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HistoryProf
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#1801 Post by HistoryProf »

Lemmy Caution wrote:While I agree with your post and smack-down, many other countries do dub films, and there's an art/skill to it. There are a host of foreign films where I would like to have had an English dub option as well as Eng. subtitles, assuming the dub was well done. I don't think it's ludicrous though, as dubbing does allow you to pay greater attention to a film's visual dynamics compared to reading the bottom of the frame, which is what I believe the pompous poster was trying to convey. I also understand that dubbing has never been much accepted in the US, except for perhaps animation.
What's ludicrous is the assertion that "real film connoisseurs" need them to appreciate the films - which implies that preferring subs makes you less of a film lover. I do understand the desire to be able to "watch" more of the film, but ultimately I almost always find dubbing to be too distracting, with few exceptions from Italy and France in the period you mentioned. But those are exceptions and I'm far too anal to be able to sit through dialog that isn't perfectly synced.

I do like the idea of a coppery color used for subs though...I think that would be very unobtrusive yet readable. who do we write to on that? :)
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#1802 Post by Morbii »

HistoryProf wrote:What's ludicrous is the assertion that "real film connoisseurs" need them to appreciate the films - which implies that preferring subs makes you less of a film lover. I do understand the desire to be able to "watch" more of the film, but ultimately I almost always find dubbing to be too distracting, with few exceptions from Italy and France in the period you mentioned. But those are exceptions and I'm far too anal to be able to sit through dialog that isn't perfectly synced.
I agree that that assertion is ludicrous. However, in general, I think I will get more out of a film that is dubbed than one that is subtitled as I can visually experience it more (I think I get too distracted reading the subs on occasion). This probably even applies when the dubbing is bad (well, bad but still somewhat properly conveying the general sense of the intonations of the actors), BUT, I think in the case where dubbing is bad you have to watch it by yourself if you want to take it seriously (to avoid comments from others about how bad the dubbing is). That said, I have hundreds of subtitle only films and won't not watch a film based on it. Just my position on whether or not I'd rather have dubbing.
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#1803 Post by tenia »

HistoryProf wrote:No, he's not. That's why they invented text with black outlines.
Yeah, well, that's not what I was talking about.
I've seen white subs without black outlines and that's just awful for a black and white movie.
Not owning the CC DVD he's talking about, I'm assuming that's what he's talking about, and I agree with him : white subs on bleached white-ish background are a plague.

But yes, who does them without outlines nowadays ?
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#1804 Post by Archers of Loaf »

Here's a review of Act of God on NetFlix. The film is a documentary about people who've been struck by lightning. I haven't seen it, but something tells me that it isn't anywhere near as fascinating as this comment:
The movie is horrible. Act of God has really nothing to do with God. It comes from the assumption that the evolution theory is true. The film maker is looking for purpose however,there is no purpose if evolution is true it is all meaningless and worthless just like a movie from that assumption looking for purpose and meaning. A self refuting worldviews attempting to make a meaningful movie, dont waste your time.
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#1805 Post by Brian C »

Archers of Loaf wrote:Here's a review of Act of God on NetFlix. The film is a documentary about people who've been struck by lightning. I haven't seen it, but something tells me that it isn't anywhere near as fascinating as this comment:
The movie is horrible. Act of God has really nothing to do with God. It comes from the assumption that the evolution theory is true. The film maker is looking for purpose however,there is no purpose if evolution is true it is all meaningless and worthless just like a movie from that assumption looking for purpose and meaning. A self refuting worldviews attempting to make a meaningful movie, dont waste your time.
Hmm ... I did see it, but I don't really remember evolutionary theory being a big player in the film. I suspect the logic in this case goes something like this:

1) The film does not entertain the notion that lightning is literally a result of God throwing things.
2) Therefore, the filmmakers must not believe in God.
3) Therefore, the filmmakers must assume that evolutionary theory is true.

Alternatively, maybe there was a segment that dealt indirectly with evolution in some way and I've forgotten. I didn't think the film was terribly interesting, and I can't say I remember every detail.
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#1806 Post by Mr Sausage »

I, too, was expecting a documentary on how Zeus punishes people for their sins.
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#1807 Post by zedz »

The Act of God I know, and which this sounds like, is a (great) early Peter Greenaway documentary. Has this slipped out on DVD somehow? It's a deadpan half-hour that's much closer to Errol Morris than most of Greenaway's other work.
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#1808 Post by tavernier »

zedz wrote:The Act of God I know, and which this sounds like, is a (great) early Peter Greenaway documentary. Has this slipped out on DVD somehow? It's a deadpan half-hour that's much closer to Errol Morris than most of Greenaway's other work.
The Greenaway short is an extra on the DVD of this new feature documentary.
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#1809 Post by zedz »

tavernier wrote:
zedz wrote:The Act of God I know, and which this sounds like, is a (great) early Peter Greenaway documentary. Has this slipped out on DVD somehow? It's a deadpan half-hour that's much closer to Errol Morris than most of Greenaway's other work.
The Greenaway short is an extra on the DVD of this new feature documentary.
I've looked the film up, and it sounds like a more earnest, less interesting remake of Greenaway's film (a remake of a documentary?). Greenaway's version was more of a celebration of randomness than a quest for meaning.
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#1810 Post by Ovader »

Tony is a "professional" screenwriter and co-owner of a production company in my province and has a blog and he reviews movies for CBC Radio...
David: Here's a question – what in your opinion was the Best Oscar year? In other words – the year with the highest number of quality pictures nominated for Best Picture.

Tony: Excellent question. For me the year has to have boasted five films that were all strong and have withstood the test of time. One weak sister in the group and it is no good. Case in point, the 1983 ceremonies nominated, Ghandi (Winner), ET, The Verdict and Tootsie. All incredibly strong. But the 5th that year was Missing which is pretty much a forgotten film. For my money I have to go with the 1995 ceremonies which had: Forrest Gump, Quiz Show, Shawshank Redemption, Pulp fiction and Four Weddings and a Funeral. Those are five classics which still stand up 15 years later.
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#1811 Post by Brian C »

Tony: Excellent question. For me the year has to have boasted five films that were all strong and have withstood the test of time. One weak sister in the group and it is no good. Case in point, the 1983 ceremonies nominated, Ghandi (Winner), ET, The Verdict and Tootsie. All incredibly strong. But the 5th that year was Missing which is pretty much a forgotten film. For my money I have to go with the 1995 ceremonies which had: Forrest Gump, Quiz Show, Shawshank Redemption, Pulp fiction and Four Weddings and a Funeral. Those are five classics which still stand up 15 years later.
I don't think that's "rediculous" so much as a straightforward expression of a mainstream critical view.

I'd actually like to watch Quiz Show again. Haven't seen it since it was new, when I was sixteen years old. I liked it then, and would be interested to see if it does hold up at all.
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#1812 Post by Ovader »

I see your point but on another blog (prior to the Oscars) he mentioned that Christoph Waltz should win Best Supporting Actor because:
Here`s why I think it has to be Christoph Waltz. In Inglorious Basterds he acted in four languages (German, French, English, Italian).
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#1813 Post by Brian C »

Ovader wrote:I see your point but on another blog (prior to the Oscars) he mentioned that Christoph Waltz should win Best Supporting Actor because:
Here`s why I think it has to be Christoph Waltz. In Inglorious Basterds he acted in four languages (German, French, English, Italian).
That's definitely more rediculous, but at the same time, that aspect alone actually did make his performance more impressive than any of the other nominees. Weak category.
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#1814 Post by domino harvey »

I thought he won because he did the most acting. Sort of like how Lithgow won Emmys for 3rd Rock From the Sun
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#1815 Post by Brian C »

domino harvey wrote:I thought he won because he did the most acting. Sort of like how Lithgow won Emmys for 3rd Rock From the Sun
And yet Christopher Plummer's never won an Oscar. Weird.
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#1816 Post by colinr0380 »

Brian C wrote:I'd actually like to watch Quiz Show again. Haven't seen it since it was new, when I was sixteen years old. I liked it then, and would be interested to see if it does hold up at all.
Don't forget to watch the original episode of the Twenty One game show as well!
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#1817 Post by Gregory »

Brian C wrote:
Tony: Excellent question. For me the year has to have boasted five films that were all strong and have withstood the test of time. One weak sister in the group and it is no good. Case in point, the 1983 ceremonies nominated, Ghandi (Winner), ET, The Verdict and Tootsie. All incredibly strong. But the 5th that year was Missing which is pretty much a forgotten film. ...
I don't think that's "rediculous" so much as a straightforward expression of a mainstream critical view.
It's rediculous to say Missing is a "forgotten film," even by the standards of Best Foreign Film Oscar winners. Forgotten films are not Palme d'Or winners that get two separate releases on DVD in R1 alone. It's arrogant to assume "No one knows about this" rather than saying "I don't know about this."
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#1818 Post by domino harvey »

In a perfect world Tootsie would been forgotten to time...
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#1819 Post by panicprevention »

from someone on Amazon :lol:

A Man for All Seasons: "Excellent acting. Draws you in. Makes you think. But I want to share a caution that may seem minor to many people, but it bothers me personally and I know it bothers others: God's name is used in vain in the form of "GD" in this movie. I share that so that you will not be surprised like I was."

Even as a Catholic, I had to say 'shut the hell up'.

from the same "reviewer"

Rope: "After watching the first half hour of this movie, I couldn't take it any more.

Disgusted: I'm not going to get into the details of the philosophy, its overall context, and any "clarifications" that Jimmy gives later on. But the way the movie almost preaches a concept of how some murder is acceptable during the first part of it was enough to disgust me, and at the very least makes it difficult to warm up to and identify with anything in it. The murderers discuss it ad nauseum, but I was holding out that ol' Jimmy would come in as someone we could latch on to. But alas, no. Jimmy comes in discussing a similar philosophy (at least initially), and this viewer is left hanging. Along with David's dad, I had quite enough. (Your mileage may vary. Are you easily offended/bothered by "mind of the killer" and similar type programming? If so, then you will probably be disappointed with this movie.)

Disappointed: Bouncy camerawork. Continuity error (where's the cut on his hand when his palms are read?). No substantial character to easily identify with early on."
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#1820 Post by Matt »

I took a screen cap of this review of The Family Circus Library, vol. 1, because there is no way it is staying up:

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Kinda reads like something on Encyclopedia Dramatica, which I guess is the new model for public discourse these days.
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#1821 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian »

I didn't know the mom even had a name.
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#1822 Post by Perkins Cobb »

That's brilliant ... it's actually in the same ballpark as sanity until the very last line.
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#1823 Post by Lemmy Caution »

Yes, but that's the genius.
How the end of the post ties in with the German subject line to make a complete circle, just like the Family Circus cartoons themselves.

Actually it's just a demented rant that is fun when you dislike the target, but then shows it's ugly side.

Or it's all a put on.

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#1824 Post by HistoryProf »

panicprevention wrote:
Rope: "After watching the first half hour of this movie, I couldn't take it any more.

Disgusted: I'm not going to get into the details of the philosophy, its overall context, and any "clarifications" that Jimmy gives later on. But the way the movie almost preaches a concept of how some murder is acceptable during the first part of it was enough to disgust me, and at the very least makes it difficult to warm up to and identify with anything in it. The murderers discuss it ad nauseum, but I was holding out that ol' Jimmy would come in as someone we could latch on to. But alas, no. Jimmy comes in discussing a similar philosophy (at least initially), and this viewer is left hanging. Along with David's dad, I had quite enough. (Your mileage may vary. Are you easily offended/bothered by "mind of the killer" and similar type programming? If so, then you will probably be disappointed with this movie.)

Disappointed: Bouncy camerawork. Continuity error (where's the cut on his hand when his palms are read?). No substantial character to easily identify with early on."

I kept reading expecting him to go off on how Hitchcock was glorifying homosexuality and rant about gay marriage.
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#1825 Post by Svevan »

Such an elementary mistake, really, and so stupid it doesn't make me angry or sad or anything. I just want someone to tell him to watch the rest of the film so that he feels dumb.
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