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Re: Awards Season 2016

#801 Post by Ribs » Mon Feb 27, 2017 5:53 pm

I think one big takeaway from this is to go back to having BP presented alone, as it usually has been (they announced Beatty beforehand, which is weird, because I always enjoyed predicting-the-presenter as a fun side-game to the regular Oscar pool). Will lead to just less general confusion (it won't happen ever again, anyway, but this seems like an easy step they'll take). I *love* the perfectness of it being Warren Beatty for having that weird Mayor-of-Hollywood, what-kooky-adventures-is-he-up-to-now vibe that makes the whole thing seem just a little bit more hilarious. I think it's an underrated part of this whole thing - if they got Tom Hanks or whomever and the same thing happened it might not have proceeded like it did but it'd be a lot less fun.

It'll be *really* interesting to see how much this impacts Moonlight's box office as it inevitably goes wide again this weekend. Though it's already out on BD/VOD the past few winners have been too and still jumped $5 million, and they didn't have the benefits of already being not very well seen, this crazy publicity of this being a major story all day today, or the almost out-of-nowhere surprise of it. I could honestly imagine it getting up to over $30 million, increasing its take almost 50%.

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Re: Awards Season 2016

#802 Post by movielocke » Mon Feb 27, 2017 6:23 pm

Jason Horowitz, everyone is going to want to work with him now. He's got a golden ticket for the next few years, what a display of calm and decisiveness and grace in chaos. Who wouldn't want to work with a producer like that?

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#803 Post by MichaelB » Mon Feb 27, 2017 6:34 pm

Dr Amicus wrote:Incidentally, I can't find it on the net (and am at work anyway), but there is a great Mel Smith / Griff Rhys Jones sketch where Smith is an Oscar Nominee who unexpectedly wins and Jones is the presenter - as Smith gives an emotional thank-you speech, Jones realises he's read out the wrong name...
If I remember rightly, that was partly inspired by a real-life incident when the BAFTA for Best Screenplay was announced and Colin Welland (Chariots of Fire) was already out of his seat when Bill Forsyth's name was read out (Gregory's Girl).

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#804 Post by lacritfan » Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:36 pm

movielocke wrote:Jason Horowitz, everyone is going to want to work with him now. He's got a golden ticket for the next few years, what a display of calm and decisiveness and grace in chaos. Who wouldn't want to work with a producer like that?
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#805 Post by mfunk9786 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:27 pm

Turns out the PWC envelope handler who screwed this all up was creepin' on Emma Stone via Twitter at the time of the mishap.

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#806 Post by domino harvey » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:31 pm

If Emma Stone showed up at my job I would get distracted too. Especially since I work from home!

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#807 Post by hearthesilence » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:32 pm

Friend of mine just compared this to a Ryan Murphy show after reading this:

Apparently, Dunaway and Beatty had a bit of an argument during the show’s rehearsal on Saturday, with both of them fighting for the honor of reading the winner of Best Picture. This little feud between them was so vicious that they wouldn’t even walk onstage together, choosing instead to come out separately during the rehearsal, but Beatty eventually gave in and agreed to let Dunaway read the winner.

According to TMZ‘s narrative—which is probably more dramatic than what really happened—Beatty saw the wrong card in the envelope and hesitated, prompting Dunaway to reach for the card so he wouldn’t “jack the moment and read it himself.” Then she read it, announcing the wrong winner of Best Picture, and Beatty didn’t say anything because of this bad blood between them from the rehearsal.

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#808 Post by mfunk9786 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:33 pm

domino harvey wrote:If Emma Stone showed up at my job I would get distracted too. Especially since I work from home!
I was going to post that I didn't know you worked for PWC but I figured it was a little too obvious
hearthesilence wrote:Friend of mine just compared this to a Ryan Murphy show after reading this:

Apparently, Dunaway and Beatty had a bit of an argument during the show’s rehearsal on Saturday, with both of them fighting for the honor of reading the winner of Best Picture. This little feud between them was so vicious that they wouldn’t even walk onstage together, choosing instead to come out separately during the rehearsal, but Beatty eventually gave in and agreed to let Dunaway read the winner.

According to TMZ‘s narrative—which is probably more dramatic than what really happened—Beatty saw the wrong card in the envelope and hesitated, prompting Dunaway to reach for the card so he wouldn’t “jack the moment and read it himself.” Then she read it, announcing the wrong winner of Best Picture, and Beatty didn’t say anything because of this bad blood between them from the rehearsal.
Primo Dunaway. Some things never change.

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Re: Awards Season 2016

#809 Post by Feego » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:19 pm

Pssst, the guy who did this is really Matt Damon!

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Re: Awards Season 2016

#810 Post by FrauBlucher » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:37 pm

Saw a funny twitter line with pic.....

Faye and Warren leaving the Oscars.
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#813 Post by mfunk9786 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:50 pm

The perfect punctuation to that unbearable bit. It was one of the best Oscar ceremonies in years, but I don't know what fascinates the Academy/Kimmel so much about treating the general public like a circus act during an awards show. Didn't last year feature those man on the street interviews with Chris Rock, too, where he asked if anyone had seen any of the movies? I will be thrilled when that kind of snarky condescension takes a hike from the Oscars for good.

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Re: Awards Season 2016

#814 Post by hearthesilence » Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:52 pm

Man, this has to be the nuttiest Oscar ceremony ever thrown by the Academy.

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Re: Awards Season 2016

#815 Post by domino harvey » Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:57 pm

Movie stars are unquestionably more important than most other people

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#816 Post by mfunk9786 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:15 pm

Which is why punching up makes much more sense.

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#817 Post by Rayon Vert » Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:09 pm


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#818 Post by domino harvey » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:30 pm

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Re: Awards Season 2016

#819 Post by mfunk9786 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:39 pm

That's lovely, but how exciting would it be if one or both were really mad about this

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Re: Awards Season 2016

#820 Post by DarkImbecile » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:56 am

mfunk9786 wrote:
mfunk9786 wrote:
DarkImbecile wrote:It'll be fun to read the oral history of that moment in 10 years.
I give it 'til Tuesday
Here you go
This is a good one.

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Re: Awards Season 2016

#821 Post by domino harvey » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:22 pm

People on Twitter are trying to turn the Variety cover into a huge disgrace for Jenkins. Thankfully he set them straight:

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Typical New Left, speaking for victims that aren't even slighted

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Re: Awards Season 2016

#822 Post by knives » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:26 pm

Does this mean now they have to start tweeting about how rude it is to have Jenkins on the cover?

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Re: Awards Season 2016

#823 Post by domino harvey » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:28 pm

My biggest takeaway from everything I've read in the last couple days is that the producers, directors, and stars of La La Land and Moonlight are better people than I'll ever be. Just consistent class and friendliness from both sides of this mess

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Re: Awards Season 2016

#824 Post by Brian C » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:35 pm

I'll second that. Everyone involved seems pretty awesome.

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Re: Awards Season 2016

#825 Post by hearthesilence » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:45 pm

Yes, but to be fair, this is how people are supposed to be. Maybe it's a hopeful sign that the film business is slowly being taken over by more civil and honorable individuals while those who give it a bad name are on their way out.

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