Camera Obscura: The Walerian Borowczyk Collection

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Morbii
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Re: Camera Obscura: The Walerian Borowczyk Collection

#826 Post by Morbii »

Thanks, Michael.

On the latter, I figured as much, but wanted to make sure. I probably prefer the U.K. version due to the shorts, which I prioritize over interviews and docs and such (and good to know I can find the content on other discs anyway).
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Re: Camera Obscura: The Walerian Borowczyk Collection

#827 Post by MichaelB »

All the non-Polish shorts that Arrow released are available in the US via Olive Films. This includes the two supporting shorts included on the UK releases of The Beast and Immoral Tales.

I haven't seen the disc so can't comment on the presentation or encodes, but I can certainly confirm that they're working from the same Arrow restorations.
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Re: Camera Obscura: The Walerian Borowczyk Collection

#828 Post by Morbii »

Thanks, Michael.
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#830 Post by MichaelB »

Thanks for that - duly ordered! I recognised the Quays' visual input well before their credit confirmed it.
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Re: Camera Obscura: The Walerian Borowczyk Collection

#831 Post by Grand Wazoo »

Is the non-short story material from the Camera Obscura box book available online anywhere?
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Re: Camera Obscura: The Walerian Borowczyk Collection

#832 Post by Pepsi »

Role on La marge as well!
La Marge is available on Netflix (!). A decent master from Studio Canal. So maybe we see also in the future a Blu-Ray release.
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#833 Post by knives »

Really? Under what name? I couldn’t find it.
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Re: Camera Obscura: The Walerian Borowczyk Collection

#834 Post by therewillbeblus »

Me neither, under its English title either. I see it was added to Netflix in Portugal a few weeks ago, but I’m guessing it’s not on the U.S. Netflix
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#835 Post by Pepsi »

Netflix (Finland) La marge. It has Finnish, Swedish and English subtitles. It's a HD master and looks fine.
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#836 Post by Grand Wazoo »

I just received mine today and it is indeed a beautiful book with plenty of illustrations and artwork throughout. Highly recommended!
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Re: Camera Obscura: The Walerian Borowczyk Collection

#837 Post by GaryC »

I'm not at Il Cinema Ritrovato in Bologna right now, but several people I know are. Yesterday, as part of a shorts programme, they showed Borowczyk's Une collection particulière (A Private Collection) in a new 4K restoration from the 35mm negative and internegative...in the Oberhausen Cut version, i.e. with the bestiality footage which was blacked out on Arrow's Blu-ray not blacked out. Needless to say this restoration won't see the light of day in the UK, though maybe the slightly shorter and "softer" version might, assuming that's been restored as well.
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Re: Camera Obscura: The Walerian Borowczyk Collection

#838 Post by spectre »

That's surprising to hear. Any particular reason it's resurfacing now?
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Re: Camera Obscura: The Walerian Borowczyk Collection

#839 Post by MichaelB »

An interesting thing about the Oberhausen cut is that that's the original camera negative, with the commercially-released cut a dupe negative—we found this out when restoring the films in 2K back in 2014.

The more legal cut would actually go perfectly well with La Marge, given André Pieyre de Mandiargues' involvement with both, plus fairly close temporal proximity (1973 and 1976).

There is, obviously, no question of the Oberhausen cut getting released intact in the UK without a frankly pretty unlikely change in the law; since 2008, genuine bestiality counts as "extreme pornography", and it's illegal even to possess such material, never mind distribute it. In fact, if I remember rightly, possession of bestiality imagery was one of the many, many charges over which the late Ian Watkins was convicted, although nowhere near the most serious.
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