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#1501 Post by Highway 61 »

kaujot wrote:I was just wondering the other week if he had any possible plans for one more film.
I believe he wrote--truly wrote, as in not mere script doctoring--the Jennifer Lopez vehicle Maid in Manhattan under a pseudonym. Clearly, that didn't pan out too well.

Regardless, the man's a legend, and his death is a shame. And now that I think about it, Home Alone was probably the first movie I ever truly loved. It's weird to watch now and to see just how bad Culkin's performance really is, but back then I was the perfect age for it. And the John Williams score remains among his very best.

And I had totally forgotten that he wrote the first Vacation movie! What a classic.
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#1502 Post by kaujot »

I never even knew he wrote that! Love that movie.

Edit: Vacation, that is. Not Maid in Manhattan.
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#1503 Post by Donald Brown »

It's as if FDR and Reagan died at the same time, and everyone's yammering on about how awesome Reagan was.
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#1504 Post by Saturnome »

National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation. My favorite movie as a kid. Yeah.
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#1505 Post by kaujot »

You're really taking this personally.
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#1506 Post by bamwc2 »

Donald Brown wrote:You people did notice that Budd Schulberg has also just died, right?
Even with his advanced age, his death is truly sad. He wrote one of my all time favorites, A Face in the Crowd, which should be required viewing in all high school civics classes.
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#1507 Post by Fiery Angel »

Donald Brown wrote:It's as if Farrah and MJ died at the same time, and everyone's yammering on about how awesome Farrah was.
Fixed
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#1508 Post by jbeall »

At least ten of my facebook friends have posted quotes from Hughes' films in their status updates.

"I just wanna know how one becomes a janitor because Andrew here is very interested in pursuing a career in the custodial arts."
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#1509 Post by domino harvey »

Donald Brown wrote:It's as if FDR and Reagan died at the same time, and everyone's yammering on about how awesome Reagan was.
Jesus Christ dude, if you want to appreciate him in this thread, for the love of God, appreciate him in this thread. But don't piss all over the other people grieving for someone else. It's like going to a busy funeral viewing and getting pissed that another room is getting more visitors
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#1510 Post by mfunk9786 »

Donald Brown, with all due respect, why is it that the person you prefer is the one who everyone needs to stop and mourn? People are allowed to discuss whomever they wish, and the fact of the matter is that Hughes just happened to have painted upon our collective memories with a broader brush. Not everything is a competition between your favorite obscure thing and other people's favorite popular thing. These are two men who just passed away, not Mr. Show and The State.
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#1511 Post by domino harvey »

For what it's worth, the local arthouse theatre had an "RIP BUDD SCHULBERG" marquee today, but not one for John Hughes. That's gotta be way more satisfying than people on the internet saying something
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#1512 Post by GringoTex »

mfunk9786 wrote:Not everything is a competition between your favorite obscure thing and other people's favorite popular thing.
Budd Schulberg is obscure? What's the average age in here?
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#1513 Post by mfunk9786 »

Compared to Hughes. I was speaking in generalities, as that's been the theme of a lot of his recent thread ambushes [see: TV on DVD, The Beatles, etc].
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#1514 Post by MichaelB »

It's the lack of love for Harry Alan Towers that really baffles me - I mean, the man did probably produce more Jesus Franco movies than anyone else, which has got to be worth some kind of eulogy.
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#1515 Post by Polybius »

In re the Hughes-Schulberg controversy: even after years of trying, I can't completely decide how I really feel about either man, so I'm just going to leave it at that.
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#1516 Post by flyonthewall2983 »

mfunk9786 wrote:At risk of heaping any more hyperbole on those two films, I don't know if there is a next level he could have taken it to.
The more I think about it, the more I agree looking back now. Roger Ebert listed Planes, Trains & Automobiles as one of the great movies earlier in the decade. His original review, as he said was favorable and he moved on. But reading the article, it's clear that the movie had grown on him.
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#1517 Post by HarryLong »

MichaelB wrote:It's the lack of love for Harry Alan Towers that really baffles me - I mean, the man did probably produce more Jesus Franco movies than anyone else, which has got to be worth some kind of eulogy.
I suspect it was a build-up of toxins from those endeavors that ultimately did him in...
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#1518 Post by Finch »

swo17 wrote:Was this post made with knowledge of this? If not, that's an eerie coincidence.
swo, I didn't hear of Hughes' death until well after I wrote that post. It's still sinking in that he's gone. Hard to say what's more depressing: that we will never get another Hughes picture or that most comedy directors today aren't even half as good as he was at his peak - heartwarming without being sentimental, earning the emotional payoff without cheap emotional cues; easily one of the least judgmental and most humane directors. Judd Apatow can eat his heart out (and get a fucking editor).
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#1519 Post by swo17 »

When you said he was "sorely missed," the first thing I thought was "wait, is John Hughes dead?" And then just a few hours later the news hits. That's pretty crazy. I wasn't necessarily a huge fan of most of his films but I have to give mad props to Ferris Bueller. I watched a recorded-from-TV VHS of that film so much growing up that it still feels weird to hear the characters swear. (That red convertible will always be a piece of tin to me.)
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#1520 Post by Finch »

swo17 wrote:When you said he was "sorely missed," the first thing I thought was "wait, is John Hughes dead?"
When I wrote it I meant he was missed because he hadn't directed anything since 1991. But I know what you mean: when I heard the news later and remembered my post, I thought just what a bizarre coincidence it was. Come to think of it, the timing of the announcement of the reissue of Planes.... just a day before he died feels bizarre in its own way..
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#1521 Post by skuhn8 »

Born in 1970 I have to confess that Hughes touched my life a little more than the late Budd Schulberg (but a hearty hats-off to his contribution). Though I was able to vehemently disdain the music of the eighties, try as I might I couldn't shake Hughes from my own personal cinema landscape during those formative years. Saccharine but with just a little bit of edge and a sense of wit that seemed to transcend the laughable outfits of the time, it isn't hard to guess the directorial credit 10 minutes into a Hughes film. Molly Ringwald was never my idea of a hot date, but she seemed to catch the frustration of even a black concert shirt clad dirthead in those full lips bent in disdain. Shame he didn't go further, but then perhaps he recognized his place in time, stuck to it and left a fairly tight legacy.
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#1522 Post by colinr0380 »

MichaelB wrote:It's the lack of love for Harry Alan Towers that really baffles me - I mean, the man did probably produce more Jesus Franco movies than anyone else, which has got to be worth some kind of eulogy.
There are a couple of tributes on related blogs

And didn't he make the whole Christopher Lee Fu Manchu cycle of films? Even though the last two Franco directed ones were almost unwatchable! However it has been over a decade since I last watched any of them, so it might be worth going through my VHS copies to refresh my memory.

I suppose he did give Franco's films a slicker quality though (especially appreciated when compared to some of his recent One Shot Productions and shot on video works), with Christopher Lee and arty sex of De Sade adaptations. For my money though I much prefer the post-Towers Franco of Vampyros Lesbos, Female Vampire and Virgin Among The Living Dead. Though I still have yet to see The Bloody Judge, which I keep hearing is one of the highlights of their collaboration.

He does seem an interesting figure though, building films up through multi-country funding. And writing many films from Lucio Fulci's White Fang to The Mangler! Interesting to note that he was part of the Harry Palmer revival in the mid 90s with two TV movies. I wonder how Michael Caine was coaxed back to the part after such a long time since the previous films?

On another note where does this leave the Towers produced and written film of Moll Flanders that was apparently to be directed by Ken Russell?

I quite liked some of the Hughes films. I find The Breakfast Club always pulls me in every time I run across it on television. I like the enclosed, claustrophobic nature of the detention forcing all the different kids to interact and eventually come to enjoy each other's company as they realise their antagonisms are manufactured by their society more than coming from any personal attitudes they may hold.

I've only seen Ferris Bueller's Day Off a couple of times but remember being impressed at the difficult task of making an incredibly smug lead character interesting and amusing rather than just irritating. Though it has been years since I last saw it so maybe I'll feel different seeing it now.

My real guilty pleasure though would have to be Weird Science. I guess as a twelve year old computer nerd the idea that it might be possible to conjure up feisty Kelly LeBrock using my ZX Spectrum was, while ludicrous, just too compelling a fantasy to resist!
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#1523 Post by MichaelB »

colinr0380 wrote:
MichaelB wrote:It's the lack of love for Harry Alan Towers that really baffles me - I mean, the man did probably produce more Jesus Franco movies than anyone else, which has got to be worth some kind of eulogy.
There are a couple of tributes on related blogs
I was talking specifically about this thread.
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#1524 Post by colinr0380 »

Some gossipy Harry Alan Towers stories from the Shadowplay blog

The Onion AV Club on the week's other passings, including Blake Snyder (screenwriter of Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot and Blank Cheque) at 51 and make up artist Howard Smit (The Wizard of Oz, Gunga Din, The Birds, Marnie) at 98.

From the Variety report on Smit:
Along with John Inzerella, Smit was responsible for requiring studios to give screen credit for make-up artists and hair stylists, and campaigned to convince the Motion Picture Academy of Arts and Sciences to establish the make-up award. The Make-up and Hairstylists Guild created the Smitty award in his honor.

He was also a Governor in the Television Academy of Arts and Sciences and also served as a director for the Motion Picture Industry Health and Pension Fund.

In 1986, Smit was shot at after a board meeting; the makeup artist who fired at him later shot two police officers. After recovering from the shooting, he served the guild for another eight years.
Also Leela Naidu, from The Householder (in which she starred) and The Guru, two films from the early Indian set Merchant Ivory productions.
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