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The Elegant Dandy Fop
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#13426 Post by The Elegant Dandy Fop »

Gregory wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2026 3:36 pm Don Iwerks, 96. I was more familiar with his father, Ub, but it was interesting to learn of Don's technological innovations
I’ve met quite a few people who worked for Iwerks Entertainment and have looked up multiple articles about them. It was a direct competitor to Showscan, Douglas Trumbull’s company doing 70mm/60fps projections that he attempted to patent as a concept.

I’ve had the concept of “expanded cinema” on my mind a lot the last few years and it’s interesting to see the two biggest applications for this are gallery spaces (think of a Bill Viola installation for an early version of this) and theme parks. Iwerks Entertainment built and designed multiple film projection systems including the Soarin’ ride at Disney California Adventures, done originally with two 70mm projectors placed together and ran at an extra high frame rate to create a wide and immersive projection. Unfortunately, pictures are hard to source, but here’s a good blog post with information about them. Not sure who owns the drawings and films they help produced. Would be a great subject for a book one day.
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#13427 Post by beamish14 »

The Elegant Dandy Fop wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2026 3:55 pm
Gregory wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2026 3:36 pm Don Iwerks, 96. I was more familiar with his father, Ub, but it was interesting to learn of Don's technological innovations
I’ve met quite a few people who worked for Iwerks Entertainment and have looked up multiple articles about them. It was a direct competitor to Showscan, Douglas Trumbull’s company doing 70mm/60fps projections that he attempted to patent as a concept.

I’ve had the concept of “expanded cinema” on my mind a lot the last few years and it’s interesting to see the two biggest applications for this are gallery spaces (think of a Bill Viola installation for an early version of this) and theme parks. Iwerks Entertainment built and designed multiple film projection systems including the Soarin’ ride at Disney California Adventures, done originally with two 70mm projectors placed together and ran at an extra high frame rate to create a wide and immersive projection. Unfortunately, pictures are hard to source, but here’s a good blog post with information about them. Not sure who owns the drawings and films they help produced. Would be a great subject for a book one day.

It’s a shame that those Iwerks Entertainment and Trumbull films are basically unusable now and sitting in storage (the Academy has ShowScan materials). If VistaVision projectors can come back to life, why not this stuff?
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#13428 Post by The Elegant Dandy Fop »

Lot of reasons why, unfortunately! Because of the high frame rate and scale of the 70mm frames, it required special cabinets where the film would essentially zip through barely touching the rollers. As a result, you were limited to specific lengths due to the scale of these cabinets. A lot of them used heavily modified projectors as well that used servo motors and replaced parts in order to both synchronize and run in unusual configurations. I experienced immersive projections like this the way I absolutely experienced IMAX documentaries back in the 90s, but had no appreciation for design, concept, or film as a medium as a kid. I remember the experience, but I was not looking at frame rates or image scales the way I do now.

One of the Iwerks technicians said the only place still operating one of their old systems was a theme park in Texas and that they still order 70mm prints from Fotokem when they need to change prints.
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#13429 Post by beamish14 »

The Elegant Dandy Fop wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2026 4:20 pm Lot of reasons why, unfortunately! Because of the high frame rate and scale of the 70mm frames, it required special cabinets where the film would essentially zip through barely touching the rollers. As a result, you were limited to specific lengths due to the scale of these cabinets. A lot of them used heavily modified projectors as well that used servo motors and replaced parts in order to both synchronize and run in unusual configurations. I experienced immersive projections like this the way I absolutely experienced IMAX documentaries back in the 90s, but had no appreciation for design, concept, or film as a medium as a kid. I remember the experience, but I was not looking at frame rates or image scales the way I do now.

One of the Iwerks technicians said the only place still operating one of their old systems was a theme park in Texas and that they still order 70mm prints from Fotokem when they need to change prints.

I wish I’d been able to experience more of those IMAX documentaries that were produced prior to the formatting being co-opted by Hollywood. I’ll never forget catching Beavers around 1995, and I almost had a panic attack because of how overwhelming the sound was
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#13430 Post by hearthesilence »

Actor Randolph Mantooth. I don't think I've ever seen him in anything - he was mainly a TV actor, and a highly prolific one at that - but what a name!
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#13431 Post by domino harvey »

hearthesilence wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2026 7:23 pm Actor Randolph Mantooth. I don't think I've ever seen him in anything - he was mainly a TV actor, and a highly prolific one at that - but what a name!
I always remember him from Talk Soup in the Skunk Boy years when they’d have him come on to do random things where he’d always say his own name several times. Couldn’t find any examples on YouTube though
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#13432 Post by hearthesilence »

Lindsey Graham.
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#13433 Post by beamish14 »

hearthesilence wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2026 6:38 am Lindsey Graham.
Unfortunately, his constituents will probably elect someone as vile to replace this piece of shit
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#13434 Post by Finch »

I don't know. They need to have a special primary election because Graham had already secured the nomination for November so whoever wins still needs to beat Annie Andrews who has got to have better chances now.
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#13435 Post by Roger Ryan »

domino harvey wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2026 8:33 pm
hearthesilence wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2026 7:23 pm Actor Randolph Mantooth. I don't think I've ever seen him in anything - he was mainly a TV actor, and a highly prolific one at that - but what a name!
I always remember him from Talk Soup in the Skunk Boy years when they’d have him come on to do random things where he’d always say his own name several times. Couldn’t find any examples on YouTube though
Those who are my age will have likely seen him on one or more episodes of Emergency! which ran for seven seasons throughout the 70s. Both of the lead paramedic characters were largely colorless as they went through the machinations of attempting to save lives. The truly extraordinary twist is that Mantooth’s scene partner throughout the run of the show, Kevin Tighe, became a memorable character actor with excellent performances in Road House, Freaks and Geeks, and even Paul Thomas Anderson’s latest.
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#13436 Post by dx23 »

hearthesilence wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2026 6:38 am Lindsey Graham.
Waiting for Mitch McConnell's statement about Lindsey's death
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#13437 Post by hearthesilence »

I remember seeing this in real-time. Pretty much says it all.
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#13438 Post by denti alligator »

In many ways he was one of the absolute lowest of the low, because he knew what he was doing. I'm not sure I buy the argument of that piece that he somehow convinced himself of the contrary. He started as a man of incredible integrity and ended as a more ruthless and relentless fascist who was worse than most of those he had fought against. A breathtaking transformation. If McCain had lived longer, I suspect it would have been a lot harder for him to go this route.
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