck, I don't think anything has changed.
Artedis own 14 movies, including Que la bête meure, Le boucher, Nada, Les biches, La femme infidèle, La rupture, La décade prodigieuse, Les noces rouges and Juste avant la nuit.
Fundings were given (900k€) in 2012 and 2013, but only Le boucher was restored in 2016, but when the restoration was screened, Stephane Audran saw it and deemed it absolutely awful.
It is said that Le boucher (I guess through the awful restoration), Les biches (whose rights aren't even owned by Artedis anymore), Que la bête meure and La femme infidèle are restored.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#3689 Post by knives » Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:04 pm

Honestly, in America, there are more good quality editions of Chabrol then ever before. He just happened to make a lot of movies so naturally a lot are going to fall through.

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#3690 Post by swo17 » Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:59 pm

knives wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:04 pm
Honestly, in America, there are more good quality editions of Chabrol then ever before. He just happened to make a lot of movies so naturally a lot are going to fall through.
True, although glaringly none of it is from arguably his most crucial period, 1968-1975

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#3691 Post by knives » Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:11 pm

That's definitely disappointing and none of my top ten from the list have been either. Still, it's far from the worst fays to be a fan of his so I'm at least somewhat placated. Nonetheless if some enterprising company would like to do a release of the HVE titles and Cry of the Owl I won't complain.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#3692 Post by whaleallright » Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:48 pm

right, after I posted I realized that his earliest and latest periods are decently (not ideally) represented on home video, but arguably his most fertile creative period is not. I was rewatching the Pathfinder(?) DVD of La rupture a litle while back and it looked, if you'll pardon my French, like sh*t.

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#3693 Post by FrauBlucher » Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:14 pm

Two Dassin upgrades coming

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#3694 Post by soundchaser » Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:15 pm

As are Beau travail, Christ Stopped at Eboli, and The Elephant Man. Did anyone get a single title right this month?

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#3695 Post by therewillbeblus » Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:17 pm

And Martin Scorsese's World Cinema Project 3- Bressonaire strikes again!

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#3696 Post by Clarence » Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:20 pm

Beau Travail!!!

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#3697 Post by Drucker » Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:31 pm

Incredible month

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#3698 Post by therewillbeblus » Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:39 pm

I realize I'm the outlier here, but I don't love any of these films as much as most do (Beau Travail is very welcome though). Some of the non-Pixote WCP titles sound interesting, but I'm just happy for all those die-hard Elephant Man fans out there who have been itching for this one for years, even if I may never understand why.

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#3699 Post by Saturnome » Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:39 pm

I'm happy that we get a volume 3 of the World Project (Soleil O!!), and Beau Travail. So happy that I may blind buy some other releases as well. I don't know a thing about Christ Stopped at Eboli or Dassin outside of Rififi.
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#3700 Post by FrauBlucher » Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:40 pm

Glad to see another Rialto get a release

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