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domino harvey
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Re: Kino

#2476 Post by domino harvey »

Couldn't be any worse than the commentary on those PD Noir Blu-rays!
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Black Hat
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Re: Kino

#2477 Post by Black Hat »

I wish there was some news somewhere about Nostalghia, someone has to be releasing it.
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Gregory
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#2478 Post by Gregory »

There has been news: KinoLorber has been touring a new resto of it the last few months, for the film's 30th anniversary. Just have to be patient for the disc announcement.
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Re: Kino

#2479 Post by Black Hat »

That I know, hence why I'm so eager. Made it out twice and was really blown away by the newfound quality of the print. I can't pontificate with any real confidence as to why but the film has a profound effect on me every time I see it.
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Re: Kino

#2480 Post by L.A. »

The Awful Dr. Orlof (1962) @ Mondo Digital
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#2481 Post by Calvin »

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Cover art for The Stranger
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#2482 Post by "membrillo" »

That's wack.
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Roger Ryan
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#2483 Post by Roger Ryan »

Taken from the French movie poster for the film. It seems the French were fond of coloring Welles' face green since it appears that way on the original French poster for THE THIRD MAN as well (and replicated on the Studio Canal Blu-ray release).
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#2484 Post by chatterjees »

Kino is well know for coloring faces before! Remember Edward G. Robinson's HULK face from the Scarlet Street cover art? As they have already made Robinson's face look like Hulk, it was time for Welles to get the new HULK face :D
I just wish that the print will be thousand times better than that of my horrible current BD.
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Gregory
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#2485 Post by Gregory »

But Kino didn't color the faces; they used vintage poster art, which is what a lot of people on this forum would like to see them do, instead of concocting some mess like they've done for Foolish Wives, Die Nibelungen, etc.
Using color in faces is an poster art style that goes back long before the Hulk.
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#2486 Post by warren oates »

Plus, green is the color of knowledge/learning.
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#2487 Post by NABOB OF NOWHERE »

warren oates wrote:Plus, green is the color of knowledge/learning.
not forgetting lack of experience, envy, mildew and putrification.
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Re: Kino

#2488 Post by warren oates »

Well if you want to get all traditional, literary and Tarkovsky about it. I more of a Storaro color wheel fascist myself.
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#2489 Post by matrixschmatrix »

Welles' face doesn't have his name sitting atop his forehead in the original poster, and it has generally more breathing room in all directions, which makes the green look more stylized and less sickly and weird. Plus, if they wanted to grab Welles' face out of a vintage French poster, they could have used this much more intimidating one

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Re: Kino

#2490 Post by Gregory »

Don't get Welles angry. You wouldn't like him when he's angry.
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Drucker
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#2492 Post by Drucker »

I'm never expecting great cover art from Kino, and if Welles' image on the cover sells more copies of a film even as a big Welles fan I wouldn't think of as a "great" film, then more power to them. Coming from the Library of Congress, I'm hoping this looks fantastic and absolutely can't wait for this release.
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Re: Kino

#2494 Post by FrauBlucher »

Details for Nosferatu 2 disc set...

Special Features:
Two versions of the film
Original German Intertitles (with optional English subtitles)
English Intertitles
Hans Erdmann's original 1922 score in 5.1 Surround or 2.0 Stereo
The Language of Shadows - a 52 minute documentary chronicling the early career of F.W. Murnau
A collection of clips and highlights from other F.W. Murnau films
Photo Gallery
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#2495 Post by vsski »

FrauBlucher wrote:Details for Nosferatu 2 disc set...

Special Features:
Two versions of the film
Original German Intertitles (with optional English subtitles)
English Intertitles
Hans Erdmann's original 1922 score in 5.1 Surround or 2.0 Stereo
The Language of Shadows - a 52 minute documentary chronicling the early career of F.W. Murnau
A collection of clips and highlights from other F.W. Murnau films
Photo Gallery
This is a repeat of their 2 disc DVD version. Who other than region A locked folks will buy this knowing that MoC is putting out their own version, which if it has the same extras as the DVD is vastly superior, not to speak of a probably better encode.
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Re: Kino

#2496 Post by captveg »

Well, I can only speak for myself, but I figure another sale for the Kino version is another vote for them to continue to release silent classics, some of which may not get a release in Europe.
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#2497 Post by JonasEB »

vsski wrote:This is a repeat of their 2 disc DVD version. Who other than region A locked folks will buy this knowing that MoC is putting out their own version, which if it has the same extras as the DVD is vastly superior, not to speak of a probably better encode.
If I wanted this, I'd probably just get the Kino because I can A) get if for a lower price, B) not have to wait two or more weeks for it (or pay a very high shipping price to get it sooner,) or C) I could walk into a store and get it immediately.

Does everything need to be such a completely ridiculous competition?
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#2498 Post by EddieLarkin »

The Kino misses out on the new Kalat commentary, which will almost certainly be worth any extra time or money required to import the Region B version.
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Gregory
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#2499 Post by Gregory »

There may not be any savings getting the Kino in the U.S. (currently $28 Amazon preorder for a $40 SRP release) vs. importing the MoC.
The only thing completely ridiculous about the competition between Kino and MoC's parallel releases is how often MoC thrashes Kino, yet Kino apparently does well enough to keep doing what they do and charging the prices that they charge. I had expected that if MoC just upgraded their existing release, which I already have, then I could just get the Kino blu and keep the MoC DVD for the commentary track and book, but then MoC came through with a second commentary by Kalat, while Kino phones it in for a high retail price (and a front cover worse than most public-domain releases). Kino's release would have to be half the current price before I'd feel like anything less than a mark buying an overpriced but half-assed release. Kino apparently knows they have enough of a captive audience for a film like Nosferatu on Blu that they can raise the list price $10 higher than their 2-disc DVD edition without even trying to really raise the bar on what they're offering. No question in my mind that the MoC is the one to support.
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Re: Kino

#2500 Post by JonasEB »

Discounts vs. shipping cost = same or lower. $29.00 (U.S.) vs. $31.00 (U.K. before shipping - you can add $5 - $10 more after.) That's the core value of the product, the benefit of any other value is in the mind of the individual. I love the Kalat commentary on City Girl but I haven't listened to it in three years and I don't really need to again (nor have I returned to the booklet.) Anyway, just like every other company of this type, the "real price" isn't the MSRP; you don't pay that with Kino just as much as you wouldn't with Criterion or Olive or anyone else.

What I find "ridiculous" is the attitude here that a release like this is completely worthless simply because it doesn't have a commentary track and a booklet. Like it's impossible to be happy with such a thing.

I agree, the cover art isn't great but...who cares? It means nothing.
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