La merveilleuse vie de Jeanne d'Arc (Marco de Gastyne, 1929)

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La merveilleuse vie de Jeanne d'Arc (Marco de Gastyne, 1929)

#1 Post by HerrSchreck »

A request for a copy of the seacam VHS of this film finally came through, via a very nice digitzed version running just a touch under 2 Gigs. This is the version of the film presented by Cinemateque Francaise following the restoration in the early 80's by Renee Lichtig, and seems to be complete, running what is claimed to be the 2hrs + running time.

First off I was surprised of the quality of the VHS-- I had seen some other screen grabs of the film which must have been severely generational, for they looked terribly duped and soaked thru & thru with analog halos. This VHS transfer reveals a satisfactory amount of detail, albeit via a composite of different materials of a variety of gauges: 35, 17.5, and 9.5mm (for the ancient home video market, where families with 9.5 mm projectors could watch a condensed version of the film entitled "Joan The Maid"). Even the 9.5mm material looks decent-- some of the best looking 9.5 I've seen, far better than Weine's Raskolnikow, Oswalds Cagliostro, Epstein's Lion des Mogols, etc.

A cursory look reveals a vibrant and affecting film-- so far everything that I've seen is excellent. If there's a single negative one can lodge against Dreyer's masterpiece (was for quite a time my #1 favorite film) is that it overshadowed and relegated this film to the sidelines. Naturalistically acted, wonderfully photographed, rendered with an ethereal, haunting quality punctuated by a lilting and moody orchestral score which fits the images like a glove, the film's obscurity is officially and heretofore baffling. Moreso considering the subject matter-- is it possible for there to be too many silent masterpieces from France about Joan of Arc? It's a sin thatCecil B. DeMille's Joan The Woman still occupies it's spot on the melodramatic mantle of silent historical dramas, yet this most sincere, and sprawling, and impressive, and affecting, and moody piece needs to be tweezed out from the must and the dust of the floorboard cracks.

As the intertitles are entirely original French, and I haven't run through the narrative in one consecutive sitting yet (I've only consumed it in intermittent pieces since getting it day before yest.) I don't want to go any deeper than very general assessments of the overall look and feel of the work in sum.

Some interesting tidbits about the film's history, published on the event of the death of Simone Genevois, Jeanne D'Arc in this film, from the UK Independent:
Simone Genevois, actress: born Paris 13 February 1912; married 1931 Jacques Pathe (marriage dissolved), secondly Andre Conti (one son); died Ascona, Switzerland 16 December 1995.In 1927, a film about Joan of Arc went into production in France which, under the direction of Carl Dreyer, was financed by the same company that had made Napoleon. They hoped for a similar epic about France's national heroine. Dreyer spent their money on huge sets which he never showed; he produced an avant-garde film largely photographed in bold close-ups. It was not a commercial success, but its critical reputation, increasing over the years, obliterated another film on Joan of Arc, made at roughly the same time, La Merveilleuse vie de Jeanne d'Arc, directed by Marco de Gastyne.

Dreyer's actress, Falconetti, gave a mesmerizing performance of sanctity and suffering, but could that same woman have led the forces of France against the English? Simone Genevois, in the film by de Gastyne, had just that heroic quality, and her performance was one of the wonders of the silent cinema.

Alas, the film was lost for many years, and when it was restored it was shown only once in England at the National Film Theatre (in a season organised by John Gillett). Those who saw it were astonished by the scale of the production, particularly the battle scenes, where Simone Genevois led 8,000 extras from the French army against the ramparts of Carcassonne (standing in with Aigues-Mortes for Orleans).

"In the beginning," said Genevois, "I was 15 years old and they made me a very light suit of armour, but I ended up with real armour. At the Battle of Orleans I had to wear a 22-kilo suit of chain mail. As soon as I finished a scene, they would lay me down and I would sleep on the ground because I couldn't take the weight."

The trial scenes were filmed almost as starkly as the Dreyer film (which neither Genevois nor her director had yet seen) in the medieval Abbey of Mont St Michel. The execution, the only scene to be shot at the Joinville studio, was equally realistic - perhaps too much so.

"The moment the wood caught fire I yelled 'It burns!' Marco was so sure that I was afraid that he did nothing at all. All of a sudden the cameraman, Gaston Brun, shouted 'She's burning!' and everyone ran towards me, because I was tied up and couldn't budge. I was very frightened."
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By the time she was cast as one of Bonaparte's sisters in Abel Gance's Napoleon - in 1925 - Simone Genevois was a veteran with eight years' acting behind her. To her regret, however, a scene in which she wept at the feet of Salicetti (Philippe Heriat) was cut by Gance from the final film. However, it was Heriat (a Goncourt prize- winning novelist as well as actor) who secured for her the role she will be remembered by.

She did not correspond to the requirements demanded in the national casting compeititon for Joan of Arc: "I did not have a sturdy peasant build, nor dark hair - I was as blonde as a wheatfield - nor did I know how to ride a horse." But Heriat told de Gastyne of this girl who had worked in the business for years yet was the right age. It took nearly two years to make the film, so vast was the scale, and it was rewarded - like Napoleon - with a premiere at the Opera. But by the time the film was released, in 1929, sound was the rage and, like so many great films of the late silent era, it was overwhelmed by all the exciting new talkies.

Simone made a few sound films - including a couple for de Gastyne - but they failed to make an impression and she left the movies after Quand les feuilles tombent in 1935. She had worked 18 years in the film business. She was still only 23.

La Merveilleuse vie de Jeanne d'Arc was reissued in the 1930s on 17.5mm, a gauge which quickly became obsolete. Owners of 9.5mm home movie projectors could see some of the spectacular scenes in a two-reel condensation called St Joan - the Maid. It was not until 1982 when Simone Genevois and her husband Andre Conti personally underwrote the restoration of the 35mm version - achieved by Renee Lichtig, doyenne of film restorers - that audiences could see the film in its entirety.

Ironically, Genevois first met Conti at the premiere of her version of Joan of Arc. He turned out to have been an investor in the Dreyer version.
Some screen caps-- I don't feel it neccessary to worry about spoilers since we all know Joan was put on trial and burned at the stake... enjoy these magnificently ethereal images!

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Joan, at home in the country with the flock, pre-warrior days:
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Listening to woeful tales from wounded & beaten soldiers about the destruction of France at the hands of the English:
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9.5mm shot:
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Joan's first visions:
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A heavenly visitation & calling:
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Misc scenes:
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Joan, captured, places her hand on the bible before the tribunal:
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Forcing her to sign the confession:
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Joan condemned:
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Joan's robe catching fire:
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#2 Post by lady wakasa »

Wow - it'd be great to see this...

Was this a matter of the Rule of Twos? Did Dreyer influence de Gastyne? Something else I'm not going to come up with?
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From the above-quoted article
The trial scenes were filmed almost as starkly as the Dreyer film (which neither Genevois nor her director had yet seen) in the medieval Abbey of Mont St Michel. The execution, the only scene to be shot at the Joinville studio, was equally realistic - perhaps too much so.
The films were made in deference to her recent canonization-- this is what they both were a reflection of. Neither saw the other's work (they were made pretty much simultaneous) while making their respective films.
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#4 Post by Knappen »

I was in Rouen a month ago and hang around the place where she was actually burned with IMDb's dbdumonteil.

There's a very high cross there now. Her ashes were scattered in the river to avoid that her followers would get ahold of it.
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Re: La merveilleuse vie de Jeanne d'Arc (de Gastyne, 1929)

#5 Post by psufootball07 »

Didnt Dreyer make a much better version of this.
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Didnt Dreyer make a much better version of this.
Thanks for giving us all a completely new perspective on the topic, psu.
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psufootball07 wrote:Didnt Dreyer make a much better version of this.
Yeah, don't trouble yourself by reading the initial post or anything.
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psufootball07 wrote:Didnt Dreyer make a much better version of this.
Post of the century!
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psufootball07 wrote:Didnt Dreyer make a much better version of this.
In his defense, he thought this was the Transformers 2 thread.
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#10 Post by Knappen »

Don't overdo it, l_b. Subtlety is all.
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#11 Post by psufootball07 »

I have seen the Trial of Joan by Bresson and it pales in comparison with Dreyer's work. Whatever the fuck this film is there is no way it comes close to capturing any of the creativity or beauty in Dreyers film.
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psufootball07 wrote:I have seen the Trial of Joan by Bresson and it pales in comparison with Dreyer's work. Whatever the fuck this film is there is no way it comes close to capturing any of the creativity or beauty in Dreyers film.
You sir, are a blithering idiot.
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In psu's defense, all films that I haven't seen are uniformly terrible.
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psufootball07 wrote:Whatever the fuck this film is there is no way it comes close to capturing any of the creativity or beauty in Dreyers film.
You been smoking belly lint? I mean really, wtf is the rage all about at a film you've never seen before? The Passion of Joan of Arc is not a football team, and this is not the semifinals... and like I said above, this is coming from a guy who used to put Dreyer's Joan at #1 in my personal Top Ten.
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#15 Post by Knappen »

Well I hope you're honest there Schreck, and that this isn't some sort of crazy coup put together to make people forget all about Dreyer's film so that the mint nitrate copy found in the insane asylum some miles from my home outside Oslo in the early 80s can be placed back in the closet where it had been since the loonies saw it around 1929.
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#16 Post by Scharphedin2 »

Thank you for the wonderful stills and the article, Schreck. I can't wait to read what you think of the film, once you have seen it in its entirety.

Unbelievable, the rare films that materialize from all corners on an almost daily basis. It is hard to understand that this film of all things has not seen a formal release on DVD in France. Especially given the extensive restoration undertaken in the eighties.

(And, not that it even deserves comment, but it is a real stain on the forum that an excellent thread like this, which someone took a couple of hours of their time to create, is derailed by sophomoric claptrap. Pathetic!)
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#17 Post by life_boy »

Knappen wrote:Don't overdo it, l_b. Subtlety is all.
Fine. He thought this was the Antichrist thread.
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#18 Post by Knappen »

Better!
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psufootball07 wrote:I have seen the Trial of Joan by Bresson and it pales in comparison with Dreyer's work. Whatever the fuck this film is there is no way it comes close to capturing any of the creativity or beauty in Dreyers film.
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Thanks for this, Schreck - those last few caps sent shivers down my spine. Even from this scant evidence, you can see Genevois accomplishing something quite harrowing at the end of the film. The fact that she actually thought she was burning (as well as that stuff about the armour) suggests this may even rival Dreyer's film as an actor-endurance-test.
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#21 Post by Tommaso »

I too would like to thank Schreck for posting and researching this; the screen caps look great indeed, as did the few excerpts in the documentary that is on the Bresson "Jeanne" disc. As to the debate whether Dreyer is superior to Bresson or not: it's not worthwhile, especially not in the form it has taken here. I think that both films clearly come from different aesthetic ideals, though they might even be superficially similar (you know, the 'transcendental' in film etc.), but in the end they have a totally different impact. After seeing the Bresson the Dreyer appeared to me much more 'dramatic' than it ever did before. It's more immediately captivating as well and a film of incredible importance (though it was never my personal #1 silent, strangely), but Bresson's radically stripped-down version has a lot to recommend it by its extreme concentration and soberness, too. Not that Dreyer's is that of a showman, of course, but I sometimes think that the much-discussed 'sobriety' and 'starkness' of Dreyer often overshadows that Dreyer of course uses a lot of virtuosic cinematic devices to achieve what he does. I mean, "Jeanne" simply isn't "Gertrud" yet, perhaps thankfully.

I suppose the de Gastyne version would be an ideal complement to both films, and would reveal other aspects of that mysterious person that Jeanne is for me. In this respect, please don't forget Rivette when discussing films about her, whose Jeanne is probably the most unheroic, the most human of all. I find it fascinating that this character allows for so many different interpretations and approaches; perhaps that's why I never tire of seeing her story on film.
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#22 Post by Knappen »

And we all need to see Richard Widmark as Charles the seventh in Preminger's version!

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#23 Post by HypnoHelioStaticStasis »

Let me echo the sentiments here: Well done Schreck! I have to say, your commitment to attaining such rare films is admirable, and I wish I had your connections to the world of underground tape trading.

And as important and beautiful as Dreyer's film is, he doesn't have a monopoly on this story, especially considering how much of it is open to literary and artistic interpretation.
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#24 Post by life_boy »

How/where did you first hear about this film, Schreck?
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#25 Post by HerrSchreck »

If not having read about it (and probably forgotten all about it) beforehand, the film as a Fact really materialized in my head after going through the wondrous CC dvd of the Dreyer version-- Casper T's fabbo commentary above all. It's elusive status and occupying the ranks of those grand French silent masterpieces that despite their often larger scale never lose that hugely pleasing Impressionist/avant fidelity, and sense of depth & otherworldliness-- Napoleon (obviously) & the other Gance's, L'Herbier, The Chess Player, the two Jeanne's, Capitaine Fracasse - French Calvacanti, all the Feyder, the Epstein, the Kirsanoff, the Duvivier, the earliest Gremillon.

Its also fascinating in that I know next to nada about de Gastyne-- a total unknown quantity to me. Ditto Genevois, who it seems worked with him in other films.

Just continues to prove Eric Dolphy's humble maxim-- the more you learn, the more there is to learn.
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