Gone with the Wind (Victor Fleming, 1939)

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Re: Gone With The Wind

#26 Post by dx23 » Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:11 pm

Matt wrote:Just so we're clear, there is only one Blu-ray release and it's the big, expensive orgy of featurettes, right?
The same with Wizard of Oz. Casablanca was the same situation, but Warner recently announced that they are releasing a single disc Blu-ray. I imagine that in 2010, will get individual, single disc releases of these films on BD.

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Re: Gone With The Wind

#27 Post by perkizitore » Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:43 pm

I am glad that in the UK they don't release those ridiculous boxsets.
Buy the UK ones for 25$ each :P
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Re: Gone With The Wind

#28 Post by atcolomb » Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:46 pm

perkizitore wrote:
dx23 wrote:
Matt wrote:Just so we're clear, there is only one Blu-ray release and it's the big, expensive orgy of featurettes, right?
The same with Wizard of Oz. Casablanca was the same situation, but Warner recently announced that they are releasing a single disc Blu-ray. I imagine that in 2010, will get individual, single disc releases of these films on BD.
Buy the UK ones for 25$ each :P
...But the extras...are they in PAL system?....i saw it too at Amazon.UK

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Re: Gone With The Wind

#29 Post by perkizitore » Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:44 am

atcolomb wrote:...But the extras...are they in PAL system?....i saw it too at Amazon.UK
Probably, if the DVDs are simply duplicates of the previous UK SD edition.
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Re: Gone With The Wind

#30 Post by SuperBlu » Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:49 pm

Anyone who already own the GWTW 4-disc SD and Oz 3-disc SD and are still going to buy the blu-rays for both?

Yes on both counts for me. Even the blu-rays will have most of the extras that I already have, the new extras on the blu-rays are dangling just enough of a carrot to tempt me into buying the films all over again.

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Re: Gone With The Wind

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Re: Gone With The Wind

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Re: Gone With The Wind

#33 Post by scotty2 » Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:57 pm

It's too bad Warners isn't interested in providing extra material that places GWTW in the context of the Lost Cause ideology of Civil War memory. This film has perpetuated an interpretation of the Civil War and Reconstruction that would provide fascinating material for a documentary. A film that declares its fidelity to history ought to be fair game for a discussion of its view of the war, its causes, and why both sections of the country could agree on the losing side's interpretation. 15 hours of stuff and no discussion of this, as far as I can tell.

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Re: Gone With The Wind

#34 Post by movielocke » Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:15 am

Will Barks wrote:DVDbeaver review
they really should provide a comparison from that famous crane shot of the hospital that ends on the confederate flag. You really would see a huge difference in detail in that, which SD doesn't resolve nearly as well. That was the shot that made me gasp when I saw it in 35mm

The color looks superb in the new version, particularly telling is the final comparison of mammy.

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Re: Gone With The Wind

#35 Post by Matt » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:55 am

So, still no details on any stripped-down Target/Walmart exclusive Blu-rays of this title?

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Re: Gone With The Wind

#36 Post by Napier » Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:53 am

Matt wrote:So, still no details on any stripped-down Target/Walmart exclusive Blu-rays of this title?
I pre-ordered the "Mega Collector Set" for 50% off or so. About $40. Not too bad in my opinion.

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Re: Gone With The Wind

#37 Post by perkizitore » Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:22 am

The UK version is pretty cheap, wait a few months it will come down to 10£.
I think in the new year, a GWTW non-boxset edition will emerge, if it follows the same pattern with Casablanca.
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Re: Gone With The Wind

#38 Post by dx23 » Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:45 pm

Matt wrote:So, still no details on any stripped-down Target/Walmart exclusive Blu-rays of this title?
Only 1 disc with the Commentary. No more extras whatsoever. Not really worth the $30 Target is asking for it. Still, you can get it fro $12.99 next Friday.

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Re: Gone With The Wind

#39 Post by unclehulot » Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:38 am

dx23 wrote:
Matt wrote:So, still no details on any stripped-down Target/Walmart exclusive Blu-rays of this title?
Only 1 disc with the Commentary. No more extras whatsoever. Not really worth the $30 Target is asking for it. Still, you can get it fro $12.99 next Friday.
Are there any NEW extras besides the tv movie on the Blu that were not included in the 4 dvd version from a few years ago?

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Re: Gone With The Wind

#40 Post by Gregor Samsa » Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:31 am

unclehulot wrote:
dx23 wrote:
Matt wrote:So, still no details on any stripped-down Target/Walmart exclusive Blu-rays of this title?
Only 1 disc with the Commentary. No more extras whatsoever. Not really worth the $30 Target is asking for it. Still, you can get it fro $12.99 next Friday.
Are there any NEW extras besides the tv movie on the Blu that were not included in the 4 dvd version from a few years ago?
There's also a documentary on movies from 1939, one on GWTW's legacy, and the 6-hour MGM: When The Lion Roars.

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Re: Gone With The Wind

#41 Post by dx23 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:42 am


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Re: Gone With The Wind

#42 Post by Nasir007 » Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:43 pm

This film is tainted for ever. We will never see this film the same way again.

But there is one way to save the picture so to say - or to recast it - that is as something it has always been and the way I first perceived it - a character study of Scarlett.

Meaning the history and representation and the point of view of the movie will never not be problematic or offensive, but if we can derive a lens through which to view the picture so that it is tolerable - it will be this lens.

I say this only to share this marvelous piece I came across.

I think this piece articulates something that I have rarely seen expressed as well.

Beyond all the epic trappings of the film and what have you - in the movie we have certainly the most titanic, most monstrous, most all-consuming lead character we have ever seen in movies almost. Scarlett is bigger than Daniel Planview or Lawrence or the Corleones. She is the simply the biggest movie character the movies have ever spit out and that can be a point of entry for wary audiences who still want a way into this supremely problematic picture.

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Re: Gone With The Wind

#43 Post by HinkyDinkyTruesmith » Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:21 pm

The film was "tainted" the day it premiered.

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Re: Gone With The Wind

#44 Post by Red Screamer » Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:47 pm

I've heard Molly Haskell's book on the film is an an-depth, ambivalent reconsideration of many aspects of the film and cultural phenomenon (even earning praise from Olivia de Havilland), but I haven't gotten around to it yet myself.

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Re: Gone With The Wind

#45 Post by Nasir007 » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:05 pm

HinkyDinkyTruesmith wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:21 pm
The film was "tainted" the day it premiered.
Arguably the day it was greenlit.

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Re: Gone with the Wind (Victor Fleming, 1939)

#46 Post by Big Ben » Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:18 am

I think it's particularity bad when you consider that former slaves and Civil War veterans were still alive when the film was made and that the film essentially spends four hours attempting to get you to sympathize with people who owned the aforementioned slaves as property. Gone With the Wind is important from a cultural standpoint (As an example of shit that would never be touched now) but the film itself is not in any way shape or form morally redeemable in my eyes.

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Re: Gone with the Wind (Victor Fleming, 1939)

#47 Post by Michael Kerpan » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:06 am

GWTW's appealingly glossy romanticism made its propagation of the Lost Cause myth far more harmful than the in-your-face Birth of a Nation (which was, of course, also immensely damaging).

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